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Old 12 May 2013, 10:16 PM
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Default Audi RS6.

As the post says anyone got any info on these cars are they expensive to run, quick etc any info much appreicated. Fancy another car along with the Scooby and quite like the look of them proper sleeper car lol.
Old 12 May 2013, 10:29 PM
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Ive had a few RS6's..... What sort of year and body are you thinking of ?

Gearboxes and suspension pre 2006, bullet proof thereafter....

Google Audi SRS and Audi 246 good forums for Audi

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Ive always wanted one of these, early ones are reasonable money now. Was tempted by an rs4 avant last year but couldn't justify the expense at the time.
Old 12 May 2013, 10:37 PM
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goes like a rocket...in a straight line though , but if you want a secondhand one just make sure you have deep pocket !
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I had a C5 RS6 4 years ago. It was a great car, amazingly quick in a straight line, not too bad round a corner (if you ease up before the corner), but they are very heavy. The power is amazing, 450/450, they pull like a train in any gear at any speed. They're at an age where things are starting to wear out and they're not cheap to fix. Suspension is the first problem area if they still have DRC...£1k per corner if fitted by Audi, but most have been replaced with Bilstein or KW shocks. Intercoolers are next to go, looking at around £800-1500 for replacement. Turbos are another problem area and there's 2 of them...then the gearbox, £5k to replace...lastly, fuel...17mpg if you driving miss daisy, 5-8 if you're in a rush
These cars are amazing, I still miss mine but I would never go back...unless I win the lottery, but don't let me put you off.
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This is an interesting video - Chris Harris on an Audi S4 he just picked up.

Old 13 May 2013, 06:33 AM
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Haha funny this is up because on Friday I was playing around with one of these, it was a brand new 2013 plate RS6, he couldn't pass me till the 130 mark then he made his creep past and I got bad brake fade

Didn't realise these are 450bhp makes me wonder what I'm running now I thought I was around 320 but now I'm wondering

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Originally Posted by XDevil666
Haha funny this is up because on Friday I was playing around with one of these, it was a brand new 2013 plate RS6, he couldn't pass me till the 130 mark then he made his creep past and I got bad brake fade

Didn't realise these are 450bhp makes me wonder what I'm running now I thought I was around 320 but now I'm wondering
Haha The new RS6 is 550bhp, i think he may of been toying with you even in a light classic, my lardy 340bhp newage struggled with one of the bi-turbo diesels just recently !!
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Woot, a subject I can come back from the grave and provide information on.

You have to be sooooooooooooo careful when buying one of these and the running costs are like you wouldn't believe in upkeep compared to scoobs, easily triple to qruadruple the costs. As mentioned, C5 revision (V8 4.2 Turbo), DRC suspension WILL fail on you and 50/50 on the gearbox eating itself at some point. Bilstein PSS9 suspension is the weapon of choice to replace it.

We are well behind the yanks in bulletproofing the gearboxes but 517 Trans and Level 10 offer some pretty mentally tough options for uprated torque convertors, gearboxes, clutch packs etc and a few of us have actually sourced uprated boxed from yankland. AmD Essex claim to have a 3rd party built bulletproof gearbox option but we haven't been able to get any useful info from them about it.

You have to really wait for the gearboxes to get up to operating temps before ragging them and this can take easily over 10 minutes so this isn't a beast for going for a quick rag around the corner in.

You really need to invest in a VCDS cable and the software that works with it. You will then be able to query pretty well ever aspect of the car, as I find myself doing all to often looking for the next failing component.

The intercoolers tend to fail over time and you would be a fool to repair/replace with OE imo. Wagner intercoolers can be £1200 on their own easily but again are the weapon of choice.

I bought mine in 11/11 and got a fairly good, unmolested exampleon 60k miles for £10500. I have since spent almost double that in upkeep and modding, you have been warned .

Details of my beast are here - http://forum.rs246.com/viewtopic.php...rt=390#p499709 - I am on 540brake and 610 torque if memory serves.

That is pretty well the most active RS6 forum in the country, you would be wise to join there, say hi and have a hunt around. When in there, have a look at the stickied "Audi RS6 Spec and FAQ Threads".

