ste sti spec d

As title really, under 10k to spend, thinking of the above three, any thoughts ? Any owners ?

ditchmyster

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I'd say buy any of the above for under £10k and you'll be buying problems.

Range Rover = ****

VW = unreliable

Porker = nobber

Personally i'd sooner be a nobber than buy unreliable ****.

Tidgy

yeah, 10k aint enough for them, will be the dogs of em if any.

v10 diesel in the toureg aint bad once mapped, will crack 1000ftlb lol

billythekid

Pork probably most reliable of the 3.
Range rover is best to drive and best interior.
VW.... none of the above!

HTH!

SRSport

Porsche Range Rover VW

You got my interest up with this so a quick look through Autotrader and these are the best value for £10,000 Ive seen. Out of those the Toerag looks the best in terms of age/milage but with shocking VW reliability I would discard it. The RR wouldnt be much btter so out of the 3 it would have to be the Porsche for me.

ste sti spec d

Some good finds there, it's so hard to like the look if the Porsche but it prob is the best choice,

bustaMOVEs

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X5

SRSport

BMW petrol BMW diesel

Good call. Diesels only around £1000 more.

john banks

How does the X5 compare for reliability? Still fancy one some day.

SRSport

I'd like to know as well. The X5s and Range Rovers are the only 4x4s I like. From what I've read the 4 cylinder BMWs have poor reliability whereas the 6 cylinder models are ok. If anyone can confirm or not, that would be appreciated.

500

Get an X5.

We've had an ML and a Touareg. The Touareg is built on the same line as the Cayenne and share many of the same parts although the Cayenne is a little firmer.

You can't get a 4 cyl in an X5 so don't worry about it

They are all going to need money spending on them in one way or another!

bustaMOVEs

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Well I assume they are quite reliable tbh the 3.0d is anyway, but just pricey service costs as you would expect, and IMO the best drivers jeep out of them all as to why I'm getting one soon, but the newer 3.0d twin turbo model £20k plus ouch! The daily drive. And 0-60 in 7sec which ain't bad and £270 a years road tax too.

cuprajake

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Touareg and cayenne are the same chassi along with the
Q7. My dad had the v10 Tdi and while it was a good car it supped fuel. 15-18mpg at best. Also had a vogue range rover and again not the best on fuel and had a few faults, he's had both the td6 and the v8 supercharged versions.

brendy76

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I have a 4.6 V8 as the family wagon. Had it 4 years now and love it though it had had the default gearbox refurb, all autos need one in their lifetime.
They are all thirsty ******* and dont let anyone tell you different.
The 3.0d and 3.0i are underpowered and need worked/ driven hard everywhere, you wont see beyond 24mpg normal driving, maybe 28 on a run.
The 4.4 and my 4.6IS are only a little bit less frugal with 18-20mpg normal (mine averages 13.8 every tank due to short journeys) and 24-25mpg on motorway sat at 70. When you accelerate in the v8's on the motorway you can actually see the needle move so dont buy one and think you can eek good mpg out of it.
Build quality otherwise is very good, no rattles and everything just works.

john banks

What does the gearbox refurb involve? Not just a fluid change?

How does the ride quality and refinement compare to a V8 Range Rover?

Matteeboy

Inlaws old 3.0d (bought new in 2006) X5 hadn't missed a beat. Only annoyance is a weird discolouration around the window frames. Seems common on BMWs with black window surrounds.

urban

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Gas it

weirdfish

What ever you buy in this range make sure it has plenty of history with it, and try and find out if its had any of the known faults sorted, they all have them.
They can be had quite cheaply now because of running costs, but if you need to buy tyres or brakes then these can add up to a lot of money, also, you need to find a good local garage to service and look after it, never take it to the main stealers.
I've owned the RR supercharged sport, and 5 X5's, so if you need any info then give me a shout.
And if you can get one on LPG then it's not a bad idea, but again you need to make sure the system has been fitted correctly or it can be costly to put right.

brendy76

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I havent driven a v8 Rangie, the gearbox refurb includes new box internals and torque convertor, I had no change from 3k when I got it done and they threw in a 50k service practically FOC too.

As for LPGing it, the wife doesnt do enough miles a year to justify £2.4k conversion and it will be heading up the road soon as we dont need the huge rear bench anymore that the three girls are old enough to use normal seats or boosters rather than child car seats. (Its surprisingly difficult to find a car that will accept three child seats in the rear!).

darrenb87

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Out of the 3 i would say the range rover.
But between the x5 and the range rover it would be a tough call.
Especially the x5 with the 3.0d engine when mapped.

SPEN555

If your wanting to go for that bellend look go for it and get a Hummer Trounces the rest

The Trooper 1815

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Not quite sure bit there is a particular Cayenne engine that's very poor and the cylinder liners are made of chocolate and melt after about 40k, maaoosive bills to fix.

I'll see if I can dig out the Evo Mag article.

The Trooper 1815

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Turbos and V6s are broadly trouble-free apart from the V8's original plastic coolant pipes under the inlet manifold, which should have been changed to the later aluminium ones. Each spark plug's individual coil pack can fail, too, leading to a misfire.

The big problem is the S's Lokasil cylinder-coating failure. It starts with a sudden appetite for oil and an increasing knock, followed by a misfire as the bores and pistons are shredded. From first signs to death can take as little as 500 miles, and the problem can strike from around 70,000 miles. Turbos and later S models have a Nikasil coating which gives no trouble.

Truss

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A good friend of mine sold his cayenne recently. The fuel consumption was astounding, it was like giving an alcoholic a straw and a bottle of frosty jacks!
Bits and peices were a fortune.
For 10k, look elsewhere.

The Trooper 1815

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Shogun or Landcruiser, crude but built from granite.

The prefered transport of most African Despots, Guerillas and the UN. They must have something going for them.

SRSport

Shoguns are a little cheaper but Landcruisers are just as expensive as BMW X5s making them hard to justify. If it was me I would be looking at X5s, not sure whether I would get one remapped at that age/milage though.

SimonD

Don't how much brand/image matters to you but if you are after a good petrol 4x4 have you considered the Tribeca?
Ours is six years old and (with the exception of an a/c relay last summer) has been trouble free. You should be able to get a '58 reg low mileage example - much better than the RRs/VW/Porsches you'll get for your budget. Great spec, lovely engine and a very nice interior - particularly with the beige leather.

hodgy0_2

but if you buy right, depreciation is snail like


my Landcruiser has hardly lost anything in the years I have had it

and you have that knowing feeling that you are driving something a bit special (like driving a scooby in the mid 90's)

steverashi

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Mother in law has a Cayenne and is getting rid soon. She had a Lexarse RX before and has found the interior of the Porsche very basic compared to the RX. Both have been petrol and the fuel is a bit silly.

lozgti1

Blooming heck.didn't realise RR' s £70k -100k New! Wish they worked

wouldn't risk any of them at that age/price. Cost a fortune at some point. Just lease New one or if going to risk old 4x4 agree on landcruiser