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Project Billy Sexcrime - **warning** features drag race talk & STI bashing.
How fast can a Newage accelerate with the stock internals and 5 speed???
State of tune so far →
■ Bought in 2008 as a 2003 WRX PPP 187.3atw (240/236 @0.86BAR)
■ Mapped to 218.4atw (280/273 @1.02BAR) by TRL's Matt on AET's dyno
■ Mapped to 230.0atw (295/265 @1.00BAR) by PVD Power/Tweaks Developments
■ Booked a well respected mapper at this point but he forgot
■ Mapped to 260.5atw (332.6/307 @1.35BAR) by Pat Herborn at Scoobyclinic - 260bhp per ton!
Mod list to date →
Ecutek remap by Pat Herborn (dyno & road)
STI 550 injectors
STI intercooler
TD05 16g Turbo
Blitz Nur spec backbox
Decat centre section
Decat DEI wrapped ported up-pipe
Cobra Sport 3" Race cat downpipe
Walbro 255l Fuel pump
NGK PFR7B plugs
JR Performance panel filter
Perrin Turbo intake hose
STI intercooler hose
Competition Clutch stage 2 clutch
Competition Clutch lightweight flywheel
Silicone Turbo/Actuator vac hoses
5w40 Millers CFS Nanodrive oil
75-90 Millers CRX NT diff oil
75-90 Millers CRX NT gearbox oil
Subaru Black oil filter
Redline Water Wetter
GFB adjustable bov
Perrin Lightweight crank pulley
Short shift gear lever
Motordrive 5kg FIA custom racing seats
Aircon removed
Odyssey PC680 7kg lightweight battery
Alternator cover removed
Airbox resonator and intake removed
Front bumper bar removed
Horseshoe brace removed
Bonnet sound-proofing removed
Boot carpet/jack & tools/jack bracket/spare wheel & clamp removed
Rear seat sound proofing removed
Boot sound deadening half removed*
Fog lights and holding brackets removed
Boot light bracket removed
Roof handle & brackets removed
Driver foot rest removed
Roof strengthening plates removed
Radiator side brackets removed
Injector brackets removed
Car stereo & holding brackets removed
Front and rear speakers removed
Ashtray lid and lighter removed
Carpets removed
Rooflining removed
Rear seatbelt cover removed
Polycarbonate battery clamp
Carbon fiber pillar covers
STI boot spoiler
STI bonnet scoop
STI scoop undertray
STI strut brace
STI side skirts
17" Rota GRA lightweight alloys
Nankang 215 45 R 17 91W Sportnex NS-2R Semi Slick Tyres
TPI lightweight tuner nuts
Pedders suspension
Superpro drop links
Whiteline 22mm rear anti-roll bar
SWRD grooved disks
Ferodo DS2500 pads
WRX PRO calipers
Goodridge Brake hoses
5.1 Motul Brake Fluid
3 of my 4 quickest runs:
Big thanks to KG Tuning (The Wife ) for fixing/modding the car regardless of the time or weather!
Ultimate goal is to get into the 11's or hit 0-60mph in 3.5 secs with less than 335bhp/310lbft.
State of tune so far →
■ Bought in 2008 as a 2003 WRX PPP 187.3atw (240/236 @0.86BAR)
■ Mapped to 218.4atw (280/273 @1.02BAR) by TRL's Matt on AET's dyno
■ Mapped to 230.0atw (295/265 @1.00BAR) by PVD Power/Tweaks Developments
■ Booked a well respected mapper at this point but he forgot
■ Mapped to 260.5atw (332.6/307 @1.35BAR) by Pat Herborn at Scoobyclinic - 260bhp per ton!
