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Old 21 April 2014, 11:30 AM
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I am going to buy which I believe & is listed as a Subaru impreza wrx sti spec c

Someone said it is a Motorsport version, I'm not all knowledged up on subarus so he knows more than me!

Can anyone help me & tell me before I go buy it as I don't want to be throwing away 10k





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Old 21 April 2014, 11:53 AM
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I think it's missing the brembo brakes mate
Old 21 April 2014, 11:57 AM
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Ok so what is this then? Is it originally a STI? Need to make sure what it is before I go buy it today?
Old 21 April 2014, 12:02 PM
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Some things saying keep well clear,,2002 for 10k imo is too much.

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Old 21 April 2014, 12:04 PM
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Only ever heard of gravel brakes, which guessing dont need to be as big/powerful/heavy..... only a guess though. 2002 car would be bugeye i think?

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Originally Posted by Tyre-fitter
Some things saying keep well clear,,2002 for 10k imo is too much.

Andy.
It does only have 46k miles tho, I need to know what model it is? Is a wrx? Wrx sti spec c?
Old 21 April 2014, 12:05 PM
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i thought bug eyes were in production during 2002???

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Old 21 April 2014, 12:38 PM
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from what i have just read on the net the spec c 16" motorsport edition should come with manual dccd,"throw away interior" ,and the standard subaru 4 pt fronts/2 pot rear brakes, and is apparently the lightest model at 1310kg.not sure if that helps,seems to match up tho except the 2002 bit.
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Originally Posted by ryan51
from what i have just read on the net the spec c 16" motorsport edition should come with manual dccd,"throw away interior" ,and the standard subaru 4 pt fronts/2 pot rear brakes, and is apparently the lightest model at 1310kg.not sure if that helps,seems to match up tho except the 2002 bit.
Thanks mate, think I'm going to avoid it as I can't risk 10k! It was registered in 2002 November if that means anything
Old 21 April 2014, 12:49 PM
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mate im new to the seen aswell ,having come from a stage 3 330bhp astra vxr so im still learning.i have a jdm bug now and that is a 2002 car so thats the bit that does not add up,the blob i think is 2003 onwards?might just be a paperwork mix up.also from what i read the motorsport editions came like this so the rally teams/owners/whoever could make there own modifications to the cars seats/brakes/interior etc.im more then likely wrong but thats what i make of what ive read about them.cheers,ryan.
Old 21 April 2014, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Kieran-STI
Thanks mate, think I'm going to avoid it as I can't risk 10k! It was registered in 2002 November if that means anything
The Blobeye was introduced in November 2002 in Japan.
As mentioned elsewhere, it looks like the 16" version tarted up.
If it's the 17" version it should have ABS & Brembo brakes not the Subaru 4 pot fronts & 2 pot rears.

HTH
Old 21 April 2014, 01:03 PM
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Look on Hurst cars website, he has some lovely stock there.

I also thought spec c interior was black?
Old 21 April 2014, 01:17 PM
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They basically produced 3 variants of Spec C on the MY03 car:-

16 inch Motorsport version - poverty spec and the one to avoid - Justy interior, steel wheels etc
17 inch which had all the goodies like A-DCCD etc - BBS alloys and the black/blue interior.
Limited, which had all the goodies and more - Black interior.

10k, far too much for a 16 inch, wouldnt pay 7k for it as they are not desirable, just avoid it.
The other 2 versions ive owned, both the 17 inch and limited are the ones to look out for, though the limited does have electric windows, mirrors, central locking etc

Tony
Old 21 April 2014, 02:04 PM
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Wrx brakes,and they aint spec c seats.
I would be jogging away from it..
Old 21 April 2014, 02:11 PM
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Nah, too expensive. Get yourself to Hurst Cars if you have £10k to spend.
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Thanks for all your help lads, I've avoided it
Old 21 April 2014, 05:31 PM
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Did you lose much cash on your deposit?
Old 21 April 2014, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
They basically produced 3 variants of Spec C on the MY03 car:-

16 inch Motorsport version - poverty spec and the one to avoid - Justy interior, steel wheels etc
17 inch which had all the goodies like A-DCCD etc - BBS alloys and the black/blue interior.
Limited, which had all the goodies and more - Black interior.

