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Old 11 April 2012, 09:58 PM
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Out of curiosity where would you place the following in terms of brand prestige? 1 being the most prestigious and 10 being the least.

1 Alfa Romeo
2 Audi
3 BMW
4 Ford
5 Honda
6 Jaguar
7 Mercedes
8 Subaru
9 Vauxhall
10 Volkswagon
Old 11 April 2012, 10:08 PM
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well 1,2 and 3.... ...its a toss up between the three german car manufacturers
followed by Jaguar, VW
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You think Germanys favourite taxi beats a Jaguar ?
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I do
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I suggest you try a Jaguar !
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I have...but that just me

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Fifth gear did a test on the public and the Jaguar came out ahead of BMW and Mercedes. For me it goes;

Mercedes
Jaguar
BMW
Audi
Alfa Romeo
Subaru
VW
Honda
Ford
Vauxhall

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Originally Posted by SRSport
Fifth gear did a test on the public and the Jaguar came out ahead of BMW and Mercedes. For me it goes;

Mercedes
Jaguar
BMW
Audi
Alfa Romeo
Subaru
VW
Honda
Ford
Vauxhall
hmmmm..........agreed on ford and vauxhall, but Alfa and Subaru "should be " lower than Honda and VW (all imho of cause )
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Whats the deal with spacing out the Audi and VW? Surely theyre pretty much the same damn car (apart from a couple of the Audi models)
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Mercedes
Jaguar
BMW
Audi
VW
Honda
Alfa Romeo
Subaru
Vauxhall
Ford
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Mercedes
Jaguar
BMW
Audi
VW
Alfa Romeo
Subaru
Ford
Honda
Vauxhall

Don't think there's much in it below Alfa Romeo but I don't rate vauxhall at all

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Originally Posted by davegtt
Whats the deal with spacing out the Audi and VW? Surely theyre pretty much the same damn car (apart from a couple of the Audi models)
There is a difference in public perception otherwise Audi wouldnt be able to charge more for the same but fitted with those 4 rings.
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Officially the world's most valuable car brand is Toyota worth about $24bn according to one of the more recent global surveys. I suspect that's due to worldwide recognition.

They'd also dropped a fair bit after the accelerator issues in the US.

5t.
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Originally Posted by davegtt
Whats the deal with spacing out the Audi and VW? Surely theyre pretty much the same damn car (apart from a couple of the Audi models)
Originally Posted by SRSport
There is a difference in public perception otherwise Audi wouldnt be able to charge more for the same but fitted with those 4 rings.
If you're going to do that you should include the luxury brands for all manufacturers; Lexus, Acura, Infinity.

Are you also including worldwide, Europe only, UK only?

More parameters needed.
Old 12 April 2012, 10:24 AM
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Surely Jaguar are well ahead if Mercedes sit in a new Jag then sit in a new Merc and the Merc feels pretty crappy in comparison and at leas Jag can build a car with an auto box that won't fail every 60k.
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Mercedes
Jaguar
BMW
Audi
VW
Alfa Romeo
Honda
Subaru
Ford
Vauxhall
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Originally Posted by Beef
If you're going to do that you should include the luxury brands for all manufacturers; Lexus, Acura, Infinity.

Are you also including worldwide, Europe only, UK only?

More parameters needed.
No you can apply it to those I listed, no need to do it to others. I could have included every car manufacturer in the world but people would have given up before getting half way through the list.

I used the most popular marques on here that people buy as I was curious to see what their perceptions were. I could have included Porsche but thats an obvious one and has its own rather niche market so didnt bother.
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Originally Posted by Luan Pra bang
Surely Jaguar are well ahead if Mercedes sit in a new Jag then sit in a new Merc and the Merc feels pretty crappy in comparison and at leas Jag can build a car with an auto box that won't fail every 60k.
Again, we are not talking about what is actually better, purely the perception o the brand. Quite often flagship models elevate the marque, for example Ford have the ST and RS models lifting them out of ordinary, Mercedes have SLR and SLS models where as Jaguar have the occasional supercar but not as part of a regular line up.
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Originally Posted by SRSport
Again, we are not talking about what is actually better, purely the perception o the brand. Quite often flagship models elevate the marque, for example Ford have the ST and RS models lifting them out of ordinary, Mercedes have SLR and SLS models where as Jaguar have the occasional supercar but not as part of a regular line up.
Have you seen the XKR-S ? I can imagine that there are people who rate German taxi cabs above Jaguar but those must be people who know nothing about cars. Jag don't make ****ty little cars like the a-class or smarts like merc so if it turns out that the majority of people think Merc has more prestiege then their marketing dept has done well.
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On brand preception - not who makes the better drivers cars, relibality etc
Subaru are bound to do badly in tihs sort of thing as they dont have a great market share and out of this list of manufactors probaly sell the least cars in the UK !

BMW
Mercedes
Audi
Jaguar
Volkswagen
Honda
Alfa Romeo
Subaru
Ford
Vauxhall

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Mercedes
Jaguar
BMW
Audi
Alfa Romeo
Volkswagon
Honda
Ford
Subaru
Vauxhall

This
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Originally Posted by Luan Pra bang
Have you seen the XKR-S ? I can imagine that there are people who rate German taxi cabs above Jaguar but those must be people who know nothing about cars. Jag don't make ****ty little cars like the a-class or smarts like merc so if it turns out that the majority of people think Merc has more prestiege then their marketing dept has done well.


Again, we are not talking about what is actually better, purely the perception o the brand
The XKR-S does little to lift the brand...and yes probably this is mainly to do with marketing, that usually does have significant influence on the image of the brand.
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Audi
Mercedes
Alfa Romeo
Jaguar
Ford
Volkswagen
BMW
Honda
Subaru
Vauxhall

Probably that order, the top 3 were all top marques in the 30's for racing, all the way through to the 50's+ the others then came on the scene, Jaguar next, the rest are relatively new in any other sense, to top marques would be this.

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Where is Peugeot on this list?
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How most would see them with the exception of one that I hate.

Mercedes
Jaguar
BMW
Alfa Romeo
Volkswagen
Honda
Subaru
Ford
Vauxhall




Audi



I hate Audi!!
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merc
bmw
jag
audi
alfa
honda
ford
subaru
vw
vauxhall
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jag
merc
bmw
audi
vw
alfa
honda
ford
subaru
vauxhall

That would be my opinion of perceived prestige but i doubt i'll ever buy a Bmw, Audi or VW as i don't like Bmw, they seem to be driven by ***** and Audi and VW seem to be over priced and driven by *****. All imho.

Kev
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i hate bmw drivers ther k.**** i need to uprade saing that i i trounced a m1 new one who was goin for it got to 70 nowhere to go anyfaster she called papa lol
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Originally Posted by SRSport




The XKR-S does little to lift the brand...and yes probably this is mainly to do with marketing, that usually does have significant influence on the image of the brand.
I have no idea why you put that brick wall smilie up, I am and have been aware all along about the difference between presteige and good ;I am just stating some opinions about why it annoys me that Merc can make so many average cars driven by sales reps and still be regarded as a presteige marque by many.
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Originally Posted by Luan Pra bang
I have no idea why you put that brick wall smilie up, I am and have been aware all along about the difference between presteige and good ;I am just stating some opinions about why it annoys me that Merc can make so many average cars driven by sales reps and still be regarded as a presteige marque by many.
Don't forget the vans !


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