While Fluffy is my fav car without a shadow of a doubt "Brutus" is a lovely place to be in and goes like a flaming bullet. Handles like a tub of lard in comparison to the other cars but the fat PSS tyres, PSS9 suspension and uprated ARBs help as much as they can...

Is you are seriously interested, don't take a gamble on a car from a dealership, Audi or otherwise, there are 2 very good condition ones that I know of for sale currently, one of which is about to be traded in as he did an impulse buy on a new car so you would need to be quick for that one.

Yep, the brakes fade easily if you drive them properly, in a moment of cheapness/madness I bought some Mintex front pads, cracked them throughout and had them smoking at the end of every trip out, they were crumbled toast in under 1000 miles. Got Carbotech XP10 pads and they can stop a train over and over and over but had problems with noise in low speed conditions. Had a custom front disc commissioned and the "uprated" C6 Brambo caliper but the old setup with the Carbotech destroyed them for performance.

If you get a well sorted one you will be grinning from ear to ear every time you drive it. I have done Nur Spec R, various custom cats etc etc but nothing compares to the V8 roar through my current exhaust setup on the 6

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Old 13 May 2013, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by XDevil666
Haha funny this is up because on Friday I was playing around with one of these, it was a brand new 2013 plate RS6, he couldn't pass me till the 130 mark then he made his creep past and I got bad brake fade

Didn't realise these are 450bhp makes me wonder what I'm running now I thought I was around 320 but now I'm wondering
Mind that bonnet vent!
Old 13 May 2013, 09:19 AM
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If you are looking for a pretty pristine model with full Audi Service History and a rarer than hen's teeth intact Audi extended warranty then go here to Mattjet1's - http://forum.rs246.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=102453

Then there is Philroach's modded one but time is pretty critical as he is the one that surprised purchased a car and is chopping in - http://forum.rs246.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=103865

Found a clip of mine being stage 2 mapped, can get an idea of the sound from the Milltek system - https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10150497188271192
Old 13 May 2013, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Mellow Yellow !
Ive had a few RS6's..... What sort of year and body are you thinking of ?

Gearboxes and suspension pre 2006, bullet proof thereafter....

Google Audi SRS and Audi 246 good forums for Audi

Chris
Whooaaah - where did you spring from all of a sudden, Chris?!

Hope you're well - I still have the P1 with your Safety Devices cage in it.

Cheers

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Old 13 May 2013, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by fattb

Haha The new RS6 is 550bhp, i think he may of been toying with you even in a light classic, my lardy 340bhp newage struggled with one of the bi-turbo diesels just recently !!
Lol who knows he didn't seem the driver to toy looks like he likes a good boot

550 ahhh dam I meant a RS4 not 6 :/
Old 13 May 2013, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA

Mind that bonnet vent!
Haha I was thinking that, although the way I mounted it leaves me with a little hole at the back so the air can escape a bit

Cheers for the scoop mate it looks spot on
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Originally Posted by XDevil666
I meant a RS4 not 6 :/
No tubbies on that and if it was a 13 plate, any way of telling if it was so new that the driver was still running it in? A new RS4 wouldn't phase me in the slightest if it wanted a race, I would expect to spank it fairly easily with the 6.

Now, one of those with a TTS Supercharger on it and a MRC tune and that would be a different matter.....

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Originally Posted by Mr Footlong
No tubbies on that and if it was a 13 plate, any way of telling if it was so new that the driver was still running it in? A new RS4 wouldn't phase me in the slightest if it wanted a race, I would expect to spank it fairly easily with the 6.

Now, one of those with a TTS Supercharger on it and a MRC tune and that would be a different matter.....
man i have no idea, but looking at parkers guide they top out at 170MPH - so doesnt matter what i do to my car - it wont reach that speed
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Reading all those details from Mr Footlong puts me in mind of being fat, but hanging around with fatter people to make myself appear thin!

Anything that makes Scooby ownership appear a reasonably affordable financial prospect is rather appealing, and it seems RS6 ownership does just that.

