donniep

Hi,

I know someone who is selling their Xsara VTR, I was wondering if anyone ownes or has owned one & what they thought of it. It is meant to have the same engine as the Pug 306 GTI.

cheers

ScoobyJawa

The VTR doesn't have the same engine no, its the Xsara VTS which uses the 167bhp 306 GTI-6 lump, albeit with a 5 speed rather than a 6 speed.

Xsara VTR is a 306 XSi essentially, I'd have the pug!

dpb

I'd have the Xsara vtr, in fact i did - youll get a vaugley modern dash and steering wheel safety features and better performance /handling for engine size ,for less dosh

no contest really

Paulo P

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The VTR comes in 2 flavours, either a 1.6 8 valve or a 1.8 16 valve The VTS comes with the Peugeot engine the same as the GTI6 but it comes with a 5 speed box which is said to be better suited.

My sister has the 1.6 8 valve VTR and although it's underpowered it's a well built nice car

HankScorpio

Well built... french....
well built... french....
well built... french....

Nope, does not compute

(Although a freind of mine had a 205 in African spec and that was built like a tank)

Paulo P

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I know I would never own a french car because of the crap build quality but the xsara is a well built car. One of my friends owns an espace & it's crap, my youngest sister owns a 106 & it's broken, my mum owns a saxo & it's not been great and my dad had a 407 and it was a complete shed

I reckon Citroen fcuked up when they made it

donniep

Thanks for the info, I wasn't sure if it was the VTR or the VTS which had the Pug 306 GTI engine. I don't know why but I've always quite liked the Xsara although I'm not a huge fan of French cars except for the 205 gti. It seems from most of the replies that it's a decent enough car so I might keep a look out for a VTS.

What is the engine size is it a 1.8 16 valve or 2L 16 valve?
Is there a 5 door version?
Cheers

Matteeboy

AFAIK it was 1.8 then went to a 2.0 but not sure when.
It's not a bad car really - underrated so very cheap, pretty nippy (8 secs to 60) and handles well. if you can find one that won't fall to bits, it should be a bit of a steal.

Don't think it was made in 5 door.

Paulo P

iTrader: (42)

1.8 16 valve is a VTR (also available in 1.6 8 valve) and the 2 litre 16 valve is the VTS. Both were only available in 3 door.

mozzaITA

friend had a vts from new, countless problems ranging from mechanical, cat, whole wiring loom - hope you dont need it every day -that said was a nice fast drive.

donniep

Are these common problems with the xsara?

TonyBurns

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Your better off with a pug tbh, ok they are sister companies but for some reason peugeot always seem to have the edge over citroen
And the 6 speed box is better suited to the GTI-6 engine, it keeps it on the boil better
(oh and i have a 98 R 306 GTI for sale if your interested? )

Tony

ScoobyJawa

I would imagine so, my mate has had no end of issues with the electrics on his VTS!

dpb

Seems to be a fairly average glitch on some Citroen

did have to have indicator stalk replace on mine - wasnt a fortune tho

oh and all the instrument panel went off once across town ,even tho the car performed fine, fortunatley this never happened again tho .


Only actually replaced the consumables ie starter motor ( after much provocation on my part) and discs ( ****e to start with im afraid),pads in the whole 5 yhears i had it

Oh and dont pull too hard on the dood handles - mine came off in my hand and the door cards arnt really designed for a lot of taking off / putting on

vindaloo

Problem with the 306 is, if you are tall, you won't fit in it. I could just fit in my mate's XSi but I wouldn't like to drive it. I tried a 5 dr XSi and I couldn't find a driving position. For some reason the 5 doors are worse for headroom than the 3 doors.

J.