10k, far too much for a 16 inch, wouldnt pay 7k for it as they are not desirable, just avoid it.
The other 2 versions ive owned, both the 17 inch and limited are the ones to look out for, though the limited does have electric windows, mirrors, central locking etc

Tony
Tony when you say 'poverty model' is that how they were seen. Surely the 16" version is just an even lighter variant of an already great car ???
The first RA's were seen a poverty spec cars because they lacked all the goodies and were the cheapest turbo model available, those in the know knew that the RA was the one to have though for pure driving pleasure.
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
Tony when you say 'poverty model' is that how they were seen. Surely the 16" version is just an even lighter variant of an already great car ???
The first RA's were seen a poverty spec cars because they lacked all the goodies and were the cheapest turbo model available, those in the know knew that the RA was the one to have though for pure driving pleasure.
The whole point of the Motorsport version was that it was supplied with a throwaway interior, steel wheels and WRX brakes so that they could be binned and uprated items fitted by the customer / motorsport builder.

My Blobeye Spec C was a Motorsport version and no worse for it, they did a version of the Motorsport model which also had central locking, air conditioning and electric windows all round which is what I had.

Before I owned it one of the previous owners had fitted a blue STi interior, Prodrive PFF7 wheels and AP 330mm 6 pot brakes on the front, the whole design purpose of the model being to throw away / change out the parts that were not fit for the end use.

I think that there seems to be some snobbery about Spec C models, but the Motorsport model was designed for a purpose - in effect to be as light as possible and a blank sheet for alteration.

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Old 21 April 2014, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
Tony when you say 'poverty model' is that how they were seen. Surely the 16" version is just an even lighter variant of an already great car ???
The first RA's were seen a poverty spec cars because they lacked all the goodies and were the cheapest turbo model available, those in the know knew that the RA was the one to have though for pure driving pleasure.
It is the poverty model, there is no snobbery here, the car didnt come with half the equipment that the 17 inch version came with as standard, no central locking (the 17 inch didnt have that either), no A-DCCD, no Sports ABS, no engine and transmission oil coolers, no alloy wheels, no decent interior, no brembo brakes, it was like comparing the KL to the GL standard STI, all the good bits were not there.

Really they are to be avoided because they were designed for one purpose only and that was to be stripped and built into a rally car, hence you got nothing with it (and hence it cost a lot less than the 17 inch version).

Tony
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Well said Tony. Wasn't this similar with the classic WRX RA? Although to the same extreme.
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Originally Posted by Gear Head
Well said Tony. Wasn't this similar with the classic WRX RA? Although to the same extreme.
The wrx ra was the cheapest, it lacked everything, it was the "poverty model" if you like. However, this is what made it a great car and for the purist it was the one to have.
Just because something is cheaper or lacks a few 'toys' it isn't necessarily the poverty model, its just a cheaper varient that attracts a different buyer.
I get what you're saying Tone, I just don't think the phrase 'poverty model' is a fair one.

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How many spec c motorsport models were built from factory??

They could fetch a premium being rare
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The poverty model simple. Tony said so
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No transmission oil cooler? Funny that as mine had one, and as for the STi blue newage interior being desirable?

I think that some people need to check their 'facts' before passing them on as bona fine information.
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Originally Posted by Gear Head
Well said Tony. Wasn't this similar with the classic WRX RA? Although to the same extreme.
Cheeky! They seem to be appreciating nicely .
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What it comes down to is USE and weight I wish now that I had a spec c basic version,for the reason that every comfort that was in my sti has been taking out now,for how I will be using the car,so thinking back I can appreciate why Subaru would make certain models,as they were neck deep in WRC Motorsport.Just look at the cars there producing now.SJ.

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Throw some brakes and a bucket seat in the 'poverty model' and it'll more than likely be a better drivers car than the others.
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
Throw some brakes and a bucket seat in the 'poverty model' and it'll more than likely be a better drivers car than the others.
The fact is that it wont be, the biggest plus side to the 17 inch version is that it has the a-dccd over the 16 inch car (as well as the extra mechanical components), it wont drive (or should i say handle) as well and it will be noticable.
the a-dccd was one of the things that made the spec c, if you have ever used it in anger then you know that you would never be able to do the same with just a dccd box as the auto corrects far quicker than you could with the manual.
But that isnt all, by the time you have thrown money at that car and got it near the spec of a 17 inch, it would have cost you more, its also stupidly over priced at 10k.
If you look at where subaru were coming from with the 16 inch version, grp A and grp N for the 17 inch (though neither were officially used, the GL/KL standard model was for 2003/04) you can see why it had nothing fitted.
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