Mod list to date →
Ecutek remap by Pat Herborn (dyno & road)
STI 550 injectors
STI intercooler
TD05 16g Turbo
Blitz Nur spec backbox
Decat centre section
Decat DEI wrapped ported up-pipe
Cobra Sport 3" Race cat downpipe
Walbro 255l Fuel pump
NGK PFR7B plugs
JR Performance panel filter
Perrin Turbo intake hose
STI intercooler hose
Competition Clutch stage 2 clutch
Competition Clutch lightweight flywheel
Silicone Turbo/Actuator vac hoses
5w40 Millers CFS Nanodrive oil
75-90 Millers CRX NT diff oil
75-90 Millers CRX NT gearbox oil
Subaru Black oil filter
Redline Water Wetter
GFB adjustable bov
Perrin Lightweight crank pulley
Short shift gear lever
Motordrive 5kg FIA custom racing seats
Aircon removed
Odyssey PC680 7kg lightweight battery
Alternator cover removed
Airbox resonator and intake removed
Front bumper bar removed
Horseshoe brace removed
Bonnet sound-proofing removed
Boot carpet/jack & tools/jack bracket/spare wheel & clamp removed
Rear seat sound proofing removed
Boot sound deadening half removed*
Fog lights and holding brackets removed
Boot light bracket removed
Roof handle & brackets removed
Driver foot rest removed
Roof strengthening plates removed
Radiator side brackets removed
Injector brackets removed
Car stereo & holding brackets removed
Front and rear speakers removed
Ashtray lid and lighter removed
Carpets removed
Rooflining removed
Rear seatbelt cover removed
Polycarbonate battery clamp
Carbon fiber pillar covers
STI boot spoiler
STI bonnet scoop
STI scoop undertray
STI strut brace
STI side skirts
17" Rota GRA lightweight alloys
Nankang 215 45 R 17 91W Sportnex NS-2R Semi Slick Tyres
TPI lightweight tuner nuts
Pedders suspension
Superpro drop links
Whiteline 22mm rear anti-roll bar
SWRD grooved disks
Ferodo DS2500 pads
WRX PRO calipers
Goodridge Brake hoses
5.1 Motul Brake Fluid
3 of my 4 quickest runs:
Big thanks to KG Tuning (The Wife ) for fixing/modding the car regardless of the time or weather!
Ultimate goal is to get into the 11's or hit 0-60mph in 3.5 secs with less than 335bhp/310lbft.
Last edited by RS_Matt; 17 June 2021 at 09:27 PM.
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Before the last map the car got timed at York raceway into a strong head wind at 13.3 with a timed 0-60 of 4.5 secs.
I'd think with 333bhp and a massive step up in torque I should be circa 12.8 and 0-60 in 4.1 secs.
As I'm planning zero engine mods from now on there will be some significant weight saving plans for the car coming up. I'm going to push for 1000kg but over many years.
Carbon fibre
Polycarbonate
Parasitic improvements
Further rotational mass tweaks.
Lighter parts
Good old dremel
Last edited by RS_Matt; 01 March 2016 at 03:02 PM.
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bob from aztec has done 11.7 with 340bhp but his gearchanges were absolutely brutal on a ppg 5 speed
slower run from bob
Drag racing- Subaru Impreza vs Subaru Impreza 12.03s @114mph - YouTube
slower run from bob
Drag racing- Subaru Impreza vs Subaru Impreza 12.03s @114mph - YouTube
I wonder if Bob holds the record for a sub 350bhp "real-world" Subaru
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You can't apply simple proportioning such as 10bhp=0.1sec to speed, for one thing doesn't drag (impedance not the sport) square with speed?
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A rule of thumb I always went by in drag racing, if you want to go twice as quick you need eight times the power. I know that's way beyond what you are suggesting, but we're all travelling along that road when we try to go faster.
You can't apply simple proportioning such as 10bhp=0.1sec to speed, for one thing doesn't drag (impedance not the sport) square with speed?
You can't apply simple proportioning such as 10bhp=0.1sec to speed, for one thing doesn't drag (impedance not the sport) square with speed?
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another factor is with the extra power needed and the extreme launch that will be required the 5 speed box won't cope.
also you have gone through some extreme weight loss on the car then plonked a heavy sti spoiler, skirts and bonnet scoop on a wrx, id say the spoiler weighs the samne if not more than the parts you have removed.
trying to make it look like an sti won't make it go like one
also you have gone through some extreme weight loss on the car then plonked a heavy sti spoiler, skirts and bonnet scoop on a wrx, id say the spoiler weighs the samne if not more than the parts you have removed.
trying to make it look like an sti won't make it go like one
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Even the STI skirts were lighter than the OE WRX items. TBH though I don't want to cross the line looking like a Vectra.
