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What van
Need a reliable, and cheap to run van, but not a transit, as its too big. Needs to be able to fit a single go kart in the back.
Im thinking maybe a berlingo or something like that?
Budget is 2k.
Im thinking maybe a berlingo or something like that?
Budget is 2k.
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Ive ran a 1.9D Berlingo for 3 years now and it hasnt missed a beat,very reliable and about 430-450 out of a tank of diesel.
Only costs have been tyres and servicing,the servicing is something thats DIY so only part costs.
Only costs have been tyres and servicing,the servicing is something thats DIY so only part costs.
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You don't state a budget, but the Peugeot Expert is prob ideal, bigger than a astra type and smaller than a transit.
Renault Traffic swb is another option, but more of less same size as a transit.
Renault Traffic swb is another option, but more of less same size as a transit.
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Lots and lots over your budget but what about this for a sleeper style van?
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I had a Berlingo 2.0 HDI there for a while, brilliant van, nippy and very easy on fuel. Hard to beat the Berlingos/Partner vans, they're very reliable and dont usually give any trouble.
Mines was one of the blue ex British Gas vans and came with full history, low miles and fully plastic lined and shelved in the back, bargain
Mines was one of the blue ex British Gas vans and came with full history, low miles and fully plastic lined and shelved in the back, bargain
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I'd go for a Fiat Scudo, or the equivalent Puegot/Citroen model, iv'e had a Berlingo and a Kart won't fit in the back easily, you'll soon get hacked of with having to take the pods and wheels off everytime you want to put it in the back, and theres no room for any tools or spares
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As above said, you wont get a kart in a berlingo sized van(not without a struggle and putting it on its side!) For your budget, you should be able to get a Peugeot Expert sized van ( still smaller than swb Transit) with that 2.0 hdi engine. Forget the VWs as there overpriced (ex AA vans) and overated
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Would recommend against the Peugeot Boxer van! A mate has one, and he's had so many issues with it it's just not funny! He's currently in the process of taking legal action to try and get his money back.
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Certainly earned its money .Tonnes of shat to tip over the years .
500 plus to tank full when on a good run .2 ltr diesel .
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£2k would get you a 2000-2001 vito 108/110cdi with lowish milage
low rear step & twin side doors,nice to drive & good on fuel
just look for any colour but white( white seems to rust on side doors)
low rear step & twin side doors,nice to drive & good on fuel
just look for any colour but white( white seems to rust on side doors)
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Gotta disagree on the comment about the VW's - got an M-reg transporter I use for work that's made it to 200k and is still going strong. Had a few probs with it last year but only due to basically wearing out. Been relatively cheap to fix and maintain and even now is still pretty nice to drive - I travel all over the country for work so comfort is important!
The 2nd van we have is a pain in the backside - Merc Sprinter medium wheel base - needed something a bit bigger for some of the jobs we do. It's the top spec one for it's year (02) so it's pretty quick for a van but maintenance is dear, parts prices are offensive, the traction control system on it sucks and if you make use of it's ability to crack 100mph (on private roads of course ) then the mpg goes through the floor. They're also known for problems with the header pumps (can vouch for that one since the one on mine split its casing and pi$$ed diesel all over the engine bay whilst driving) and with the injectors. Both those problems come with harsh price tags too (fortunately mine had 2 weeks left on the warranty when the pump went so I got away with it!!!).
Mate had a Vito that he was using primarily to go fishing. Sold it after 6months having replaced a knackered turbo only to have one of the injectors fail a week later - Mercs recommendation is to replace the full set as once one goes, the rest will follow shortly after ... Nice!!!!
The 2nd van we have is a pain in the backside - Merc Sprinter medium wheel base - needed something a bit bigger for some of the jobs we do. It's the top spec one for it's year (02) so it's pretty quick for a van but maintenance is dear, parts prices are offensive, the traction control system on it sucks and if you make use of it's ability to crack 100mph (on private roads of course ) then the mpg goes through the floor. They're also known for problems with the header pumps (can vouch for that one since the one on mine split its casing and pi$$ed diesel all over the engine bay whilst driving) and with the injectors. Both those problems come with harsh price tags too (fortunately mine had 2 weeks left on the warranty when the pump went so I got away with it!!!).
Mate had a Vito that he was using primarily to go fishing. Sold it after 6months having replaced a knackered turbo only to have one of the injectors fail a week later - Mercs recommendation is to replace the full set as once one goes, the rest will follow shortly after ... Nice!!!!
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Gotta disagree on the comment about the VW's - got an M-reg transporter I use for work that's made it to 200k and is still going strong. Had a few probs with it last year but only due to basically wearing out. Been relatively cheap to fix and maintain and even now is still pretty nice to drive - I travel all over the country for work so comfort is important!
