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Old Nov 22, 2011 | 11:36 AM
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Question X5 or XC90

Under pressure from her indoors to get a 7 seater with AWD.

Thoughts on these two?

Both second hand around 3-4 years old.
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Old Nov 22, 2011 | 12:08 PM
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Old Nov 22, 2011 | 12:08 PM
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Like it or not, the Volvo will depreciate more and imo isn't as good looking.

As i'm sure you know, the Bimmer engines a peach too.
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Serious?
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Old Nov 22, 2011 | 12:16 PM
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Deadly!
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Old Nov 22, 2011 | 12:24 PM
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Yeah - one of the problems with the Volvo is that you can get a new one discounted almost to the price of one four years old at a dealer as they try and hold the prices up.

Older ones hold their value though.
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Old Nov 22, 2011 | 12:46 PM
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X5 has dissapotining mid/rear leg room IMO for such a large car. The rearmost two seats must have no more room than the rears on a Zafira - a much shorter/smaller car!

I think you need to scare her out of this sprog-shifter lark and threaten to get her a Oberaigner Viano.
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Old Nov 22, 2011 | 04:40 PM
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As if by magic she just happened to go to the BMW garage and just happened to come across a seven seat X5
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Old Nov 22, 2011 | 04:40 PM
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I've been looking for a week or so at XC90s I'm aiming for a 2006 facelift D7 with the newer 185bhp engine.
The engine on the one I test drove sounded a bit rattley (apparrently normal) but it drove OK.....in a straight line. The cabin had a pleasant quirkiness to it and was pretty roomy.
On the forums the main concern is the 4wd failing but no warning to driver. This is less frequent in newer models.
There is talk of a replacement model to hit residuals but I cannot find any firm information.
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Old Nov 22, 2011 | 04:41 PM
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i have to say Trout if it was me id have the Q7 also look great when Pimped.

Failing that X5 cos you just look rich in them.

I do like the Volvos but it just doesnt carry itsself as good as the other 2. failing that buy a fully loaded zafira Touring LOL the new shape.

i think that looks practical and rather nice,
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The X5 is a whole different class to drive over the XC90.

Interesting to hear the comments on the XC90 - a bit worrying if the drive fails!
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The Volvo's are a bit agricultural next to the X5, I think.

A mate has just bought an XC90 brand new (not sure which model) from a main dealer.
List price was over £43k!

He got it for £32k.....


As I said before..... Mazda Bongo!
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XC90 can be had with MASSIVE discounts!!!! But I think it is false value.

I have resisted the lure of the Volvom, but a pimped up X5 could be just the ticket!
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X5 with some stickers on it.....!
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Personally I think some of these so called 7 seaters are death traps. All the ones I have seen have the last two seats right by the rear windscreen. There is very little protection for those passengers if involved in a rear end shunt. I wouldn't put my kids in those seats and therefore wouldn't put other peoples kids in those seats either.
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Old Nov 22, 2011 | 10:33 PM
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+1 for X5, as long as you don't get a drug dealer one!

Out of curiosity, why such a negative view towards Q7's? Suddenly thought i haven't seen one for a very long while every since i noticed the above comment...
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Old Nov 22, 2011 | 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Dingdongler
Personally I think some of these so called 7 seaters are death traps. All the ones I have seen have the last two seats right by the rear windscreen. There is very little protection for those passengers if involved in a rear end shunt. I wouldn't put my kids in those seats and therefore wouldn't put other peoples kids in those seats either.
It's okay for the nanny and dog though
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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Dingdongler
Personally I think some of these so called 7 seaters are death traps. All the ones I have seen have the last two seats right by the rear windscreen. There is very little protection for those passengers if involved in a rear end shunt. I wouldn't put my kids in those seats and therefore wouldn't put other peoples kids in those seats either.
Having looked - the rear passengers in many mini/super-minis would be as close to the rear glass as the rear seats in the X5. They are titchy though, intended for occasional use with diddy passengers!
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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 12:40 PM
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Just taken delivery of a new X5. Not gone with the 7 seats but just make sure you get one with the comfort seats, they are amazing.

The X5 has just had it's mid run refresh and the new X3 has been made to look like it so chances are it'll live for a while yet or any new version will be very similar.

The XC90 in comparison has been around a long time and in the engine dept falls well short.

The Q7 is a lovely car but falls short in terms of performance and emissions vs the BMW plus it is absoluetly huge (and won't go in my garage )
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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 01:23 PM
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Well her indoors has negotiated a four year old X5 - full of toys from electric heated comfort seats, sat nav, media, rear camera, pimp glass, seven seats, etc. 3.0d - one of the best diesel engines in the world.

Nice grey colour - and a tow bar - mmmmmm, trailer and racing car methinks!
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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 02:36 PM
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.... and a tow bar - mmmmmm, trailer and racing car methinks!
You mean 'Caravan'.
You pikey. (or the politically correct term - Caravan Utilising Nomadic Traveller)



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It's OK I reckon owning a flashy Porsche and a pimped up X5 with blacked out windows makes me a c*nt anyway
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X5, and get some winter tyres on it.

Track day in the RS, when we going
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Originally Posted by Trout
It's OK I reckon owning a flashy Porsche and a pimped up X5 with blacked out windows makes me a c*nt anyway
Tell me about it, I was described the other day at the golf club as the only fella he knew that had an animal for a family wagon and a weekend car as my daily, did I have a space shuttle as my weekender...
X5 4.6 IS Veeeee 8 and my WRX, he asked if I had shares in BP the cheeky sod.
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Originally Posted by P20SPD
X5, and get some winter tyres on it.

Track day in the RS, when we going
X5 arrives Friday (but like Zippy it would be cheaper to buy an old Patrol/Pathfinder than put winter tyres on the X5!!).

Track - totally agree - just need to get some time off from my daft job!
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Originally Posted by Trout
Having looked - the rear passengers in many mini/super-minis would be as close to the rear glass as the rear seats in the X5. They are titchy though, intended for occasional use with diddy passengers!

Yes, but that's why I wouldn't own a mini/supermini, (whatever a supermini is??)

They are for diddy passengers as you say but then diddy passengers are the most vulnerable.
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Originally Posted by Trout
X5 arrives Friday (but like Zippy it would be cheaper to buy an old Patrol/Pathfinder than put winter tyres on the X5!!).

Track - totally agree - just need to get some time off from my daft job!
You tried Kev?
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