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Fudgey 21 October 2013 01:21 PM

fitting HID's to a 2001 UK300?
 
is it as easy as the plug and play kits you can get?
someone said its not so simple with the hella units fitted

any info appreciated.

i need some lights that, err, light up the road lol

cheers!

MrNoisy 21 October 2013 01:33 PM

Easy - read my guide in the how to archive mate

urban 21 October 2013 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by Fudgey (Post 11242076)
is it as easy as the plug and play kits you can get?
someone said its not so simple with the hella units fitted

any info appreciated.

i need some lights that, err, light up the road lol

cheers!

You know that after market HID kits are not legal, unless you have self levelling and headlamp washers.

alcazar 21 October 2013 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by urban (Post 11242160)
You know that after market HID kits are not legal, unless you have self levelling and headlamp washers.

Sorry, but that's a myth.

The law as it stands states that "self levelling and headlamp washers, IF FITTED, MUST WORK".
That's all.

But what DOES make aftermarket kits illegal is that the bulbs aren't compatible with the lenses/reflectors, and it can easily be ascertained by checking for the E-Mark.

Fudgey: I'm not up on the Hella units fitted to those cars. Do they have separate dip and main beam?
if so, you'd need TWO kits, or just do the dip and see how you get on with those.

Some tips:

DO buy decent quality, not e-bay specials.
DO get branded ballasts and bulbs if you can.
DD go for 4300K or 5000K ...NO HIGHER, or you will be disappointed. It's a little known fact that the lower the colour temperature, the more usable light it gives. 4300K is daylight, 5000K is a bluish day. OE HID systems ALL use 4300K.

DO NOT rely on it being plug and play. Some kits are, many aren't.
DO NOT moan if PC Plod tells you to take them off, or fines you ;) :D

just me 21 October 2013 05:58 PM

Alcazar if you get those aftermarket fitting kits which contain lenses, this makes them legal?

urban 21 October 2013 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by alcazar (Post 11242226)
Sorry, but that's a myth.

The law as it stands states that "self levelling and headlamp washers, IF FITTED, MUST WORK".
That's all.

Fair enough, that explains why I see some may cocks driving about in cars that clearly have had aftermarket kits fitted to them - fcuking blinding everyone now that winter approaches!

just me 21 October 2013 06:14 PM

Something like this would be legal? http://www.ebay.com/itm/4X6-H6054-PROJECTOR-LENS-CLEAR-HEADLIGHT-4300K-H4-HID-LOW-BEAM-SLIM-BALLAST-KITS-/190884729918?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Make%3ASubaru&hash=item2c719dd43e&vxp=mtr

MattyB1983 21 October 2013 06:41 PM

What about some really good quality bulbs ?
Halfords do some that claim to give out 120% more light than standard bulbs. They are roughly £30 each but think they are buy one get one free.
All completely legal too ofcourse.

just me 21 October 2013 06:46 PM

can the lenses from a hawk be made to fit a blob?

Fudgey 21 October 2013 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by MrNoisy (Post 11242081)
Easy - read my guide in the how to archive mate

Ace, will have a look. Cheers mate


Originally Posted by urban (Post 11242160)
You know that after market HID kits are not legal, unless you have self levelling and headlamp washers.

Not arsed about that really, not that hard to change back for mot time, plus if said mot'er will pass a decat, im sure they wont look too closely at the headlamps.


Originally Posted by alcazar (Post 11242226)
Sorry, but that's a myth.

The law as it stands states that "self levelling and headlamp washers, IF FITTED, MUST WORK".
That's all.

But what DOES make aftermarket kits illegal is that the bulbs aren't compatible with the lenses/reflectors, and it can easily be ascertained by checking for the E-Mark.

Fudgey: I'm not up on the Hella units fitted to those cars. Do they have separate dip and main beam?
if so, you'd need TWO kits, or just do the dip and see how you get on with those.