The 2nd van we have is a pain in the backside - Merc Sprinter medium wheel base - needed something a bit bigger for some of the jobs we do. It's the top spec one for it's year (02) so it's pretty quick for a van but maintenance is dear, parts prices are offensive, the traction control system on it sucks and if you make use of it's ability to crack 100mph (on private roads of course ) then the mpg goes through the floor. They're also known for problems with the header pumps (can vouch for that one since the one on mine split its casing and pi$$ed diesel all over the engine bay whilst driving) and with the injectors. Both those problems come with harsh price tags too (fortunately mine had 2 weeks left on the warranty when the pump went so I got away with it!!!).
Mate had a Vito that he was using primarily to go fishing. Sold it after 6months having replaced a knackered turbo only to have one of the injectors fail a week later - Mercs recommendation is to replace the full set as once one goes, the rest will follow shortly after ... Nice!!!!
The 2nd van we have is a pain in the backside - Merc Sprinter medium wheel base - needed something a bit bigger for some of the jobs we do. It's the top spec one for it's year (02) so it's pretty quick for a van but maintenance is dear, parts prices are offensive, the traction control system on it sucks and if you make use of it's ability to crack 100mph (on private roads of course ) then the mpg goes through the floor. They're also known for problems with the header pumps (can vouch for that one since the one on mine split its casing and pi$$ed diesel all over the engine bay whilst driving) and with the injectors. Both those problems come with harsh price tags too (fortunately mine had 2 weeks left on the warranty when the pump went so I got away with it!!!).
Mate had a Vito that he was using primarily to go fishing. Sold it after 6months having replaced a knackered turbo only to have one of the injectors fail a week later - Mercs recommendation is to replace the full set as once one goes, the rest will follow shortly after ... Nice!!!!
as they have all done the same work
you would'nt just change one set of brake pads that were worn when the other side had 1-2mil left you would change them all at the same time
or would you just change 1 injector on an impreza if that failed?
we run a fleet of vito's all from 06-59 each one averaging around 40-60k
per year other than servicing & tyres we have had no problems
& they all still look good after a good wash,no rips on the interior.
to me & work they are the perfect mid size van. thats why we buy them
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I wasn't questioning the logic of replacing them chris, I was merely stating Mercs advise.
Not sure I'd compare replacing them to brake pads though considering even a reconditioned set of injectors is going to cost upwards of £400 plus £50 for the taiwan knock off tool (or £200+ for the genuine merc one) to get the injectors in and out if you fancy doing it yourself. Personally I'm not a big fan of recon parts when it comes to things like injectors though and I'd far rather not have to work on the van myself (it's hard enough finding the time to work on my scooby nevermind the vans! ) so I'd be expecting a far more sizeable bill
That plus there's the recovery fee if you don't have aa/rac etc for the nightmare of if an injector fails when you're not at home and the engine management shuts down
Considering the Vito and the Sprinter are both known for eating injectors I just thought I'd let the OP know. Obviously our servicing costs on the Sprinter go through the business books as I've no doubt your Vito fleet ones do too but that's the key point - you and I have business budgets to cover the costs which, with Mercs can get very high when something does go wrong. On that basis, personally I wouldn't consider having one as a domestic use that I was looking to cover out of my own pocket but that's only my opinion.
Not sure I'd compare replacing them to brake pads though considering even a reconditioned set of injectors is going to cost upwards of £400 plus £50 for the taiwan knock off tool (or £200+ for the genuine merc one) to get the injectors in and out if you fancy doing it yourself. Personally I'm not a big fan of recon parts when it comes to things like injectors though and I'd far rather not have to work on the van myself (it's hard enough finding the time to work on my scooby nevermind the vans! ) so I'd be expecting a far more sizeable bill
That plus there's the recovery fee if you don't have aa/rac etc for the nightmare of if an injector fails when you're not at home and the engine management shuts down
Considering the Vito and the Sprinter are both known for eating injectors I just thought I'd let the OP know. Obviously our servicing costs on the Sprinter go through the business books as I've no doubt your Vito fleet ones do too but that's the key point - you and I have business budgets to cover the costs which, with Mercs can get very high when something does go wrong. On that basis, personally I wouldn't consider having one as a domestic use that I was looking to cover out of my own pocket but that's only my opinion.
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Used to fit my go-kart in an astra van but got a pug expert 2.0 HDI now and its quite simply a brilliant van.
600 to the tank and as much torque as a uk scoobie.
So nice to drive,its like driving a car....
600 to the tank and as much torque as a uk scoobie.
So nice to drive,its like driving a car....
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I'd go for a Fiat Scudo, or the equivalent Puegot/Citroen model, iv'e had a Berlingo and a Kart won't fit in the back easily, you'll soon get hacked of with having to take the pods and wheels off everytime you want to put it in the back, and theres no room for any tools or spares
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