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Old Jul 13, 2003 | 12:08 AM
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God I am bored of forever "doint" something for the car, but not actually having anything good on the car as a result (just more shiney things ans boxes in garage).

I think we need a support network, "Wallis anonymous" or something.

Would be much easier without having to put the car back together at the end of each day/weekend. Saves on working till 3am .

Is there an end in sight?

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Old Jul 13, 2003 | 11:14 AM
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I assume you are still using your car as a sole means of transport ???
If so, then you really need a second car. I worked on my cars for years, same scenario...anything I was doing had to be finished in order to have the car for work etc.
I finally bought a scrapper for work, so I wouldnt be under pressure when modifying my car. ( first scrapper was a Fiat Uno 55, and it was actually quite good...prob one of the best £400 I spent around that time. My work car did get more expensive over the years, and I got stung. The more they cost, the more they can cost to repair, and depreciate. So Im back to a relatively cheap Volvo diesel state. Handy for carrying bits and bobs, and cheap to run. Actually quite nice to drive too. )

If this isnt the case, and you are just fed up...At least nothing will break or blow up when you arent driving it. Saves a fortune on petrol too, and tyres etc.

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Old Jul 13, 2003 | 04:09 PM
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I know the feeling - my ej25 project started in January, I naively thought everything would be ready around Easter

Only now the balancing of all the bits is happening..... A definite money pit...but guess (hope!) it'll be worth it

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Old Jul 15, 2003 | 07:02 PM
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here comes another "tell me about it."

Thankfully though, I have full use of a sport wagon.

Life's a bitch when you live less than 30 secs walk from the works factory door.

I am at the moment, dreaming of the day when the scoob is FINALLY back on the road after 4 months of growing a dust farm on the roof.
Some days I wonder why I even started, but that's me, just cant leave anything alone. "have to fiddle".
I really hope she holds together till at least the winter as I just want to DRIVE the ******* thing now.

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Old Jul 15, 2003 | 08:41 PM
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At one time, my car was off the road for about 2 1/2 years. I simply didnt have the money or interest to bother.
But i got it done eventually
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Old Jul 15, 2003 | 09:15 PM
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Good thing for me, is my ej20 is still in rude health and my strengthened gearbox is nearly done. At least it means I can see just how much torque can be provided with OE engine

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Old Jul 16, 2003 | 12:43 AM
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From: Leeds - It was 562.4bhp@28psi on Optimax, How much closer to 600 with race fuel and a bigger turbo?
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Tell me about It..

its having friends with scoobs and going out in them that makes me carry on.. and people like paul that email me my calendar / schedule each week so I know how much time I have allocated to everything..

Just remember its worth it in the end.. (the bills, debt etc and all that)

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Old Jul 16, 2003 | 01:16 AM
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Very worthwhile. I dont regret spending a single penny ( if only it was a penny ), or doing any of the work ( spending many many very late nights, until daylight in a lot of cases ) I have done on my cars. Ive hated it, and enjoyed it, but can usually look back and think it was all worth it.
Some people are just that way inclined, were they will continue, even if it does seem totally crazy. Its not crazy, its all good fun. There are a lot worse things you could do with your time and money.

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Old Jul 16, 2003 | 02:23 AM
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I estimated about 5 months,
and into my second year of project P.

What a joker
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Old Jul 17, 2003 | 10:36 PM
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I know exactly how you guys feel.

My Scooby started off as a cheap damaged repairable, ( like David ) that I was going to fix, use for 6 months and sell for a huge profit. I paid just over 8k for it and at the time similar WRX's were selling for 14k. It only had very light front end damage, bumper, 1 headlight foglight and indicator, and a set of front panels were all that were needed to fix it.

At the time I was working as a fitter in a bodyshop and the panel beater and myself got a little carried away. He decided to do all the parking dents and I decided to delock the boot, weld up the aerial hole in the rear quarter panel and remove the foglight that someone had bodged into the rear bumper. At this point nearly the whole car needed painting apart from the roof

Well it seemed a shame to respray it all the same dull navy blue that it originaly was, a quick word with my boss and also the local paint rep and a deal was struck to use it as a demostrator for the company. A month of looking through colour charts and the colour was finaly decided, PURPLE, was the reaction when I initialy showed people the colour and shade I had chosen, remeber this was back in 1999 before anyone else had even thought of changing the colour of Scooby, for road use anyway.

At 1 stage the only parts left on my Scooby was the basic running gear and dash board, a bit scary as I had never worked on a Scooby before. While it was all stripped down I fully sound deadend the inside and boot including the roof, and fitted a beesting aerial.

By the time the Scooby was all painted and back together it had taken 4 months, at this point I still haven't driven or even been in a Scooby let alone my own.




I will carry the story on soon.

Colin.
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Old Jul 27, 2003 | 09:48 PM
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...but just think of the fantastic cars you'll all have at the end guys

Colin - interesting...looking forward to the next installment! (btw, any chance I can stick this on the Hantsscoobies website? )
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Old Aug 7, 2003 | 12:54 AM
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Am suffering this at the moment. Big pile of bits in the front porch...glorious sunshine...but can't get the time off work.
Booked tuesday off...hoping to do a LOT in one day.
Maybe get wednesday off too?

