Dazza9t9

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Right guys and Gals,

I am expecting some brief for this however...............

I am selling my Classic and considering what to get next. My thoughts are either a 2002 Bugeye WRX STI PPP or............. a Nissan Skyline R33 GTS-T.

I thought I had made my mind up with the Bugeye however last night I was taken out in my mates drift spec R33 and what a car.

I am just wanting to know peoples thoughts and experiences. Has anyone owned a skyline and a bug sti?

I have spoke to my mates who own skylines and obviously they are saying skyline for the strength and fun factor. People who now own scoobs are saying scoobs obviously! I have driven a STI bug and I have been a passaenger in a skyline, I am hoping to drive a skyline later today.

Most of my driving will be B road thrashing, I am wanting to get into the odd track day and I definately want to hit the RING at some point. If I did go to Skyline one of my mates runs drift what you drung days so I would try my hand at that.

So yeah........ like stated what are peoples experiences with both cars!!

tony de wonderful

Is the GTST modified in anyway?

The OEM suspension is pretty soft and it rolls a lot.

I've owned both classic STi and GTST.

To be honest the classic is better suited to our b roads, just because it is lighter and smaller. I don't really know about the bug eye though. The GTST isn't the barge it's detractors would like you to believe though, it's still quite a well balanced and capable car on the handling front IF it's got after market suspension/handling upgrades, and the HICAS removed/disabled.

I suppose ultimately it might come down to if you prefer RWD or AWD.

Gear Head

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Also, won't the Bugeye be a lot newer than the Skyline?
Standard GTS-T's are pretty slow to be honest.

Dazza9t9

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The skyline I am looking at is pretty standard however I would be modding it. I am mates with a drifter from BDC and he is an expert when it comes to R33 tuning.

Yeah the skyline will be about 1996 were the bug will be 2002

sonic93

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i had a 330 bhp gtst this year had brand new japspeed coilovers ect handled alot better but still feel very big and heavy felt slow compared to my 300 bhp type r.
But easy to get 400 plus on standard internals and box.


i do want a lil drift car tho i keep lookin for s13 s

sonic93

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o fuel boy r they bad

Dazza9t9

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thanks sonic, regards to fuel my mate said he is getting up to 300miles for £70 on long drive. If this is the case tbh it compares to my classic which I am getting 200miles per full tank for £60

What were you getting sonic?

tony de wonderful

Fuel is no worse than on my classic STi.

Fantom

The skyline will cost you a bomb in mods. My brother got his up to 400bhp but the turbo went. Rebuilt with steel internals and then it went again.
I guess it depends what power you want to run. He got 350bhp quite easy but its gonna cost.
They are pretty heavy but with the right power they really shift.

Dazza9t9

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I am quite interested in the driving dynamics really, what they are like driving along b roads and just normal driving.

Modding is not really a big issue as my mate is a skyline expert so he will help with that

Fantom

Unfortunately I never drove it as I'm 6'5 and didn't really fit

sonicvr6

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i've done the skyline think it was bulletproof grate run but small in the back no good when you got kids

sonic93

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I remember gettin like 17 mpg on motorway and once driving like a *** around town and few b road blasts 12 lol. I would say alot more comfort than scoob nice to drive on long runs but for a b road blast type r drive one and see. My skyline was reliable how long I had it they do feel fast as there quite smooth power they just don't deliver the power like a scoob either do they very diff cars

sonicvr6

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you know what i miss my golf

sonic93

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yea that right good drivers car lol. What 1 u have?

sonicvr6

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the one in the pic mk3 vr6 shell syncro convertion with r32 bottom end spent about 12k on her










was to stiff i the end for my bad back and yes thats 18's on a mk3

sonic93

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very nice i like it was it quick? brakes couldnt of stopped u to well lol

Dazza9t9

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Nice golf!

sonicvr6

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it was about 350bhp so was quick and them brakes was good there off a tt nightmare getting big brakes for a mk3

thanks i do miss it but the 360bhp sti on me drive make's up for it had no chose really couldnt drive it any more with my back the sti's not half as stiff you see took my scoob in part ex against her

Martin 2010

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to make a gts-t a fun a lively car your gonna want some where near 400bhp as they so big heavy n lazy compared to a classic. from what ive always been told how ever never owned one, if you fancie rwd then mayb look at gettin a 200sx easy enough to get to 400bhp again and would wipe the floor with a 400 r33.

Dazza9t9

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Martin, I have a lot of experiences with 200sx and I do love them. However a good friend of mine is a BDC drifter and has a R33 therefore he knows them inside out and can help ALOT with tuning.

Plus the R33 has the 2.5 6pot engine.

sonic93

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s14 s awww i love them so much so mean looking

Dazza9t9

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I think you mean S14A. yeah i love them too, I send a mis-spent summer stripping them for a mates breakers yard, so I litrally know them inside out.

My mate had a 300bhp one it was stunning, not a fan of the leather interior mind.

sonicvr6

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you could just do a rwd conversion on your scoob ?

Dazza9t9

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funny you should say that! I was looking at that last night

My classic is going, I am then going to see how I feel. It will either be a R33 GTS-T or a 2002 WRX STI PPP.

At the moment I think it will be the Bugeye, focusing on suspension and handling for a nice handling fast road weapon.

Part of me does have a skyline itch tho!

sonicvr6

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i what the hole hog on one before i got my golf was a r32 gt-r single turbo convertion running around 600bhp and you know what would never have another had 3 bug eye's the 1st one was a 2002 wrx ppp brand new out the box 1st day i had it back from having the ppp fitted cos you had to run them in 1st i got left for dead at the light's by a cav turbo gave the car to the mrs the next day

Dazza9t9

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so sonic you would not recommend bugeyes either? or are you saying skylines are worth a look?

why would you not look at a skyline again? I am very interested in peoples experiences!


Its been a really good read, I have spoke to people who had scoobs now have skylines and they say they would never go back to scoobs. Then you speak to people who had skylines and now have a scoob they say they would never have another skyline

sonicvr6

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have a look at the skyline i know i'll never have another one cos the cost it was just a money pit and was never relabel in any way and the kids didnt fit and i just well those days are done as for the bug eye i found it slow and heavy but love my classic

Dazza9t9

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cheers bud, I will have a look at both cars once my car has sold

sonicvr6

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dont let me put you off the bug eye to much mate and as for the skyline depends just how deep your pockets are