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Old 03 October 2009, 10:16 AM
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Red face GTR Depreciation

Seems to be taking hold. A lot of cars for sale and they are now coming down into the £40ks.

There can't be that many cars in the UK and there are at least thirty for sale. If I had waited I may have used the GT3 money to get one.

In the time I have owned the GT3 the value as remained unchanged and the GTRs have gone from £55k to £45k for an early 2008 model!
Old 03 October 2009, 10:35 AM
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Class counts..... I'd like one of each !

LOL

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Old 03 October 2009, 10:44 AM
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Perhaps the grey import 2008 models are being knocked in value by UK 2009 cars? I think the UK car is a bargain considering its performance and depreciation of the pound.
Old 03 October 2009, 10:50 AM
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Who cares...

Drive now, worry later.

If you want what you want, now, its going to cost you.......if you worry about how much its going to cost, then wait until everyones got one, then there will be something else.
Old 03 October 2009, 10:50 AM
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Still an Ugly ******* car though. Pass a Black one sometimes on a morning. If I had the money, I'd still pay almost double for a 911 Turbo.
Old 03 October 2009, 11:00 AM
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Yep, ugly as ****....





Actually makes my Shogun look " good looking."
Old 03 October 2009, 11:14 AM
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jeez id rather be seen in one of them than a porch turbo , sorry


- of course some people feel more secure paying double for the same thing
Old 03 October 2009, 11:25 AM
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The Gt3 and GTR are on different points of the depreciation curve though, so not sure that comparison is valid.

The looks seem to divide opinion - depending on age
Old 03 October 2009, 11:52 AM
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I think they are ugly aswell, i would still have one though, i suppose i could live with it
Old 03 October 2009, 12:40 PM
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I'd rather have one than a RWD Porsche, to be honest.

Old 03 October 2009, 12:51 PM
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That's a bit unfair as GT3's do depreciate down to about £40k then tend to stick at that for remainder of their days! GTR will probably be the same ...

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Originally Posted by Trout
In the time I have owned the GT3 the value as remained unchanged and the GTRs have gone from £55k to £45k for an early 2008 model!
Old 03 October 2009, 02:06 PM
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It is not unfair to the £40k odd I have invested in my GT3 though so all this talk of depreciation curves comes to nought when it is real money in your pocket.

The GTR is a much quicker car though, even compared to the finest RWD car under £100k every made
Old 03 October 2009, 02:47 PM
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My guess is that they are imported GTRs falling down as the UK ones are now on the market.

In regard to depreciation, well that's a fact of life and you always pay to play. A new impreza will lose the best part of 45% of it value in 3 years, i would still expect to get the same if not even more deprection on the GTR as the maintence costs are higher, however i would imagine in 3 years a well looked after example should still fetch circa £30k so that is acceptable to me. It's only money, you cant take it with you once your dead, but you can have a huge smile on your face while you're alive!

However glad mine is a UK model as engine and transmission lights came on yesterday so guess it'll need to go the HPC and i know i am covered, not so much luck for those crimping on a cheaper import!
Old 03 October 2009, 02:50 PM
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£10k isn't much to lose in 18 months on a car of that value. They're also performing above their predicted curve.
Old 03 October 2009, 03:01 PM
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I actually think they look great, whilst i dont think they're a pretty car i think they have a great road presence and look aggressive and intimidating.

A car can look pretty but for me not desirable i.e. the new Audi TT, the GTR whilst not pretty is very desirable and looks the part.

Definetely looks a lot better in the flesh.
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Alloy said: "However glad mine is a UK model as engine and transmission lights came on yesterday so guess it'll need to go the HPC and i know i am covered, not so much luck for those crimping on a cheaper import!"

If you want a fast car, buy the real thing as our Japanese friends designed it.

Not a watered down EU friendly model, that has been strangled by some bloke wearing sandles and a mohair rope dyed tanktop.