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most of your threads are utter crap but I think this one is sort of serious.
to get anywhere near your target time of ten seconds requires far more bhp and far less weight.
also a much stronger drive train so all in all a lot of money.
there are hundreds if not thousands of lightly tuned imprezas like yours around and none would get near an 11 second run never mind 10.
to get anywhere near your target time of ten seconds requires far more bhp and far less weight.
also a much stronger drive train so all in all a lot of money.
there are hundreds if not thousands of lightly tuned imprezas like yours around and none would get near an 11 second run never mind 10.
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I think when I said "get into the 12's then ultimately 11's" I meant scraping 11.9
But hey, if you're offering sponsorship!
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below 12 is an awesome time.
the gtr at the end ran about that.
i wasnt running today but got 12.8 in june [2012]
the gtr at the end ran about that.
i wasnt running today but got 12.8 in june [2012]
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come matt a serious thread for a change...
its about power to weight ratio mostly
you have a relatively low powered car and in the grand scheme of things the car hasn't had any significant weight reduction.
how on earth do you propose to get into the 11 second time bracket without adding significantly more power which as you are technically around the limit of wrx internals and gearbox is going to cost several thousands or drastically reduce weight which is going to render the car useless as an everyday car as its along the lines of perspex windows etc.
its about power to weight ratio mostly
you have a relatively low powered car and in the grand scheme of things the car hasn't had any significant weight reduction.
how on earth do you propose to get into the 11 second time bracket without adding significantly more power which as you are technically around the limit of wrx internals and gearbox is going to cost several thousands or drastically reduce weight which is going to render the car useless as an everyday car as its along the lines of perspex windows etc.
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You're going to need more power, and a more practice Matt, to even get to low 12's. You'll need a hell of a lot more power to get into the sub 11s bracket. SteveBT's is over 600 and his runs high 10s quarters. His is full weight though.
Yours is heavier than mine, and similar power. I'd assume more lb/ft than mine. If you aren't in the 12's now then you'll have to try a different approach
Holding the revs at 4K and slipping the clutch whilst releasing the handbrake isn't going to make you quick, I'm afraid. You need to drive it harder.
6k rpm, blipping the throttle on the startline, so the turbo is actually doing something, and dump the clutch. Both Andy Forrest and Steven Darley advised me to blip the throttle, and they know a thing or two about drag racing.
Go hard or go home!
5K launch
6K launch
Yours is heavier than mine, and similar power. I'd assume more lb/ft than mine. If you aren't in the 12's now then you'll have to try a different approach
Holding the revs at 4K and slipping the clutch whilst releasing the handbrake isn't going to make you quick, I'm afraid. You need to drive it harder.
6k rpm, blipping the throttle on the startline, so the turbo is actually doing something, and dump the clutch. Both Andy Forrest and Steven Darley advised me to blip the throttle, and they know a thing or two about drag racing.
Go hard or go home!
5K launch
6K launch
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You're going to need more power, and a more practice Matt, to even get to low 12's. You'll need a hell of a lot more power to get into the sub 11s bracket. SteveBT's is over 600 and his runs high 10s quarters. His is full weight though.
Yours is heavier than mine, and similar power. I'd assume more lb/ft than mine. If you aren't in the 12's now then you'll have to try a different approach
Holding the revs at 4K and slipping the clutch whilst releasing the handbrake isn't going to make you quick, I'm afraid. You need to drive it harder.
6k rpm, blipping the throttle on the startline, so the turbo is actually doing something, and dump the clutch. Both Andy Forrest and Steven Darley advised me to blip the throttle, and they know a thing or two about drag racing.
Go hard or go home!
5K launch
330bhp WRX V 440bhp Type R - YouTube
6K launch
Bye_Bye_Beattie's_STI.MOV - YouTube
Yours is heavier than mine, and similar power. I'd assume more lb/ft than mine. If you aren't in the 12's now then you'll have to try a different approach
Holding the revs at 4K and slipping the clutch whilst releasing the handbrake isn't going to make you quick, I'm afraid. You need to drive it harder.