But wouldn't you be creeping towards GT-R territory for the money? I've not looked I'll admit, but I think I'd sooner have the Nissan just to be a bit different.
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I drove this just for fun as I know the dealer
http://www.shaksspecialistcars.co.uk...kshire-2659164
Awesome is all I can say, and he's got some lovley toys if you browse his collection of cars.
Good outfit too.
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Would love a run against a V10 RS6
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You want to go up against my friends one, not too shabby at 757BHP/967NM

Video of him against a 996 Tubby at Bruntingthorpe - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kFji...ature=youtu.be

197 through the beams, ran out of track/ballballs at 204mph, with a spare gear.

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Top end of course he would beat me, im at 666bhp/550lbft weighing 1290kg, so acceleration test would be interesting
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Not saying that you wouldn't beat him at all down the first straight, but down that long straight I reckon he would mildly batter you without legged top gearing . Not sure how much speed he could keep up around the bend between the two compared to you either.

He is always up for a drag so feel free to call him out to an event
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Originally Posted by banny sti
Top end of course he would beat me, im at 666bhp/550lbft weighing 1290kg, so acceleration test would be interesting
I reckon you'll eat it on set off as the audis are quite heavy and although fast just a bit too smooth compared to an impreza like yours
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Originally Posted by banny sti
Top end of course he would beat me, im at 666bhp/550lbft weighing 1290kg, so acceleration test would be interesting
Holy ****!!!!
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The V10 is nice and now sensibly priced, I prefer the looks of the saloon but none were about when I was shopping. It wakes up with a remap and doesn't chew its gearbox.

The V8 (C5) suspension even if it was originally reliable (which it wasn't) will now be baggy so I wouldn't let the DRC issues put you off, the gearbox is a much trickier problem.
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Yep, the ZF slushbox as we call it is a pain. A new one from Audi, fitted can be 7k all day long if memory serves and only has a 2 year warranty. I simply wouldn't trust a boggo standard reconditioned box though that hadn't been uprated.

My max torque is specifically turned down as I even 3Nm up on the current 826 and she noticeably slips according to MRC.

Don't think for a second that an extended warranty from the likes of Warranty Direct etc will help as they use every, every, every single excuse in the book to not cough up.

The KW aftermarket suspension (non-adjustable) is a tad harsh and not in keeping with the C5 chassis IMO, it has to be adjustable dampening and the PSS9 tends to be the preferred kit but you will be getting close to 2k for those fitted in most instances.

Again, there are some really good forum owner examples available currently, one of which has a rebuilt box fitted by Unit 20, a well respected specialist.

Agreed on the C6 being a lot nicer as a saloon. I was looking at getting a C6 saloon next year and going to town on it but am hoping that rebuilding Fluffy stops that itch
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The drc in the v8s is actually a nicer ride and works well when gunning it, but a must IMO is get the extended Audi only warranty, but the car has to have full dealer history for it to be honoured.
And the mainenece cost in ownership will be more than you paid after owning for a few years.

I quite like that idea above in buying a s4 supercharged version and getting that map software from revo, that's very impressive as a sleeper, cheaper to buy too, good value I'd say.
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I wouldn't go anywhere near Revo and their generic plug in maps myself. MRC or Unit 20 bespoke mapping (and AmD or QST at a push) is the only way I would recommend.

I too liked the DRC ride for what little time I had it but it isn't a case of if it goes, it is when and more than likely one shock after another will fail on you. Unit 20 can rebuild the shocks if memory serves. Audi will rape you and I can only 100% recommend Camberley Audi for a perfect DRC fix job.

In my tech archive on RS246 I have a few articles on DRC that you can easily find and have a read/watch. The Audi warranty is expensive to most but a drop in the ocean compared to what you can shell out should it go boom. No Audi warranty, either buy very carefully or have a slush fund available.....

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The V10 is the only one to have, IMHO.
The V8 is ok, but getting old now and there are a couple of big issues (see above) which are £ks to fix.

The V10 is, so far, looking reasonable with reliability - only a few major issues reported.

Still, expect some big bills. Someone on 246 had a 50p oil gasket leak and the total cost in the end was thousands as it was an engine out job..
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