The new M3 is cack.
11 July 2007, 09:36 PM
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The new M3 is cack.
This is no lie, BMW have managed to mess it up. The new C63 AMG is meant to be rather good though, better than the RS4 and easily better than the new M3. Interesting to see if the RS5 will better the C63 AMG.
11 July 2007, 10:44 PM
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Get moving and there’s the kind of breathtaking acceleration AMG owners have come to expect. This time though it’s underpinned with an athleticism we’ve never seen in an AMG before.
The C63 is terrifically responsive, surprisingly communicative and adjustable on the limit – hardly how we’d describe its predecessor, whose bold engine dominated proceedings in such a way that it was ultimately to the detriment of the overall driving experience.
Should I buy one?
That’s the 64-million-dollar question, and we won’t be able to answer it until a) we’ve driven the new BMW M3 on the road and b) we’ve pitted this car against it, wheel-to-wheel, over the very same stretch.
But there’s no doubt about it; when pushed hard, the C63 reveals a multifaceted purposefulness that poses a real threat to the supremacy of BMW’s performance icon.
In the dry, on smooth roads, the C63 is magnificent. There’s decent steering weight and loads of information seaming through it. The suspension hunkers down to provide wonderful stability and big levels of confidence in high speed corners.
For all its inherent tautness, the ride is perfectly acceptable even on heavily pockmarked sections of bitumen, with excellent rebound control helping to quickly quell any nasty vertical movement. The front end is superbly damped, too, allowing the C63 to track faithfully without too much unsettling movement over bumps. Before long you find yourself making big demands on the chassis, marvelling at the directness and body control.
The C63 hits the UK in autumn, priced at around £55k. That’s only £6k more than the old C55, and considering how much better a driver’s car the C63 is, it sounds like an absolute bargain.
That’s assuming, however, that the BMW M3 doesn’t come along and frazzle our senses in every conceivable way. Which, of course, it’s odds-on favourite to do.
First drive data
How much?
* Price when new £55,000
* Price as tested £55,000
How fast?
* 0-62 mph 4.5 sec
* Max speed 155 mph
How big?
* Weight 1730 kg
How thirsty?
* Combined no data
* CO2 emissions no data
Engine
* Layout V8 , 6208 cc
* Max power 457 bhp at 4800 rpm
* Max torque 443 lb ft at 5000 rpm
The C63 is terrifically responsive, surprisingly communicative and adjustable on the limit – hardly how we’d describe its predecessor, whose bold engine dominated proceedings in such a way that it was ultimately to the detriment of the overall driving experience.
Should I buy one?
That’s the 64-million-dollar question, and we won’t be able to answer it until a) we’ve driven the new BMW M3 on the road and b) we’ve pitted this car against it, wheel-to-wheel, over the very same stretch.
But there’s no doubt about it; when pushed hard, the C63 reveals a multifaceted purposefulness that poses a real threat to the supremacy of BMW’s performance icon.
In the dry, on smooth roads, the C63 is magnificent. There’s decent steering weight and loads of information seaming through it. The suspension hunkers down to provide wonderful stability and big levels of confidence in high speed corners.
For all its inherent tautness, the ride is perfectly acceptable even on heavily pockmarked sections of bitumen, with excellent rebound control helping to quickly quell any nasty vertical movement. The front end is superbly damped, too, allowing the C63 to track faithfully without too much unsettling movement over bumps. Before long you find yourself making big demands on the chassis, marvelling at the directness and body control.
The C63 hits the UK in autumn, priced at around £55k. That’s only £6k more than the old C55, and considering how much better a driver’s car the C63 is, it sounds like an absolute bargain.
That’s assuming, however, that the BMW M3 doesn’t come along and frazzle our senses in every conceivable way. Which, of course, it’s odds-on favourite to do.
First drive data
How much?
* Price when new £55,000
* Price as tested £55,000
How fast?
* 0-62 mph 4.5 sec
* Max speed 155 mph
How big?
* Weight 1730 kg
How thirsty?
* Combined no data
* CO2 emissions no data
Engine
* Layout V8 , 6208 cc
* Max power 457 bhp at 4800 rpm
* Max torque 443 lb ft at 5000 rpm
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12 July 2007, 02:57 AM
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B0ll0cks!
If AMG do it this time it will be the first time ever!!
CLK 63 AMG Black was crap, so this will be little better!
All you will see is the traction control light on all the time, and you will never be able to switch it off fully anyway!
Another expensive plastic merc.................whatever
If AMG do it this time it will be the first time ever!!
CLK 63 AMG Black was crap, so this will be little better!
All you will see is the traction control light on all the time, and you will never be able to switch it off fully anyway!
Another expensive plastic merc.................whatever
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12 July 2007, 08:08 AM
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B0ll0cks!
If AMG do it this time it will be the first time ever!!
CLK 63 AMG Black was crap, so this will be little better!
All you will see is the traction control light on all the time, and you will never be able to switch it off fully anyway!
Another expensive plastic merc.................whatever
If AMG do it this time it will be the first time ever!!
CLK 63 AMG Black was crap, so this will be little better!
All you will see is the traction control light on all the time, and you will never be able to switch it off fully anyway!
Another expensive plastic merc.................whatever
Agreed, be very surprised if it's better than the RS4. If it's able to complete a test without falling to bits, we may find out. The M3 is just so
UGLY
12 July 2007, 08:23 AM
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Article in the Autoexpress I got yesterday came out in favour of the RS4. I hardly think that means that BMW have fooked it up. In fact, I'm pretty sure it says there is bugger all between them, 'cept the BM would make a slightly better track car.
I'd have either of them if I could afford it, but Mrs says the RS4, cos it's got four doors
I'd have either of them if I could afford it, but Mrs says the RS4, cos it's got four doors
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The change in philosophy is no better demonstrated than the decision by AMG to equip the C63 with an ESP system that can be switched off completely.
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There is a first drive review on the new M3 on Pistonheads and the writer does not seem particularly excited about the car and suggests he prefers the old M3 with the six cylinder 
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