As for warranty, I would say that 70% of all GT-R owners have mods that would void warranty anyway, OK they may be bolt on bolt off, but there you have it.
Old 03 October 2009, 05:46 PM
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There are only two R35 in the 10s on the quarter so far in Europe - one (the slightly faster one) is a UK car, the second fastest is JDM, only a whisker away but using launch control. Same mapper , although only the UK car the time of the runs had improvements to boost control logic, UK has intercooler, JDM has actuators.

There really is no significant difference between them.
Old 03 October 2009, 06:01 PM
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QUOTE: There really is no significant difference between them.


Mine has got better tyres, and you know it.
Old 03 October 2009, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by yoza

If you want a fast car, buy the real thing as our Japanese friends designed it.

Not a watered down EU friendly model, that has been strangled by some bloke wearing sandles and a mohair rope dyed tanktop.

Didn't the UK cars have some improvements over the MY08 JDM cars? Also i recall an additional whole 5bhp(or PS) i forget......
Old 03 October 2009, 06:23 PM
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I'd take your tyres when it is raining and mine when it is dry yoza.

But given that the West coast gets all the rain dumped on it...
Old 03 October 2009, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by john banks
There are only two R35 in the 10s on the quarter so far in Europe - one (the slightly faster one) is a UK car, the second fastest is JDM, only a whisker away but using launch control. Same mapper , although only the UK car the time of the runs had improvements to boost control logic, UK has intercooler, JDM has actuators.

There really is no significant difference between them.
Is that Jurgen's?
Old 03 October 2009, 09:32 PM
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Yes Although it isn't second fastest because it is JDM
Old 04 October 2009, 06:55 PM
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Do you know anything about this car John, they sound Russian.

YouTube - (HD) GT-R Switzer P800 vs Hayabusa (0-300 Kmh)
Old 04 October 2009, 07:09 PM
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GTR is an awesome car, and i think it looks fantastic.

However, GT3 all day for me.

Also (and slightly off topic) i have spoken to several people who have decided against the GTR, as Nissan seem to be so strick with the warranty and they are wondering why they are being so strick?

I know of one guy who didn't run the engine in (yep, his own fault, and could happen to any car) and the engine blew after 800 miles.
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Originally Posted by Moley_WRX
GTR is an awesome car, and i think it looks fantastic.

However, GT3 all day for me.

Also (and slightly off topic) i have spoken to several people who have decided against the GTR, as Nissan seem to be so strick with the warranty and they are wondering why they are being so strick?

I know of one guy who didn't run the engine in (yep, his own fault, and could happen to any car) and the engine blew after 800 miles.
If your worried about warranty, buy an import, no worries.

STRICT.
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Originally Posted by bluenose172
Do you know anything about this car John, they sound Russian.

YouTube - (HD) GT-R Switzer P800 vs Hayabusa (0-300 Kmh)
Uprated gearbox parts are available, but no one so far has sorted out the 0.15mm thick liners which can peel at TDC with high outputs. Switzer's work is good, but I think the power figures are optimistic.
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Originally Posted by yoza
STRICT.
Ooops, been a very long day, so you'll have to let me off with that one.
Old 04 October 2009, 08:17 PM
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I shouldnt really correct anybody as Im illegitimate.
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Originally Posted by Moley_WRX
GTR is an awesome car, and i think it looks fantastic.

However, GT3 all day for me.

Also (and slightly off topic) i have spoken to several people who have decided against the GTR, as Nissan seem to be so strick with the warranty and they are wondering why they are being so strick?

I know of one guy who didn't run the engine in (yep, his own fault, and could happen to any car) and the engine blew after 800 miles.
no mass manufactured vehicle should be blowing its engine in 800 miles. Dont these engines get bench tested?
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Originally Posted by V5RVLTD
I think they are ugly aswell, i would still have one though, i suppose i could live with it
I would like to amend my remarks. I thought they ugly till i saw one in the flesh today. It was gun metal grey and looked absolutely stunning. Everyone who walked past it was staring!


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