But you get out there...you stare at the pile of bits that WAS your car....and you wonder what's on telly.

Oh well...onwards and upwards....got bits to try and fabricate....see you guys soon.
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Old Aug 7, 2003 | 10:24 AM
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I am suffering, but after TOTB I realised that it should be worth it all in the end, but that I shouldn't expect to do it all in one go.

The key I have found,is to break the project up into managable tasks, and plan each task time and money wise. When you have a realistic goal it's doesn't seem like a long pointless slog, as you get success at the end. This month I will be sorting the fuel system, battery relocation and front end ducting, more than enough for a month.

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Old Aug 7, 2003 | 11:08 AM
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This month I'll mostly be waiting for the b*stard balancer to return from holidays
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Old Aug 9, 2003 | 10:46 PM
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Uh huh..been busy today: Tasks for this week (month?) are:
Turbo change
Exhaust change
Fit ABS Sensors and Headunit
Fit new wheels

Then take up to ScoobySport and:
Renew MoT

All while trying to sort friends cars too
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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 07:22 PM
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My trouble now is, I don't just want the 2.5 engine in my car, I want it to be the fastest! That isn't going to happen with my lardo-max legacy estate either, especially with my aircon, which I love.

Hmmm, how about I buy a blown RA impreza from japan, strip the hell out of it and put the complete drivetrain in it when it's perfected...

Hey wait, didn't I just make the project infinitely longer?

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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 09:14 PM
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RA shells are supposed to be lighter ..... good plataform to start with

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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 10:56 PM
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lol.
Here's me thinking back in May (when the when the tax was up at the end of...) If I tax it, it'll spur me on to get it finished quicker... Hmm what month are we in now ???

Now the insurance is out on the 18th.
How the hell am I going to explain that one.
Hey! least the renewal notice has gone down £100 quid.... till I tell em what i've been doing to it for the past 5 months <crys into lap>

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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 11:08 AM
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Why not just aim to be the fastest Legacy, instead of the fastest car?

More achieveable.

And besides, legacy's are waaay better than imprezas cos nobody knows what they are. Imagine getting it finished and dragging alongside a Porsche Turbo...and the look on his face when he get's beaten by a highly dull looking estate car!

That's what is spurring me on, anyway (not that mine will ever be anywhere near as quick as yours, Paul)

You know it makes sense.


As for renewing insurance...yep..just been there.
I've noticed, though, that when I don't put petrol in the car (cos it's broken) I have a HECK of a lot more money to buy bits with. Weird that.
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 12:06 PM
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It would be a sleeper, that's for sure, and that's one of the things that keeps me going, that image of out dragging a {insert your supercar here) off the lights or on a trackday (after some more chassis work I might add).

I will get there in the end.

Seriously though, does anyone know if the awd system in the Justy is of a similar size to the one in the Impreza? Not that I would be thinking of a 550hp Subaru Justy...

Paul
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 12:11 PM
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Paul, you have my sympathies. I've been told by Nic that I have to finish the house before I can do any more to the car. At least I'll be over 25 when I have to insure the car with a pile of mods...

(Worryingly, I think she included servicing in that statement too )

Anyone up for a "DIY central heating (except for the CORGI bits... )" thread. You'll have to like pictures of copper pipe
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 02:02 PM
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From: Leeds - It was 562.4bhp@28psi on Optimax, How much closer to 600 with race fuel and a bigger turbo?
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paul.. it wont go in easily.. Ive looked.. but it may be phase 2..

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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 07:46 PM
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550hp Subaru Justy
Now that would be class
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 08:04 PM
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Old Aug 13, 2003 | 12:46 AM
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Justy...silly...do it (can I help?)


Legacy...Chassis work? Now this could be interesting, as I don;t feel it is that far off the impreza other than in weight......(though mine is a saloon with a big empty boot).

Is there something you know that I don't? (probably)


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Old Aug 13, 2003 | 12:49 PM
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Chassis work as in strut braces, bushes, ARBS, rear triangulated strut brace etc etc.

The estate has lower stiffness due to the the open rear. At least on the impreza wagon there is a tall lip around the back of the boot area to provide some stiffness.

If it were caged though, it wouldn't be an issue.

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Old Aug 14, 2003 | 07:36 AM
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Impreza wagon still isn't that stiff; parking with one rear wheel on a curb on mine leaves the other rear wheel off the ground (ARB works ). Open/closing tailgate demonstrates the flex

I'm not sure a full cage would cure this sufficiently? For sure I'm scared by the prospect (costs) of getting it seam welded....

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Old Aug 14, 2003 | 05:04 PM
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Not really sure why they chose the name "seam welded" as it is not !
It's stitch welded.

You could argue that it is because they weld the seams of the car I suppose.

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Old Aug 15, 2003 | 02:05 PM
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Does that make it less expensive/complicated then?
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Old Aug 15, 2003 | 04:17 PM
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no just easier.. weld a few inches miss a few..

Still need to clean it all up really..

Wouldnt take too long to do.. just would be a PITA..

especially as the car should be mounted to a jig.. or similar..

David
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