Some tips:

DO buy decent quality, not e-bay specials.
DO get branded ballasts and bulbs if you can.
DD go for 4300K or 5000K ...NO HIGHER, or you will be disappointed. It's a little known fact that the lower the colour temperature, the more usable light it gives. 4300K is daylight, 5000K is a bluish day. OE HID systems ALL use 4300K.

DO NOT rely on it being plug and play. Some kits are, many aren't.
DO NOT moan if PC Plod tells you to take them off, or fines you ;) :D

I cant find any less than 6000k 35w ones in h7 bud.
As for not plug and play, thats not really amproblem either as i do electronics so have all the kit i need at work.

Thanks for the replys tho :)

The Trooper 1815 21 October 2013 09:51 PM


Originally Posted by Fudgey (Post 11242611)
Ace, will have a look. Cheers mate



Not arsed about that really, not that hard to change back for mot time, plus if said mot'er will pass a decat, im sure they wont look too closely at the headlamps.



I cant find any less than 6000k 35w ones in h7 bud.
As for not plug and play, thats not really amproblem either as i do electronics so have all the kit i need at work.

Thanks for the replys tho :)

You wont blind anyone with a decat but Plod can make your life difficult with ****e HID's on display.

I fitted Super Brilliant (waited for a BOGOF) bulbs to my Classic with crystal lenses, way better than the previous HID kit which I ditched after a few months.

My old Bugeye wagon and saloon had the Prodrive UK 300 lamps and they where woeful. Again fitted the better bulbs and Bob's your cross dressing aunty.

The Trooper 1815 21 October 2013 09:52 PM


Originally Posted by just me (Post 11242337)
Something like this would be legal? http://www.ebay.com/itm/4X6-H6054-PR...9dd43e&vxp=mtr

They are LHD lights. Remember that the light pattern is cast out from the headlight reflector and not the glass cover that dictate the beam pattern.

$125 postage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fudgey 21 October 2013 10:09 PM

True about the beam pattern i guess.
I fitted supposedly decent bulbs to my old puma that had projector lamps, made little difference except to my wallet lol. Even on full beam my mates clio 182 had brighter lamps on dipped!

Hmm, will have a think.

Fudgey 21 October 2013 10:43 PM

One more question, do you need a canbus kit for a 2001 impreza?
Or just the normal ballasts?

Cheers!

EssexJamie 21 October 2013 11:10 PM

I found the Phillips Xtreme Visions dipped and main beam bulbs worked, coupled with some 5 way LED ice white side light bulbs! Made my UK300 bug lights a lot better.

MrNoisy 21 October 2013 11:22 PM

The difference between the standard headlamps (with or without uprated bulbs) and an HID kit is like night and day - once fitted you'd never go back.
Having fitted some to my old WRX with STI projector lamps, I converted my blob lamps over without a second thought; get an alignment done on the lights and jobs a good un; they flew through MOT no problem at all. 4300k all the way like Alcazar said.
I bought mine from Aztec Performance; there are cheaper kits but tbh the newer Aztec kit is really good and so I just went back as I'd bought from them before.
I'd advise you spend your money on an HID kit rather than bulbs which won't deliver what you're after.

I've run two sets now over the last 5 years and never been pulled for them once.

Fudgey 22 October 2013 07:55 AM

Cheers mate, for the price of the kit, i have spent that on 'top of the range' bulbs before and not been impressed so gonna try a HID kit.

do you know if a canbus system is needed?
and how long did it take to fit yours mate, i found your how-to and it looks pretty straight forward :DD:

alcazar 22 October 2013 09:29 AM

No canbus probs with that car.

