Folding Mirrors Project - Autoelectrician Needed!
22 February 2003, 04:00 PM
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Or somebody who knows what they are doing - 'cos I don't!
There are a number of people on SN wanting to know how to fit folding mirrors to their UK/Euro car. I have the bits, but not the technical ability to follow the wires through.
I have had a look and as far as I am aware, it is a matter of finding a wire on the loom. Wires/connectors exist at the switch end, but not the mirror end...
So, this is a project that I think should be started & documented & if custom parts are needed, then someone might make a few quid..
There are a number of people on SN wanting to know how to fit folding mirrors to their UK/Euro car. I have the bits, but not the technical ability to follow the wires through.
I have had a look and as far as I am aware, it is a matter of finding a wire on the loom. Wires/connectors exist at the switch end, but not the mirror end...
So, this is a project that I think should be started & documented & if custom parts are needed, then someone might make a few quid..
22 February 2003, 08:54 PM
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A friend is getting a new door for for his WRX. I'll ask if I can have a look at the old one next time I see him, and compare it to what is in my UK door when I fit my new speakers.
Look out for a Yellow/White Mini Cooper...
23 February 2003, 08:52 PM
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I've confirmed that the mirrors will fit & the switch does.
The mirrors as is work with the new switch.
There is an additional plug existing that fits into the foldy switch (shape & all)
There are no additional wires @ the door end - nor can I find any wires the same colour.
It is, however, nearly 2 years since I had a play, so need to refresh exactly.
The mirrors as is work with the new switch.
There is an additional plug existing that fits into the foldy switch (shape & all)
There are no additional wires @ the door end - nor can I find any wires the same colour.
It is, however, nearly 2 years since I had a play, so need to refresh exactly.
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24 February 2003, 05:12 PM
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Here I am, Puff I can give you the wiring diagrams from a P1's wiring to the mirrors. Maybe we can get somewhere from there. I really need to see the wiring from an STI import that has the correct wiring in there as default...
24 February 2003, 05:16 PM
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It's 'cos of Mickle I whacked this post up!!
Thinking that someone here might be able to offer some useful assistance
Should've known better
I did a search for the number of people interested and as there were quite a few, thought it might be quite a useful project to undertake & document...
Thinking that someone here might be able to offer some useful assistance
Should've known better I did a search for the number of people interested and as there were quite a few, thought it might be quite a useful project to undertake & document...
24 February 2003, 07:19 PM
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Ill help you if you want..
Mail me off board with any diagrams you have...
I have access to a car with folding mirrors that I can check.
David
Mail me off board with any diagrams you have...
I have access to a car with folding mirrors that I can check.
David
25 February 2003, 09:59 AM
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OK
Under the mirror control switch we have the following
A block connector with a number of wires in it, a number of spaces being empty. From the top & North to South there are two spare points on the RHS. These correspond to 2 mail lugs on the Mirror Folding Switch which I have got. So we need 2 wires, I imagine one will retract the mirror & the other put it out again. The switch is in the form of a rocker, with a neutral position. Forward - out, reverse - in.
There is also a connector that is not attached to anything. It has a black wire with silver rings every inch & a brown wire with a blue seam, also with silver rings. It won't connect to anything on the switch. Wonder what thats for?
Report on the mirror end later...
Under the mirror control switch we have the following
A block connector with a number of wires in it, a number of spaces being empty. From the top & North to South there are two spare points on the RHS. These correspond to 2 mail lugs on the Mirror Folding Switch which I have got. So we need 2 wires, I imagine one will retract the mirror & the other put it out again. The switch is in the form of a rocker, with a neutral position. Forward - out, reverse - in.
There is also a connector that is not attached to anything. It has a black wire with silver rings every inch & a brown wire with a blue seam, also with silver rings. It won't connect to anything on the switch. Wonder what thats for?
Report on the mirror end later...
25 February 2003, 08:16 PM
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Here's my input, will email it as well 
Left Hand Mirror
Switch
Forgot to say this is off of a P1 without the folding mirrors (might have wiring already?) but hopefully if we can get a scope of cars we'll see a solution
[Edited by Mickle - 2/25/2003 11:09:54 PM]
[Edited by Mickle - 2/25/2003 11:11:18 PM]
Left Hand Mirror
Switch
Forgot to say this is off of a P1 without the folding mirrors (might have wiring already?) but hopefully if we can get a scope of cars we'll see a solution
[Edited by Mickle - 2/25/2003 11:09:54 PM]
[Edited by Mickle - 2/25/2003 11:11:18 PM]
25 February 2003, 09:22 PM
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Hmmm..
Colour city!
Connectors for LHS mirror & RHS mirror for mine (MY97 STi?) are both identical with the options for 6 pins on 2 rows. On both mirors, 5 of the available positions are taken in this format (from on top)
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- - -
LHM
Pink / Purple
Yellow & Blue / White / Light Green
RHM
Brown / Silver
Green & Black / Blue (White Stripe) / Red (Blue Stripe)
Note that in the bottom LHS of each connector 2 wires are going in, so Yellow wire / Blue wire on LHM & Green wire / Black wire on RHM
[Edited by Puff The Magic Wagon! - 2/25/2003 9:24:50 PM]
Colour city!
Connectors for LHS mirror & RHS mirror for mine (MY97 STi?) are both identical with the options for 6 pins on 2 rows. On both mirors, 5 of the available positions are taken in this format (from on top)
- -
- - -
LHM
Pink / Purple
Yellow & Blue / White / Light Green
RHM
Brown / Silver
Green & Black / Blue (White Stripe) / Red (Blue Stripe)
Note that in the bottom LHS of each connector 2 wires are going in, so Yellow wire / Blue wire on LHM & Green wire / Black wire on RHM
[Edited by Puff The Magic Wagon! - 2/25/2003 9:24:50 PM]
26 February 2003, 09:48 AM
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I've had a look at my P1 & can firm Mickle's diagram. It is the black/white & yellow wire connectors which are not used by the UK switch.
I've just purchased a STi5 switch and this has two extra pins for connecting to the black/white & yellow wires.
Puff - comparing ur UK mirrors to the folding ones are there any pins which are unused on the UK ones?
I've just purchased a STi5 switch and this has two extra pins for connecting to the black/white & yellow wires.
Puff - comparing ur UK mirrors to the folding ones are there any pins which are unused on the UK ones?
10 March 2003, 09:22 AM
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There is a control switch, integrated into the mirror ajustment switch on cars that were fitted with heated mirrors. You should not permanently wire any heater element as it will eventually cause an overload, but it is possible to wire either a separate switch, source the crrect switch from a breaker, or alternatively connected them to the heated rear screen switch.
10 March 2003, 09:35 AM
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As a general rule, wires do not change colour throughout the loom unless they have passed through either a switch or a mechanism. Therefore if your block connector has a wire coming out of it, the chances are that the same colour wire goes in the other side, all you need to do is find the source of that colour within the main loom.
If you have access to a car with the folding mirrors, trace the wiring from the mirror, through the switch, all the way back to the fusebox. Then within your own car start at the same point on the fusebox, you will probably find that the first part of the wiring is place due to the modular construction of modern looms, trace the wire to its termination & continue from there.
I am based in the North-West, If you are local I am more than happy to investigate further for you, It is a lot easier to do than explain
If you have access to a car with the folding mirrors, trace the wiring from the mirror, through the switch, all the way back to the fusebox. Then within your own car start at the same point on the fusebox, you will probably find that the first part of the wiring is place due to the modular construction of modern looms, trace the wire to its termination & continue from there.
I am based in the North-West, If you are local I am more than happy to investigate further for you, It is a lot easier to do than explain