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Old Jul 6, 2009 | 10:01 PM
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From 4x4's to supercars, which you reckon is frowned upon & which is admired ?.Makes all the difference to who is driving them at the time of ownership ofcourse.My list is

Admired:
Bristol Brigend, Blenhiem etc.
All Morgans
Vanwall
AC Cobra, AC Ace
Jaguars ( apparently very polite drivers ), but do have the wiff of the London Gangster thing though shame
Triumph Spitfire & TR's except TR7 one of the ugliest on the road.
Austin Healey Frogeye, 100/6, 3000 etc
80's & 90's Aston Martin Vantages including limited editions
Ariel Atoms
All Lotus cars
Alfa Romeo 159
Dodge Charger, Challenger & Viper
Shelby Mustang GT500KR, 67 Shelby Cobra
Mk2 Escort BDA = working class hero


These are or were not cool:
Sales rep cars BM's, VW's, Audi's etc.
Footballers cars ( RR Phantoms, Escalades, 430 spiders etc )
Software mens runabouts = tit behind steering wheel
Nutters in L200's who almost sideswipe cars
Mafia scum in all black 4x4's & the rest of their favorite cars

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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 10:30 AM
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Does it have to be 50 years old to be unaminously cool?

Quite a serious question really. New Porsche = flash **** (unless it's me of course ) but old Porsche = global cool. I didn't get an Escort Cosworth because of the outrageous image (well, partly ) but now I'd love one. And jumping ahead a bit, people have been known to spit on an M3, but give that 20 years and it's going to be a classic for sure.
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 11:45 AM
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Petrol heads may think an old porsche is cool, but most of everyone else thinks flash **** without the flash cash.
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 11:55 AM
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The age is irrelevent, you can mention an Austin 7 if you think it's cool Hoppy.
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 12:10 PM
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Rabbos have you seen the recent prices, of 70's RS Porsches ? minimum price is £70k+ now.
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 12:11 PM
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I will agree with you there Nat.The DB5 car chase with an F355 spider in Goldeneye, was reasonable.

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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 12:22 PM
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Classic shape Minis and Beetles. Cant see how anyone could hate them.
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 12:27 PM
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Classic shape Minis and Beetles. Cant see how anyone could hate them.
Hmmm, not sure I completely agree - I dont like old shape beetles as they're too 'cool' and trendy. That also goes for those dreadful vw campers that are always driven by wanabe surfer dudes - gah

How about a 2CV? I'd probably hate it if I had to drive it, but I've never heard of or seen any hatred flung in their direction by others. Pity or laughter maybe, but no hatred

...and obviously everybody hates porsches (unless they've got one)

Rabbos, you're spot on, old porsches are just sooooo cheap, i'll have 3 Just look at the bargain 993t!

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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 12:41 PM
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Any Aston
Escort Cosworths
Sierra Cosworths (3 Door)
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 12:44 PM
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Old Beetles are utter cr4p. Slow, terrible handling, dangerous. A friends mum hit a tree in one at low speed and died - almost any other car and she would have been fine. The "cool" surfer image makes them even worse.

Disagree about Astons - while I like some of them, £100K+++ was/is a bit steep for a car with shoddy old Ford parts. The interiors of DB7s is genuinely shocking.

Mk 1 Escort must be a contender?

Agree with most of the rest of the list apart from the Alfa 159 - another overpriced Vauxhall in drag (like Saabs).

Also all Lotus - the Eclat, the Elite and the Europa were total turd.

Let's not forget the uR Quattro and Delta Integrale.
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 12:48 PM
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Interesting you pick out the Escort as a working class car but then diss a sales rep car, surely the new working class car.
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 12:51 PM
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Matteeboy, he was talking about image and whether a particular car offended anyone, not crashworthiness, performance, handling or whether it was any good.

Saabs, like I have, are generally fairly neutral, no great statement, usually driven fairly meekly, not too expensive to incite envy and most people arent aware its a poshed up Vectra.

