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Old 19 July 2013, 02:46 PM
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Default Test drove an EP3 today.

Was thinking of getting some sort of sub 5k thrasher.

Even though it looks like a bread van it was actually not bad. The one I looked at was an 05 plate and had 75k. Yeah they are very Baz and Daz but I'm not too bothered.

It really picked up speed when the V-tec kicked in. I thought it would be slower.

I didn't buy it cos it's the first one I drove, and 1st and 2nd felt very sloppy to me, like the gear box was well worn, or the clutch had a ton of wear on it. It just wasn't slotting home like I thought a Honda should with precision.

Anyone owned an EP3 can advise?
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Clio 182.....
Old 19 July 2013, 03:33 PM
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Clio 182.....
I'd worry about the electrics.
Old 19 July 2013, 03:38 PM
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Im on my second only thing that has went wrong with them is boiling the brakes lol
Old 19 July 2013, 03:39 PM
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I had an ep3. Great cars and surprisingly nippy. But I had a nightmare with the engine. Head gasket went and then the bottom end. My mates has just spun a bearing as well. So don't listen to the "bullet proof engine" pish. No that am saying keep away. This can happen to any car. My gearbox was sloppy i thought and my other friend had one which I drove and that was sloppy.
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Originally Posted by marshall332bhp
I had an ep3. Great cars and surprisingly nippy. But I had a nightmare with the engine. Head gasket went and then the bottom end. My mates has just spun a bearing as well. So don't listen to the "bullet proof engine" pish. No that am saying keep away. This can happen to any car. My gearbox was sloppy i thought and my other friend had one which I drove and that was sloppy.
Yeah even the best engine will let go if someone doesn't service it right or they lose coolant or something and let it overheat.

I thought the gear box would be better, felt like stirring a drum full of stones with a plank.

The gear **** is in a weird position too but it didn't bother me.
Old 19 July 2013, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
Yeah even the best engine will let go if someone doesn't service it right or they lose coolant or something and let it overheat.

I thought the gear box would be better, felt like stirring a drum full of stones with a plank.

The gear **** is in a weird position too but it didn't bother me.
I loved the gear stick position. But the gear changes were like shagg1ng a shoe box full of liver!

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Old 19 July 2013, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by marshall332bhp
I loved the gear stick position. But the gear changes were like shagg1ng a shoe box full of liver!
That's not an image I wanted in my head lol.
Old 19 July 2013, 04:08 PM
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Haha.
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Gear change should be super smooth if the 'box is in good health. They do wear engine mounts though so could be moment of the engine & gearbox that's causing a sloppy feeling?
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I put a new clutch in my ep3 with 76k on it aswell as new box oil and uprated mounts and it completely transformed the gear change, it was precise as a firing pin, there is also an uprated shifter bush kit which can be installed.when I got my ep3 the gear change was awful but after I changed the above it was bang on.i got all my bits from unit 8
Old 19 July 2013, 06:22 PM
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Mine had new clutch and gearbox oil when I got it. I had it fitted. Was still pony. Must have been something worn somewhere
Old 19 July 2013, 10:18 PM
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I bought a new one 10 years ago. (RD03 CZV)

Couldn't be doing with the lifeless steering and hitting vtec became a bit of a bore - had to be doing silly speeds to enjoy it.

A nicely engineered engine and gearbox though.
Old 20 July 2013, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by zip106
I bought a new one 10 years ago. (RD03 CZV)

Couldn't be doing with the lifeless steering and hitting vtec became a bit of a bore - had to be doing silly speeds to enjoy it.

A nicely engineered engine and gearbox though.
yep very good when newish gets a little stiff when cold but suspension is terible on newer models not a scooby eater (wish i still had my ep3 ) and eats front tires
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Most of the ep3s are like this afaik, think its down to the long gear linkage etc, however the s2000 and integra are not I belive as the stick is lower down close to the box.
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Hi I have bought a s2000 and my mate has ep3 and they are great cars gear changing is a plesure such nice gearbox especially on the s. Engine is brilliant mine is 46k and drives spot on my mates ep3 is on 70 and is like new . The ep3 is light so can be decent on fuel and. I was going to buy one because I wanted 4 seats preferred but love the look better on s2000 so took the plunge. Civic is also very roomy inside I thought
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I think the ep3 got car of the year at some point (2005 I think)

The extra 40 ponies in the s2k is gotta be worth it though?
Old 21 July 2013, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs
I think the ep3 got car of the year at some point (2005 I think)

The extra 40 ponies in the s2k is gotta be worth it though?
The S2000 is still a bit 'hairdressery' being a convertible. I can really be dealing with convertibles.
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It might have 40bhp more but is a lot heavier then the ep3 so not too much difference apart from higher up. but the s is alot more fun car to drive by miles although the ep3 is also very good too
And this thing with 2 seater convertibles being heardresser cars is only becuase people are not man enough to drive them personally . silly thing to think I say
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
The S2000 is still a bit 'hairdressery' being a convertible. I can really be dealing with convertibles.
can't ?
You've bought your car now so why worry about that?

Rwd ftw! Totally different driving experience to fwd

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And I have a gay hairdresser car and couldn't give a toss, it's the driving experience I'm more bothered about.
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Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs
can't ?
You've bought your car now so why worry about that?

Rwd ftw! Totally different driving experience to fwd
Yeah I meant CAN'T lol.

It's hard not to look like a bit of a **** with the top down IMHO, and the folding roofs leak and shrink over time, etc.

I used to be very anti-FWD but now I'm not too bothered. A RWD without a proper LSD is a nightmare to drive for me and very bad in the wet. At least FWD is safer in the rain.

Getting a JDM EP3 would be very cool as they have a tad more power and a front LSD. They are twice the price though.
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Originally Posted by k9l3
It might have 40bhp more but is a lot heavier then the ep3
are you sure, a quick search on autotrader suggest that the s is 1535kg and the ep3 is 1550kg???
But then autotrader is never accurate.
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Ep3 is 1210kg
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
Yeah I meant CAN'T lol.

It's hard not to look like a bit of a **** with the top down IMHO, and the folding roofs leak and shrink over time, etc.

I used to be very anti-FWD but now I'm not too bothered. A RWD without a proper LSD is a nightmare to drive for me and very bad in the wet. At least FWD is safer in the rain.

Getting a JDM EP3 would be very cool as they have a tad more power and a front LSD. They are twice the price though.
I'm the same with the roof tbh, I just keep it up. Apart from this really sunny weather we are just having, with my roll cage I get a lot of looks, I think are they looking at me cos I'm a **** or admiring? **** it, it's the fun that counts. If your going to worry what folk think of you then tut tut tut.

Jdm are the best of course, I think the s2000 in a jdm might have LSD (not 100%) but the best of all would be a dc5 jdm with rwd
I have LSD

And depends on your use age wether its rwd or fwd tbh weekend car or dd.

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Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs
are you sure, a quick search on autotrader suggest that the s is 1535kg and the ep3 is 1550kg???
But then autotrader is never accurate.
1210 I think it is s2000 is definetly heavier its a suprise to me when I found out but I raced my friend alot of times and was very similar
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Originally Posted by k9l3
Ep3 is 1210kg
What's a s2000?
Where's the info from?
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I heard from my nowledge with the s2000 uk is better the jdm unlike the civic
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Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs
What's a s2000?
Where's the info from?
1321 sorry I talking about the civic. I not sure what the s is but sounds like what you said above
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Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs
What's a s2000?
Where's the info from?
1,321 kg for an EP3 according to Wiki.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Civic_Type_R
S2000 is between 1250 kg and 1299 kg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_S2000


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