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Old 05 May 2009, 08:19 PM
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Thumbs up STI 5 Wagon 2.57 sleeper...

Hello All,

I have just run in my new EJ2.57 built by API.

She has a brand new 2009 2.57 motor from Subaru rebuilt by API with forged pistons, steel con rods and a MD321T+ turbo.

Other modifications include a 6 speed conversion and limited slip differentials front & rear (pictures to follow), Simtek ECU with Anti-lag and Launch control (by Bob Rawle), front mount intercooler, oil cooler and a load of other stuff too numerous to mention.

The ultimate sleeper! No one would ever guess!


I thought I’d share some pictures of the rebuild….

Cheers,

Ian.
Old 05 May 2009, 08:28 PM
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Very nice, bet it will fly once mapped in.
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Originally Posted by bioforger
Very nice, bet it will fly once mapped in.
She's booked in for a remap with Bob this Friday!
Old 05 May 2009, 08:45 PM
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How much did the motor set you back?
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Originally Posted by fastboyslim
How much did the motor set you back?
The basic engine cost:

£2,400 API supplied 2.57 2009 block from Subaru with forged pistons, steel con-rods and other stuff you see in the pictures.
£600 API Engine build labour – puts it all together
£550 API Engine fitting labour, includes all fluids & running in map
£250 STI gasket set
£50 Cam belt
£150 Head studs

On top of that you have oil cooler, sump modification & oil catch tank, Simtec ECU, Remap, Intercooler & unexpected costs.

I chose to go with the MD321T+ which meant having 740cc injectors & 300lph fuel pump which of course meant the gearbox needed doing so I decided on a recon 6 speed, recon rear differential (both by API) and then of course ceramic clutch & billet flywheel.

It is all cause & effect. The total runs into 5 figures very quickly.
Old 05 May 2009, 09:42 PM
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That's a fantastic set of pictures there mate - some of the best I've seen of how the scooby engine fits together. Thanks for taking the time
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Sleeper indeed - very nice

I suspect you are aiming for circa 475 / 475? That will be a fairly quick car indeed! Are you planning to put on the 1/4 drag strip or track at all??
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Originally Posted by Westwood2006
The ultimate sleeper! No one would ever guess!
It would be the 'ultimate sleeper' if you put that engine in API's courtesy car...
Old 05 May 2009, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by AndyC_772
That's a fantastic set of pictures there mate - some of the best I've seen of how the scooby engine fits together. Thanks for taking the time
Nice one, I appreciate the comments. Makes it all worth while. Thank you.

These are also interesting pictures (IMHO). They show the difference between Open deck, Closed deck & Semi closed deck blocks.
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Originally Posted by AndyC_772
It would be the 'ultimate sleeper' if you put that engine in API's courtesy car...
LOL. It was a 1.6 NA with a pea shooter exhaust! Gratefully received but hard going none the less!
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Originally Posted by AndyC_772
It would be the 'ultimate sleeper' if you put that engine in API's courtesy car...
If you get the chance try driving Chy's (Pennine Subaru) Forester Courtesy Car! ...Lets say it made a wrx look slow!
Old 05 May 2009, 10:01 PM
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Saw this when i was over there a few weeks ago, Very nice indeed fella, i was talking with David about it.

Great job & a stunning car and build....
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Originally Posted by JP4
Sleeper indeed - very nice

I suspect you are aiming for circa 475 / 475? That will be a fairly quick car indeed! Are you planning to put on the 1/4 drag strip or track at all??
That’s an interesting question! Depends who you speak to.

Dave at API has guaranteed 450 / 485. If it doesn’t make that it will go back for whatever rework is necessary to fix it – free of charge (he has been GOLD so far).

Bob Rawle recons it could be as much as 480 / 500+ so I have everything crossed.

I’ll post the dyno print out here and carry on the story for all who are interested.

Are you kidding? With launch control & anti lag I’ll be straight down the ¼ mile strip. I’m also keen to max it out as well, with the appropriate supporting modifications (oil cooler, FMIC & Rawle map) I’m hoping she will be robust enough to cope.

I chose UK ratios because it is my daily driver (I did 15k miles last year). This means 1st to 4th are identical to the GDM 6 speed (i.e. very close) and 4th to 5th and 5th to 6th are longer.