A lot of people arent interested, they are just cars, some are noisy, some look expensive, some look cheap, some are red, some are blue, to some people they may as well be fridges or washers for all the interest they have, except for Range Rover Sports, even the non interested parties think you look a ****.
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 12:53 PM
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According to a handful of the E30zone lot, a Renault Grand Scenic is pretty hateful!
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 12:55 PM
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My computing A level teacher had a MkII RS2000

Yes he was an annoying shortarsed Brummy ***** who knew nothing about programming except for QBasic

Yes it was Beige

Yes the bootlid spoiler had turned to sponge

But the car was still regarded as cool, and he got a smidgen of respect and admiration for that. Everyone hated him, but nodody hated the car despite its horrid colour.
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Mk1 Escort Mexico definatly and rally specced Mk1's.Yeah the first Audi Quattro turbo is cool and was helped along by DCI Gene Hunt.What about the Delta S4 too ?.
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 01:09 PM
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What i meant to say there is the sales reps and the ***** who drive them.
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ScooByer Trade
From 4x4's to supercars, which you reckon is frowned upon & which is admired ?.Makes all the difference to who is driving them at the time of ownership ofcourse.My list is

Admired:
Bristol Brigend, Blenhiem etc. Yes
All Morgans No any car with a wood chassis is a no no in my eyes
Vanwall Yes
AC Cobra, AC Ace A genuine or a v good fake then yes - most of the tatty replicas no
Jaguars ( apparently very polite drivers ), but do have the wiff of the London Gangster thing though shame X-type Jag really ?? Ford Mondeo in drag !
Triumph Spitfire & TR's except TR7 one of the ugliest on the road. Cool as it overheats in the road side - Err no !
Austin Healey Frogeye, 100/6, 3000 etc Yes
80's & 90's Aston Martin Vantages including limited editions Yes
Ariel Atoms - Kind of- but probably look a **** driving it on the public road - bit like a Catherham
All Lotus cars No
Alfa Romeo 159 No
Dodge Charger, Challenger & Viper - In the States Ok but over here - too big
Shelby Mustang GT500KR, 67 Shelby Cobra Yes
Mk2 Escort BDA = working class hero Just cant see the appeal - Never have !


These are or were not cool:
Sales rep cars BM's, VW's, Audi's etc. NO
Footballers cars ( RR Phantoms, Escalades, 430 spiders etc ) agree especially the Escalades
Software mens runabouts = tit behind steering wheel
Nutters in L200's who almost sideswipe cars
Mafia scum in all black 4x4's & the rest of their favorite cars
Isnt this the same as the Longon Jaguar gangster image ?
My thoughts added

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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 01:18 PM
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I always thought they drive XJ12s with tinted windows.Also mk2 Jags too.

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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 01:27 PM
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subaru legacy.

either no one knows what they are, or if you do, you love them.

I'd probably also say MX5's and the BMW mini seem to be universally loved

surely the golf gti, from series 1 is a contender ?

don't know about mk one escorts etc etc- I'm old enough to remember they were crap when new, as were mk 2's, mk 3's etc
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The first Golf Gti hatch is cool.The BMW Mini i think is genuinely loved and cool.MX5 has genes from Lotus Elan so i agree.
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 01:54 PM
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The Fiat 500 & Abarth specced Fiats i'd say are cool.
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 01:57 PM
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Where would the Maclaren F1 and GTR be ?.
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 02:07 PM
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There are arguably very few truly "cool" cars, but I would think that an original Mini or original Fiat 500 would qualify
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 02:41 PM
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alfa spyder.

willis jeep

toyota hi-lux

all good !
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Nat21
Any Aston.
Agree my brother has a V8 Vantage Volante, never had a negative response when I have been out in it, just smiles thumbs up etc, nice to see !
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
Matteeboy, he was talking about image and whether a particular car offended anyone, not crashworthiness, performance, handling or whether it was any good.

Saabs, like I have, are generally fairly neutral, no great statement, usually driven fairly meekly, not too expensive to incite envy and most people arent aware its a poshed up Vectra.

A lot of people arent interested, they are just cars, some are noisy, some look expensive, some look cheap, some are red, some are blue, to some people they may as well be fridges or washers for all the interest they have, except for Range Rover Sports, even the non interested parties think you look a ****.
Well I think the image of the Beetle is cack then. Same with the old dub campers. Driven by muppets that think they are cool - they aren't.

Original Fiat 500 Abarth is very very cool as is the Jenson Interceptor, Porsche 356 (a posh Beetle but SO much better), any pre 1975 Ferrari and the BMW 2002.
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my 1964 Mk1 Morris Cooper 970s
Mk1 Lotus Cortina's
Series 1/2 Landies
Land Rover 90''s
Datsun 240z
and the classic landcruiser fj40
-- and most modern Fords, I think they look really cool at the moment
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Lotus Carlton, E34 Alpina B10 Bi turbo.I was going to mention the Lotus Cortina.Vauxhall Chevette HS & Lotus Sunbeam even if the Sunbeam rotted worse than a week old pear.

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3.0ltr CSL Batmobile.BMW E3 4dr in black with all chromework = sinister.
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