R20 or RS3 or Focus RS or Sti 330
06 April 2009, 06:47 PM
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Well guess this is a theoretical question as the R20 and the RS3 are not out yet, but from a desirable / long term prospect / residuals then I think it would be one of the german pair.
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06 April 2009, 07:19 PM
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RS3 will be £35k+ with Options. 300-340BHP depends if they detune it.
R20 will be VW Audi S3. Very nice though. And owning a Golf now, I can see the desirability of a AWD 2.0T Golf. £30k with Options
Focus RS. Probably fastest out of all of them once rolling. £25k upto £27k fully loaded. Plus Ford Warranty backed Tuning kit soon available.
STI330. Look ****.
Ford, VW & Audi will hold value well. Maybe the Ford being best due to low volume and possible the last ever RS.
The Subaru will lose half it's value within 12 months.
Ford is the best value and maybe the quickest.
Audi will be very nice, fast but maybe overpriced.
R20 will be the best all round option. Not too expensive. Decent mpg compared to the RS & RS3, anbd will make a very nice every day car. Just not as desirable as the Ford & Audi.
I'd go for the Ford.
R20 will be VW Audi S3. Very nice though. And owning a Golf now, I can see the desirability of a AWD 2.0T Golf. £30k with Options
Focus RS. Probably fastest out of all of them once rolling. £25k upto £27k fully loaded. Plus Ford Warranty backed Tuning kit soon available.
STI330. Look ****.
Ford, VW & Audi will hold value well. Maybe the Ford being best due to low volume and possible the last ever RS.
The Subaru will lose half it's value within 12 months.
Ford is the best value and maybe the quickest.
Audi will be very nice, fast but maybe overpriced.
R20 will be the best all round option. Not too expensive. Decent mpg compared to the RS & RS3, anbd will make a very nice every day car. Just not as desirable as the Ford & Audi.
I'd go for the Ford.
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07 April 2009, 10:06 AM
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RS without a doubt, its the only one you wont loose a fortune on and the RS3 will probbaly cost 5k more new.
anyone got a spare 120k lying about and we can buy all these cars and see which one is best? now that would fun!
anyone got a spare 120k lying about and we can buy all these cars and see which one is best? now that would fun!
07 April 2009, 11:44 AM
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RS out of that bunch for sure.
I am looking at a new car for April 2010, have had a good look at the Focus RS, but i think i want to get away from that badboy hothatch look. Seriously looking at the new TT RS if it's on the right side of £40k when it's released. Map it and it will be on the back doors of it's bigger brother the R8.
I am looking at a new car for April 2010, have had a good look at the Focus RS, but i think i want to get away from that badboy hothatch look. Seriously looking at the new TT RS if it's on the right side of £40k when it's released. Map it and it will be on the back doors of it's bigger brother the R8.
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RS out of that bunch for sure.
I am looking at a new car for April 2010, have had a good look at the Focus RS, but i think i want to get away from that badboy hothatch look. Seriously looking at the new TT RS if it's on the right side of £40k when it's released. Map it and it will be on the back doors of it's bigger brother the R8.
I am looking at a new car for April 2010, have had a good look at the Focus RS, but i think i want to get away from that badboy hothatch look. Seriously looking at the new TT RS if it's on the right side of £40k when it's released. Map it and it will be on the back doors of it's bigger brother the R8.
If there is enough room to pull a few more PS out of it, then it is going to be a missile!
07 April 2009, 04:49 PM
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07 April 2009, 11:18 PM
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Jeremy Clarkson has driven the new Focus RS. What a suprise it torque like a bitch 
Jeremy Clarkson on the Ford Focus RS - This is hardcore - 2009 - BBC Top Gear
Jeremy Clarkson on the Ford Focus RS - This is hardcore - 2009 - BBC Top Gear
08 April 2009, 09:18 AM
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And cars like the Golf R20, Focus RS, RS3 etc, are on peoples shopping list rather than buying another Impreza.
Better designed, better built, and just as quick, if not quicker.
08 April 2009, 10:37 AM
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It is, yes. But poor design work on behalf of Subaru has turned once loyal impreza fans away from the marque.
And cars like the Golf R20, Focus RS, RS3 etc, are on peoples shopping list rather than buying another Impreza.
Better designed, better built, and just as quick, if not quicker.
And cars like the Golf R20, Focus RS, RS3 etc, are on peoples shopping list rather than buying another Impreza.
Better designed, better built, and just as quick, if not quicker.
08 April 2009, 10:51 AM
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I know production has been slowed by Ford which includes RS production. I know a few people (Via FRS owners club) that have had delivery dates put back several times.
Still debating about getting an RS. Really want to see how they put the power down on damp / wet roads first. If I go for one, I'll order about Christmas time for spring delivery, hopefully.
If the Montune kit is 360bhp, is second gear full bore acceleration just going to be wheelspin? Wet or dry?
08 April 2009, 10:57 AM
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It's damn ugly and has been pretty universally panned by the motoring press. You'd have to be brave to shell out nearly £30k on a car that does well under 20mpg, has the emissions of a coal fuelled power station and doesn't even seem to be all that great.
Compared to the rest which are mostly desirable, have done well in tests and are mostly cheaper.
Subaru missed a trick by holding off on diesels for so long. They are now missing another by designing something so grim looking. I think Subaru UK's days are numbered.
08 April 2009, 11:52 AM
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All I keep getting told is 'It will come when it comes'! My dealer can't even get me a brochure.
I have been following a thread on RSOC and all the delivery dates seem to be pure speculation. Truth is I don't think anyone knows when there car will come.
I have been following a thread on RSOC and all the delivery dates seem to be pure speculation. Truth is I don't think anyone knows when there car will come.
08 April 2009, 10:02 PM
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Weve just had a white one delivered today at our pdi centre checked the computer and there,s few green ones on order first impressions aint great just sounds like an st focus diffrent seat and a few diffrent skirts fitted will get a drive tommorow
08 April 2009, 10:58 PM
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It's damn ugly and has been pretty universally panned by the motoring press. You'd have to be brave to shell out nearly £30k on a car that does well under 20mpg, has the emissions of a coal fuelled power station and doesn't even seem to be all that great.
Compared to the rest which are mostly desirable, have done well in tests and are mostly cheaper.
Subaru missed a trick by holding off on diesels for so long. They are now missing another by designing something so grim looking. I think Subaru UK's days are numbered.
Compared to the rest which are mostly desirable, have done well in tests and are mostly cheaper.
Subaru missed a trick by holding off on diesels for so long. They are now missing another by designing something so grim looking. I think Subaru UK's days are numbered.
It wouldnt be too bad if is was a razor sharp driving tool like a Megane R26 or Focus RS but it isn't, hot hatches have moved the goal posts and Subaru have gone wayyyy backwards (jump in a nice sorted Classic and you'll know what i mean)
Like you said Subaru have cocked up big time and its a shame
