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alcazar 24 March 2018 11:18 AM

Hypocrisy, thy name is...Liebour!
 
Owen Smith sacked for stating that he belives there should be a second referendum.:thumb:

And who pops up to defend Jezza Flip-Flop-Man, saying that there should be no place on the front bench for anyone not supporting Liebour policy?:Suspiciou

Only Diane "Trust me" Abbott, who defied a Liebour three line whip over Brexit...and got away with it.....:Whatever_

You couldn't make it up...and still the socilaists on here support this crew...LOL

Martin2005 24 March 2018 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by alcazar (Post 12001891)
Owen Smith sacked for stating that he belives there should be a second referendum.:thumb:

And who pops up to defend Jezza Flip-Flop-Man, saying that there should be no place on the front bench for anyone not supporting Liebour policy?:Suspiciou

Only Diane "Trust me" Abbott, who defied a Liebour three line whip over Brexit...and got away with it.....:Whatever_

You couldn't make it up...and still the socilaists on here support this crew...LOL

Well if you mean me, I wouldn't vote for Corbyn under any circumstances.

ALi-B 24 March 2018 11:55 AM


You couldn't make it up...and still the socilaists on here support this crew...LOL
Pardon me for answering on someone's behalf, but I don't think there is hardly anyone on Scoobynet that vocally supports Corbyn's Liebour (as most would be laughed off here :lol1: ).

Well, ten according to your poll last year: https://www.scoobynet.com/non-scooby...-election.html

I think maybe the folk you are inferring to are/were Liberal voters now these are quite vocal members with a almost Northern like stubbornness (which is quite commendable for shandy drinking southerners).

alcazar 24 March 2018 08:26 PM

LOL at the deafening silence from all the lefties on here.

ALi-B 24 March 2018 10:25 PM

The're busy in their local town centre wearing a parody t-shirt depicting Corbyn as Che Guevara standing on a soap box waving a home made placard and shouting "For the many, not the few!"

Hopefully a local will throw a can of Skol filled with p*ss at them. :thumb:

neil-h 24 March 2018 11:13 PM


Originally Posted by alcazar (Post 12002008)
LOL at the deafening silence from all the lefties on here.

Awwwww what’s the matter, feeling frustrated you didn’t get the argument you were so desperate for?

alcazar 25 March 2018 11:27 AM

Not at all, oh leftie one.

Just not surprised at how little rancour there is when Liebour pull a stunt like this. But let the evil Tories do owt wrong and all the Remongs on here will be on crying....LOL

The Trooper 1815 25 March 2018 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by alcazar (Post 12001891)
Owen Smith sacked for stating that he belives there should be a second referendum.:thumb:

And who pops up to defend Jezza Flip-Flop-Man, saying that there should be no place on the front bench for anyone not supporting Liebour policy?:Suspiciou

Only Diane "Trust me" Abbott, who defied a Liebour three line whip over Brexit...and got away with it.....:Whatever_

You couldn't make it up...and still the socilaists on here support this crew...LOL

The big difference is Owen Smith never put out for Corbyn like Lieane Abbot.

alcazar 25 March 2018 03:46 PM

Oh aye, forgot about that. Eeeeuuuuwww.

legb4rsk 25 March 2018 04:10 PM

Hypocritical,lying,self-serving politician!

SHOCK,HORROR!!

Tidgy 25 March 2018 05:55 PM

lol, liebour will try anything to get into power, they even promised free money at the last election and still couldn't win. The whole party needs a revamp, they have a leader that will never win an election, a party that doesn't support the leader in any strength and are trying to win elections with promises only the young and naive will believe is actually possible. They would ruin the country.

alcazar 25 March 2018 09:07 PM

Yep...but they will probably get in, because the Tories are under-estimating just how dishonest Liebour are.

The Trooper 1815 25 March 2018 11:40 PM


Originally Posted by alcazar (Post 12002221)
Yep...but they will probably get in, because the Tories are under-estimating just how dishonest Liebour are.

Or how much Labour have duped the current "target audience" of 20 somethings.

Martin2005 26 March 2018 12:40 AM


Originally Posted by Tidgy (Post 12002184)
lol, liebour will try anything to get into power, they even promised free money at the last election and still couldn't win. The whole party needs a revamp, they have a leader that will never win an election, a party that doesn't support the leader in any strength and are trying to win elections with promises only the young and naive will believe is actually possible. They would ruin the country.

Neither Labour or Tories are currently fit to govern.

Tidgy 26 March 2018 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by Martin2005 (Post 12002244)
Neither Labour or Tories are currently fit to govern.

Our whole political system is fooked, party politics has destroyed democracy.

