dpb

How long should these things reasonably last?

Replaced DMF has done 45k, 4 years .

1300 quid repair this time essentially totals the car .

Is solid one any cheaper?


MOT place won't even rev it for emissions in case it 'blows up '

I have felt vibration through front and mentioned it - didn't dream this was the reason.


Bloody farce

Shaun

It all depends on the type of mileage you do. Mine started to "go" on my MK4 Mondeo at 80k but was still intact @ 110k last month when I sold it. My mileage is mostly longer journeys (minimal of 30 miles in one go on A roads).

As far as I'm aware you can't simply convert to a solid flywheel.

My solution was to sell it and buy a new car!

dpb

How much would a 2l petrol replacement clutch be?

I'm presuming wouldn't have to replace flywheel ,flywheel pulley starter motor crank sensor, kitchen sink etc etc at the same time
,but who knows!!??

dpb

Should I sign bit paper indemnify garage and tell get on with it, they said pulley was causing fair amount vibration.

It's 2004 tdci, 145k on clock

Shaun

The vibrating pulley is a common issue on these...... mine had been vibrating for like 60k+ and caused no issues whatsoever (apart from the slight squealing). It does not appear to cause any issues apart from the vibration felt.

Are the revs rising on torque (like a clutch slipping) or is it just the vibration you're getting off the pulley?

dpb

Didn't feel any slip at all...

All iv been noticed, maybe over last month possibly less is a bit of a vibration through pedals footwell area....like you know something is wrong.

I knew it was more than my slightly binding back brakes.


But they don't want rev it hard for emissions - incase it breaks crankshaft, god knows what

Bit of bloody shock I'd have to say. This time yesterday I wouldn't have guessed I'd be thinking about scrapping it. Just replaced exhaust and brakes too

Mind you boilers stopped working last week, computer week before and 'discovered' 1/2” gap above double glazing this week where it's sagged

Osimabu

iTrader: (2)

It sounds like the vibration might be coming from an albatross you've run over with luck like that.

We've just p/x'd our 2008 Fiesta 1.6 diesel for a petrol one as it started breaking down at random and neither the AA nor our garage could positively identify the fault. I've gone right off diesels so I sympathise with your dilemma.

dpb

I'm pretty its all a ruse to get us to throw in the towel, even before thyve had time to go rusty.

And buy a new one

Osimabu

iTrader: (2)

I think you're right. Mind you, didn't Practical Classics say a while back that in future, faulty electronics will take over from rust as the reason a car can't be repaired?

dpb

Seems highly likely, the type that can only be reset by the dealer you mean, for mega bucks.

jura11

iTrader: (7)

Hi there

Do you have vibration in every gear?

If not,I wouldn't say is the DMF

Can be the worn engine mount etc. or badly balanced tyres.

Few people has done conversion from DMF to the Single/Solid Mass Flywheel,some with good success and some with few problems.

Just have look on TalkFord forum,there is few thread on this


Jura

dpb

Thanks, I been on there, somebody mentioned engine/box mounts.

You would have imagined garage would be able to tell difference....but maybe not

I'd have to say I don't associate vibration with any thing in particular , I'm just aware of it, car feels quite unsettled

Fairly sure I can feel nothing through holding gear lever, in any gear

dpb

Garage not wanting to do MOT, without disclaimer seems pretty serious tho


Maybe theyre upset iv done my own brakes

jura11

iTrader: (7)

Agreed on this,our garage said something similar,DMF is worn and will need to be replaced ..
We are replaced engine mounts,last time we are have similar problem with violent shaking under acceleration in 3rd and 4th gear mainly(in 5th or 6th gear we are can't feel any shaking/vibration through the floor),we are replaced engine mount and this shaking has disappeared

Our DMF has done around 100k without the issue,we are bought the car with 88k miles with still same DMF

If is DMF worn or is on the the way out,there should be noise or some shaking like clutch slipping etc.

Not sure there

Jura

dpb

Yes trying to remember what it was like before it was replaced before,

I'm pretty sure it wasn't like this.

dpb

Now garage completely refusing to do MOT.

Gave me an address for some back street boys, who will 'do any car...'


Iv booked it in all ready down the road, I guess if they refuse that's the end if it.


Apparently MOT station are responsible for any damage that could ensue during test..??




I mentioned from the off that there was some vibration, ill not mention to the next lot.

dpb

Well garage 2 blocks away put it through..

Failed on unbalanced front brakes...

2 wheel bearings

1 stop light


No mention of possible clutch problems, maybe this wouldn't arise in test procedure or maybe they don't care


All bit peculiar

dpb

There's no judder or clutch slip as far as I can tell!

scouse2

iTrader: (2)

If you rest your foot on the clutch pedal and press it down just a few mm you will feel a light patter against your foot this would be the sign of a faulty dmf,well on my one it was and if you leave it,it can damage your starter motor aswell.
I say this from experience,im not a mechanic but i hope it helps diagnose it.
i paid 600 with genuine parts it helps to have a nice friend in the dealers though.

mondeo tdci 130 02 model 200k taxi btw

dpb

Thanks that mate

You got 45k on me I see!

jaytc2003

iTrader: (1)

was going to say wheel bearings. My St goes through them like nobodies business exactly the same symptoms. last time is caused a new brake disc to become warped so had to replace them as well.

dpb

How do you test wheel bearings though....

After having problems with rear brakes I was skeptical and followed Haynes manual for testing rear hubs - they seemed ok, a couple months ago

scouse2

iTrader: (2)

Nah i got rid 4yrs ago so probably a few miles more,
ive got a passat sport 2.0tdi now best car so far although i have just replaced the clutch and dmf and clutch slave and master cylinder @ 100k

Tekniclutch charged me £360 for a sachs dmf clutch and slave and flywheel bolts..
total price with clutch master cylinder fitted £580.

yours should not be much diffrent in price

dpb

Gosh, they're not so keen on that firm on talkford you know - from the little iv read


I'm praying first garage just got it completely wrong...presently

scouse2

iTrader: (2)

To be fare i made it sound like tekniclutch fitted it,
but they just supplied me with it and a friend with a garage fitted it for me.

Anyway i had no problem using tekniclutch and would again.

jaytc2003

iTrader: (1)

usually it is jacking the car up and wobbling the wheels. Thing is on the failures I have had, only 1 has wobbled (only ever had them on the mondy no other car has suffered)

dpb

Well that's what I did, couldn't seem make them wobble

Oh well, they've done them now. ( i hope )

Came away with 428 bill including mot, better than 1300 for new DMF

ditchmyster

iTrader: (7)

ouch! doesn't bode well for diesels being cheap to run.

They may well do 15 or so more per gallon than the petrol version but they don't half cost a lot in repairs.

dpb

I've thought about it actually, and I realised a modern diesel is similar to running a sports car of old

If you want something with a bit of power ( torque in this instance ) , your going to have to pay for it

Brun

I stand by the soot chuckers. 190k miles covered in a Fabia VRS with the only non wear and tear items being replaced being the steering rack and a radiator