Fudgey 22 October 2013 11:44 AM

cool, cheers bud :D

MrNoisy 23 October 2013 07:01 AM


Originally Posted by Fudgey (Post 11242942)
Cheers mate, for the price of the kit, i have spent that on 'top of the range' bulbs before and not been impressed so gonna try a HID kit.

do you know if a canbus system is needed?
and how long did it take to fit yours mate, i found your how-to and it looks pretty straight forward :DD:

It is straight forward dude and the newer kits are even more simple to fit :).
No canbus like the man said :)

Fudgey 23 October 2013 08:59 AM

cheers lads, ordered last a night a set from xenons online, was about £54 inc delivery.
after reading reviews of the cheaper ebay kits i thought id best avoid - although plenty of people have no problems.

will see what they are like when fitted i guess!

so cheers again all :D

just me 23 October 2013 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by MrNoisy (Post 11242853)
The difference between the standard headlamps (with or without uprated bulbs) and an HID kit is like night and day - once fitted you'd never go back.
Having fitted some to my old WRX with STI projector lamps, I converted my blob lamps over without a second thought; get an alignment done on the lights and jobs a good un; they flew through MOT no problem at all. 4300k all the way like Alcazar said.
I bought mine from Aztec Performance; there are cheaper kits but tbh the newer Aztec kit is really good and so I just went back as I'd bought from them before.
I'd advise you spend your money on an HID kit rather than bulbs which won't deliver what you're after.

I've run two sets now over the last 5 years and never been pulled for them once.

how did you do the conversion?

Fudgey 23 October 2013 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by just me (Post 11243926)
how did you do the conversion?

Like this:

https://www.scoobynet.com/lighting-a...-a-bugeye.html

MrNoisy 23 October 2013 02:06 PM

^^ Hahahaha what he said :)

The newer kits are actually easier than this still; the blob conversion took me about an hour to do both headlamps.

Fudgey 25 October 2013 01:32 PM

well, the kit arrived earlier and i have tested they work, and they do - they are fooking bright lol
they look very easy to fit, so ill try and have a go at fitting them later :D

Trinity 25 October 2013 02:37 PM

It should be law that all cars should now be fitted with HID's. I drove my mums Passat the other day, it was lethal down a country lane, like candles mounted to the bumper.

Yep I agree with Mr Noisy, no bulb ever gets close to a HID, and I tried so many in my younger years :)

Trinity 25 October 2013 02:38 PM

but in saying that I think all cars should also be AWD, that save a few deaths especially with the nobs in the wet and snow plowing down rounds at 90 in their flimsy FWD Audis :)

Fudgey 25 October 2013 10:03 PM

All fitted with no issues regarding the hid's. ot been out in the car yet to test them properly so will report back once i have.

I also got some led side light bulbs, but they are push in ones, not bayonet so dont fit lol. It looks a bit odd with yellow sides and white dipped so ill get some sides that do fit.

The only other issues i had were the screws holding the front of the light unit in all sheared off when undoing them, even after a blast of wd40... And i think the car has had a light knock as the ball joint part of the o/s lamp was still attached to the socket when i removed the unit, and covered in glue lol.

So i used a **** load of mitremate and activator to glue it back on and it seems ok, but i also for silly reason pushed the lens part of the light when refitting and it went crunch... And is now a bit wobbly, so ill have to take it back out and get the super glue out again....

So, xenons online is the place to get them from. Cant fault the kit all. Took about an hour to fit all in i guess with the messing about

Fudgey 28 October 2013 08:39 AM

Well, upon my drive to work today... it was lightish as the clocks changed lol so cant tell how good they are in the dark yet....

BUT

i did notice tht when i turned on the lights.... the radio reception went to ****

lights off = radio is fine
lights on = radio is poo

there was a H4 3 pin connector that the pins were a bit green on, so ill clean them up to see if it makes any difference...

alcazar 28 October 2013 11:46 AM

Might be a dodgy ballast.

If it continues, unplug each ballast, in turn, from the power supply, (NOT the thick lead to the bulb), and see if it makes any difference. If it does on one and not the other, get them to change it.

If it's both of them-mail to them might produce a solution....if it's the ballasts, you can't be the only one with that problem?


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