Used to be MP's represented their constituents, now they represent their parties.

alcazar 26 March 2018 11:03 AM

yep.
Our present incompetent was local council leader, as well as lecturer at a 6th form college.
He then gives up being leader because it's sooooo important to be vice principal. A few years later he gives up the council and politics as it's sooooooooo important to be principal:rolleyes:

And yes, you guessed it, gave THAT up as it was soooooooooooooooo important to be MP and represent the local people.

Then what does he do on being elected? Takes a position as a party whip...so he can now represent the party, not us.


The utter, utter b@stard!

alcazar 26 March 2018 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by Martin2005 (Post 12002244)
Neither Labour or Tories are currently fit to govern.

So who would you put in place?

Martin2005 26 March 2018 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by alcazar (Post 12002268)
So who would you put in place?

Currently there is no one

Jonnys3 26 March 2018 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by Tidgy (Post 12002184)
liebour ... are trying to win elections with promises only the young and naive will believe is actually possible

And that is cause for great concern given the impact it had at the last election.

Martin2005 26 March 2018 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by Jonnys3 (Post 12002276)
And that is cause for great concern given the impact it had at the last election.

How about the Tories buying off an even bigger voting demographic with 'triple locked' pensions?

Successive governments have screwed over young people, someone offers them something, then all of sudden it's a 'cause for great concern'

alcazar 26 March 2018 01:08 PM

Well, only if what was offered was mostly a lie?

And get off the pensioners' case. We PAID for our pensions, it's not a gift you know?

Martin2005 26 March 2018 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by alcazar (Post 12002283)
Well, only if what was offered was mostly a lie?

And get off the pensioners' case. We PAID for our pensions, it's not a gift you know?

No your pension is paid for by people currently paying tax. When you worked you were paying the pensions of those (at the time) retired. It's the way the system works.

I'm not 'on the case' of pensioners, I'm just pointing out that they've been offered something really good because they represent a powerful voting block.

Tidgy 26 March 2018 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by Martin2005 (Post 12002280)
How about the Tories buying off an even bigger voting demographic with 'triple locked' pensions?

Successive governments have screwed over young people, someone offers them something, then all of sudden it's a 'cause for great concern'

Because its unrealistic and would bankrupt the country to do it, yet young people are too naive to realise the reality we are in.

Tidgy 26 March 2018 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by Martin2005 (Post 12002287)
No your pension is paid for by people currently paying tax. When you worked you were paying the pensions of those (at the time) retired. It's the way the system works.

way its going by the time i retire i'll get 50p and an empty crisp packet for a state pension

Martin2005 26 March 2018 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by Tidgy (Post 12002289)
Because its unrealistic and would bankrupt the country to do it, yet young people are too naive to realise the reality we are in.

I agree with the change in University funding, I think it's a more sustainable system.

But to claim that changing back to the old system would 'bankrupt the country' is also pretty naive.

Tidgy 26 March 2018 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by Martin2005 (Post 12002292)
I agree with the change in University funding, I think it's a more sustainable system.

But to claim that changing back to the old system would 'bankrupt the country' is also pretty naive.

So where does the xxxx extra millions come from?

our whole university systems is flawed anyway, no one stops to ask 'does everyone have the intelligence and drive to get a degree worth the paper its printed on?' they just keep admitting more and more people.

SouthWalesSam 26 March 2018 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by Martin2005 (Post 12002287)
No your pension is paid for by people currently paying tax. When you worked you were paying the pensions of those (at the time) retired. It's the way the system works.

I'm not 'on the case' of pensioners, I'm just pointing out that they've been offered something really good because they represent a powerful voting block.

Correct! The state pension is the biggest Ponzi scheme on the planet.

As you say, and despite arguments to the contrary, the state pension is alive and well and thriving because no government would dare to touch it for fear of instantly become 'the previous government'.

Pensioners vote, young people don't.

Martin2005 26 March 2018 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by Tidgy (Post 12002296)
So where does the xxxx extra millions come from?

our whole university systems is flawed anyway, no one stops to ask 'does everyone have the intelligence and drive to get a degree worth the paper its printed on?' they just keep admitting more and more people.

From the same place the extra £6bn a year the additional cost of 'the triple lock' does?

Tidgy 26 March 2018 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by Martin2005 (Post 12002299)
From the same place the extra £6bn a year the additional cost of 'the triple lock' does?

given how many people are struggling to pay the bills when they retire how would you suggest thast sorted out?

or are you saying kids should get free uni rather than increase in pension?

Martin2005 26 March 2018 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by Tidgy (Post 12002301)
given how many people are struggling to pay the bills when they retire how would you suggest thast sorted out?

or are you saying kids should get free uni rather than increase in pension?

nope

You're the one who only seems to deal in absolutes, Labour= bad, Tories = good, young people = bad, old people = good etc.

Which again (and to coin your current favourite word) is naive
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