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Old 30 September 2009, 03:42 PM
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Default To rent ofr buy, that is the question

That's not actually the question
'To rent OR buy' that is the question

I am doing about 900 miles per week at the moment, I have been renting a car for the last few weeks while I decide what to buy.

However it has got me thinking.

Let's say I need to rent a car for 40 weeks of the year.

Cost to rent Hertz 'D' class car (mondeo): £100 pw
I get a free upgrade to what ever they have as I am a President's Circle member, so this usually means a Merc / Passat etc, so a pretty nice car to be in.
Fuel @ £100 is a fair estimate.
Years cost = 8k

However I can take this money straight out of my business account, i.e. before I take Tax and NI etc off of it. So in reality the 8k cost is probably nearer 5k cost to me.

I will do about 40k miles per year.

If I buy a car, I have the initial outlay of say 10k, servicing, tyres, insurance anything else that goes wrong.
Estimate a total of 15k over 3 years.

Both appear to work out around about the same cost for 3 years worth of driving, however this will mean putting 120k miles on Hertz cars instead of a car of my own.

Renting seems to be the way to go.

Can you see any glaring mistakes in my logic????
Old 30 September 2009, 04:15 PM
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Rent rent rent! All so if anything ever goes wrong with the car they just give you another one, simple
Old 30 September 2009, 05:59 PM
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Business lease is surely the way to go if you're happy with one car.

£400+ a month on a Mondeo is madness IMO.

Buying and sticking 40k a year on your own car would also be madness I feel
Old 30 September 2009, 06:32 PM
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Ok, any idea where I can get a Business Car Lease, full maintenance inc tyres, servicing, insurance, brakes etc, 40k miles per year for less than £400 pm?

No chance I fear.

I would love to be wrong however.
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This women was on Dragons den a while back
FORD MONDEO LEASING CHEAP NEW MONDEO ESTATE LEASE DIESEL CONTRACT HIRE Fiesta Focus C-MAX Focus Coupe Cabriolet Estate Fusion Kuga S-Max
Seems pretty cheap
Old 30 September 2009, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Timwinner
Only for a fairly boggo Mondeo auto it will cost £450 pm for only 20k miles pa.
I can't imagine any leasing company letting you do 40k miles pa without a very heavy penalty.
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I dont know a lot about the car lease issues, I just remembered some crazy women form china or something on dragons den.

Although I just worked out that you can get a BMW 3 series, pay the additional mileage (assuming it will be 20k extra a year) and come in at close to the 400 squid budget. Plus side is if the miles are lower than 900 a week the cost will go down!
Of course if you do more......

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If I just get one from Hertz, this solves all the problems
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But shes from China......china..... Its exotic!!
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Don't really understand the point of this thread, seem you already know the answers
Old 01 October 2009, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by bugeyeandy
Don't really understand the point of this thread, seem you already know the answers
oooooooooo, touchy :P
Old 01 October 2009, 10:30 AM
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That ling site right robbery lease a range sport 40 grand for 3 years wtf ..Then you dont own ****e no matter how many miles its got on it rather own something with 120k on it than nothing..

Buy a merc diesel they do 4-500k easy with good servicing get mint sl230 for 10k last you life time ..
Old 01 October 2009, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by BIG FUD
That ling site right robbery lease a range sport 40 grand for 3 years wtf ..Then you dont own ****e no matter how many miles its got on it rather own something with 120k on it than nothing..

Buy a merc diesel they do 4-500k easy with good servicing get mint sl230 for 10k last you life time ..
Come back when you've worked out the finance cost plus depreciation on a Range Rover Sport over 3 years. If you change your car every 3 years anyway, it can be cheaper leasing. If you want to keep a car forever, buy it.
Old 01 October 2009, 05:36 PM
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Ling the mentalist?!? Not a f*cking chance!
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I lease a CTR for £260 a month with 10k per year. Excess mileage is 3ppm inc vat. So for an additional 30k miles a year thats £900 = £75 per month. Im sure it didnt mention a max mileage but Im sure they wouldnt be best pleased if I return it after 2 yrs with 80k on the clock lol.

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P1, Where did you get that deal?
Old 02 October 2009, 01:50 PM
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That was via Honda Finance. My girlfriends cousin is a honda salesman but he couldnt get a discount - however did manage to get me an MY09 model (few gadgets over the '08 model everyone else was leasing). When I was looking months earlier people were getting them for just over £200pm inc vat for a GT. I checked last month and most are over £300 now. Assume it was due to Honda having a load of MY08 models to shift (as all the lease companies get their cars from Honda Finance anyhow).

Never even thought of leasing until I joined a Type R forum and saw some of the deals. Seemed much better than sticking £18k+ into a depreciating asset and can change my car more often and keep my money in savings. No hassle with p/ex or private sale. Just hand it back and get another or keep it longer at reduced rate.

Simon
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Originally Posted by hail-hail
oooooooooo, touchy :P
me touchy

Good luck with the search, i'm glad it's not me doing all those miles though. Most i've done in a year was 35k and that was a one off.
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