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Old 30 May 2002, 03:50 PM
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As title! - I have one cracked lens, although spot light works. MOT tomorrow - If I put the caps on, do they have to check it?

Any advise appreciated. I've always intended to replace it when it breaks completely as I've always been told they can only be bought whole, in pairs @ 400 notes?

Old 30 May 2002, 03:58 PM
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Let me guess - a dealer told you they could only be bought in pairs, right? The same dealer that rushed you 400 quid plus fitting and VAT for lights that cost around 160 quid?

The lenses are available separately - see http://www.piaa.co.uk for where to get 'em.

If it were me, I'd cover 'em, and for good measure take the fuse out so they really can't test them - say they're just cosmetic? Which, with no fuse, they are
Old 30 May 2002, 04:00 PM
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I just passed an MOT with a bulb out on one of my PIAA's. you don't need them to pass.

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Old 30 May 2002, 04:08 PM
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front fogs / spots are nowt to do with the MOT... thank god, mine are in field somewhere
Old 30 May 2002, 04:12 PM
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Thanks guys, I'll just cover and ignore.

I was fairly sure that cracked lenses are a problem on headlights tail / indicator etc, but didn't think it affected other lighting

I'll let you know how it goes tomorrow.

30K service + Mot <gulp>
Old 30 May 2002, 04:18 PM
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I don't see how the could fail you. It's not a standard item, but a driving lamp add-on. I would think they'd only fail you if it were headlamps, sidelights, tailights, etc..

Isn't the MOT the same for all cars and doesn't vary on the type of car you drive?

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Old 30 May 2002, 04:20 PM
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aah, I was wondering that if they were working they'd be tested. Bit like a spare wheel. Erm. Well, you see the logic
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http://www.motuk.co.uk/welcome.htm

Very useful if you want to know whether they're havin' you on or not

Jen
Old 30 May 2002, 04:56 PM
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Mine passed with a craked spot and some of the glass had fallen out.

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Old 30 May 2002, 05:01 PM
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Jen,

Cool link - after that, I think I'll leave the caps off and just hand it in... No worries

Ta.

Ian.
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According to that site, the following is tested:-

[/b]"What items are examined in the MOT test?[/b]

Lighting Equipment, Stop Lamps, Reflectors, and Direction Indicators -

Front and rear position lamps, rear registration plate lamps, rear fog lamps
Headlamps
Stoplamps
Rear reflectors
Direction indicators and hazard warning devices
Headlamp aim

Steering (including suspension) -

Steering control
Steering system
Power steering
Suspension - general
Front suspension, front wheel bearings and driveshafts
Rear suspension and rear wheel bearings
Shock absorbers

Brakes -

Parking brake lever mechanism
Hand operated brake control valves
Service brake control
Anti-lock braking system
Mechanical brake components
Hydraulic, air and vacuum systems
Brake performance

Tyres -
Tyres
Roadwheels

Seat Belts -

Seatbelts

General Items -

Drivers view of the road
Wipers
Washers
Windscreen
Audible warning (horn)
Exhaust system
Exhaust emissions -petrol & diesel
General condition of vehicle -
vehicle structure
body security
body condition
doors
load security
spare wheel and carrier
seats
Mirrors
Fuel system
Registration plates and VIN details"

Stefan

[Edited by ozzy - 5/30/2002 5:02:35 PM]
Old 30 May 2002, 05:34 PM
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It may also depend upon the MOT centre that is used.

If there is glass missing from the lense, leaving a jagged edge exposed, it could be noted because of the potential danger to a pedestrian in the event of accident (not sure if this could cause a failure).

If it is covered, even with duct tape, so that the jagged edge is covered then it will pass.

Unfortnately you can't stick duct tape over a broken headlamp

Nigel
Old 31 May 2002, 04:16 PM
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MOT passed no problems. Didn't cover lights up and it was at a proper scooby dealer.

They also replaced an oxygen sensor apparently is response to my complaint that it didn't idle properly when it was warmed up and WOW - its like a new car!!.. ssoooo much quicker + more responsive.

Old 31 May 2002, 04:18 PM
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put the covers on
Old 31 May 2002, 04:43 PM
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Put the covers on...?

Bit late, tis already bust :-)

Seriously thou, I do prefer the look with the covers on, but the lights make a <huge> difference when driving at night, specially round the nice otley back roads at the dead of night.

Always have a fear of em falling off as well for some reason...

I'd rather cough up for a new light once in a while and actually be able to use them rather than cover em up to save them.
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Ah, you didn't say you were from Otley, I'm from Bradley, near Skipton, small world innit! The road up past the Sun Inn is fantastic isn't it

Glad your car Passed

RE the pedestrian bit, that only applies to sharp edges caused by corrosion, stupid I know The MOT tranier told us even if the car had a spear sticking out the front it would still pass

Bob
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If you're interested, David Reid Motorsport sell the PIAA lenses separately, much cheaper than Subaru dealers who only seem to be able to sell complete lamp units. I paid just £20 for a slightly used one, IIRC.

A.
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Dealer replaced lense on my MY99 for £75
And yes they were the PIAA upgrage with the dodgy relay wiring under the bonnet.

Martin
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