6k rpm, blipping the throttle on the startline, so the turbo is actually doing something, and dump the clutch. Both Andy Forrest and Steven Darley advised me to blip the throttle, and they know a thing or two about drag racing.
Go hard or go home!
5K launch
330bhp WRX V 440bhp Type R - YouTube
6K launch
Bye_Bye_Beattie's_STI.MOV - YouTube
My starts are ok (very happy with 0-60 in 4.5 secs with 299bhp and very low torque at the time) it was the last 1/8 that was holding me back, one of the slips told me I was 79mph at 1/8 and 88mph at 1/4!
Hopefully now I have a restrictor pill fitted and more power/boost that very long 3rd can start propelling me.
The car feels so much quicker now after Scoobyclinic cured a few issues and mapped it. The next run should be very interesting.
Not sure what the car weighs at the moment, I really need to visit a weighbridge. I'd guess around 1280-1300kg. Car undertook a professional weight saving session at a specialist years ago, the pile of removed parts was substantial, I recorded as many parts as possible, not sure what to list a lot of them as though.
They were going to remove all the aircon ancillaries from behind the dash but we ran out of time, I will rebook though at some stage.
Weight wise I'm probably just under 1300kg but still got a long way to go. I won't be using perspex for anything that's for sure.
Last edited by RS_Matt; 09 October 2014 at 08:41 PM.
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Good luck with that... The quality of the strip makes a big difference you stand your best channce at shakey or pod. Anywhere else is virtually impossible.
Mine does a 1/4 in low 11s and I will be looking for a 10 on saturday if the weather holds up on a sub standard strip. But that is a FULLY stripped classic with 500+hp. It has no door cards interior, sound deadening, spoilers etc!
So you are very keen to get something into the 11s....
Mine does a 1/4 in low 11s and I will be looking for a 10 on saturday if the weather holds up on a sub standard strip. But that is a FULLY stripped classic with 500+hp. It has no door cards interior, sound deadening, spoilers etc!
So you are very keen to get something into the 11s....
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Good luck with that... The quality of the strip makes a big difference you stand your best channce at shakey or pod. Anywhere else is virtually impossible.
Mine does a 1/4 in low 11s and I will be looking for a 10 on saturday if the weather holds up on a sub standard strip. But that is a FULLY stripped classic with 500+hp. It has no door cards interior, sound deadening, spoilers etc!
So you are very keen to get something into the 11s....
Mine does a 1/4 in low 11s and I will be looking for a 10 on saturday if the weather holds up on a sub standard strip. But that is a FULLY stripped classic with 500+hp. It has no door cards interior, sound deadening, spoilers etc!
So you are very keen to get something into the 11s....
My car is getting a bit skittish in the wet in a straight line, 500+ must be nigh on unusable on a greasy road? Would it snake when boost comes in?
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Yep pretty much, even part throttle and you can feel the back end moving around! Last time it was mapped it pulled 535hp on the meth map and in slightly damp conditions it would spin all 4 wheels up in 4th gear....
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Bollocks!
People think drag racing is a piece of ****, in essence it is or should be, it's a lot harder than they think.
I did my first ever drag race at the Pod on 8th Oct 2006, I did a 14.something. I'd only had it a year, and it's a hell of a long way to drive to potentially kill your car.
2 years later, possibly one of the runs in the videos above, I did my 12.4 Only things that had been changed in that time was the Nur Spec and FMIC fitted. I just got harder on the launches and gear changes.
Gearbox, fresh recon from Alyn @ AS Performance, and clutch had only been in the car 2 days in those videos.
People think drag racing is a piece of ****, in essence it is or should be, it's a lot harder than they think.
I did my first ever drag race at the Pod on 8th Oct 2006, I did a 14.something. I'd only had it a year, and it's a hell of a long way to drive to potentially kill your car.
2 years later, possibly one of the runs in the videos above, I did my 12.4 Only things that had been changed in that time was the Nur Spec and FMIC fitted. I just got harder on the launches and gear changes.
Gearbox, fresh recon from Alyn @ AS Performance, and clutch had only been in the car 2 days in those videos.
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