It’s a mad dash to 4th then it does approx 3500 rpm at 85mph in 6th .
Old 05 May 2009, 10:16 PM
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480/500 will be insane in a classic, baggsy first passenger ride....

Bobs mapping is quality, he,s done my V3 Type-r, can,t fault it...
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Originally Posted by Westwood2006
LOL. It was a 1.6 NA with a pea shooter exhaust! Gratefully received but hard going none the less!
Oi !, That's a 2.0 [ with a pea shooter exhaust ]

If you give customers a courtesy car with all the mods on it - you spend all your time repairing it

In the last year we have had it returned with a repaired / painted front wing and n/s headlight. Nothing mentioned by the user at the time.

AND it came back during October / November 2008 with the OSR door been repaired and painted - again no mention by the user.

Not by Ian Westwood I hasten to add.

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Ian,

Cracking looking car you have there! I'm running the same turbo but using a 2.2. I also have a UK 6 speed and my car is wagon! Everyone knows Wagon's are quicker! I'm not too sure about the figures mine is putting out but would estimate a safe 450/450. I'll rolling road it sometime this summer.

Have fun on the 1/4mile it should fly!!

Cheers

James
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Another great wagon
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very nice wagon, gonna be scary quick too...but you will have to bin the spoilers and scoop to give it sleeper status
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should be a weapon!!!
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Originally Posted by Westwood2006
That’s an interesting question! Depends who you speak to.

Dave at API has guaranteed 450 / 485. If it doesn’t make that it will go back for whatever rework is necessary to fix it – free of charge (he has been GOLD so far).

Bob Rawle recons it could be as much as 480 / 500+ so I have everything crossed.

I’ll post the dyno print out here and carry on the story for all who are interested.

Are you kidding? With launch control & anti lag I’ll be straight down the ¼ mile strip. I’m also keen to max it out as well, with the appropriate supporting modifications (oil cooler, FMIC & Rawle map) I’m hoping she will be robust enough to cope.

I chose UK ratios because it is my daily driver (I did 15k miles last year). This means 1st to 4th are identical to the GDM 6 speed (i.e. very close) and 4th to 5th and 5th to 6th are longer.

It’s a mad dash to 4th then it does approx 3500 rpm at 85mph in 6th .


I'm sure with that Turbo and Bob's mapping you'll get your figures alright. As with the other comments above, for a classic that will be bloody quick!
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Hi Ian,

Good to meet you today.

Trust the mapping went well?

Enjoy the drive home?

All the best
Ross
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Plenty of Ian's with wagons on here
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Looking good mate...enjoy
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Originally Posted by Granby
Plenty of Ian's with wagons on here
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Originally Posted by rossi_p
Hi Ian,

Good to meet you today.

Trust the mapping went well?

Enjoy the drive home?

All the best
Ross
Good to meet you as well and thanks again for the full English!

Well, if I had any thoughts along the lines of “this is quick” before they just evaporated and have been replaced with thoughts along the lines of “Fuuuuuuuuck this really feels quick now…”

If anyone else is considering this conversion. Just go for it. It is completely mental, sounds great and picks its feet up in just about any gear and speed (within reason) without being too frightening.

Don’t get me wrong… it scares me but it is actually very easy to drive (touches wood). Very docile burbling around to the shops as well.

Great job. Hats off to Bob & Dave. Thanks.

Now if you’ll excuse me I’m going for a drive!!
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excellent, glad you like it, I am hoping for something similar when mine gets mapped although I dont have a wagon just a boring old V4 Sti saloon
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Just posted some more pictures.

Unfortunately I don’t have any of my gearbox being rebuilt with the modified syncro-rings but there are some general shots of the install and the building where Dave does all his gearbox work.
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Originally Posted by Westwood2006
Good to meet you as well and thanks again for the full English!

Well, if I had any thoughts along the lines of “this is quick” before they just evaporated and have been replaced with thoughts along the lines of “Fuuuuuuuuck this really feels quick now…”
Pleasure.

I did say..

Apologies I didn't get the chance to take you for a spin in mine, I didn't have the best of days .

Enjoy the car!
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Some great pictures there especially this one

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