eddie beef

Hello all..Seriously thinking about my next project and as the
Title suggests thats what Im planning on doing............

Got a nice little wad of cash so Im not looking at doing it myself...As yet Ive got to source the car and a T.T/S3/CUPRA engine...

Couple of Questions for anyone who has experience of them.........

1.Are these things quick.....I.e. worth doing..
2.What do they handle like with the conversion in....
3.budgeted on a bout 5k for the conversion is this enough.
4.ANYMORE INFO on the subject would be greatly appreciated....


Thanks in advance...........

J4CKO

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Is it quick ?

An LCR is quick, so the same engine, fettled in a lighter care will be fairly brisk !

Handling wise, the turbo install is heavier but not as much as a VR6 so it should **** the handling too much, it will be heavier than the old 8 or 16 valve engine as there is a turbo and a load more plumbing.

mattbeef

loads of people do them and many do them into a MK1 so well worth doing

check out vag20v.net and have a look at the projects that people have done

eddie beef

Cheers lads....there must be a demo car knocking around somewhere at some of the conversion firms.........

eddie beef

another thing though as well,will that much power through the front wheels just make the thing spin and spin.........

dougwrx

my mate has one of these engines in his green scirocco bored out to a 1.9 with all the goodies on and its pushing 500bhp on race fuel. He's done a 10.3 quarter mile this year, and he is looking to get in the nine's this year. And he is running a standard crank

eddie beef

****...............

Andy M3

There is a video around somewhere of a SuperlightR trying to keep up with a Golf 2 turbo around brands!!!!!

Found it - YouTube - Mk2 Golf Maurice Reeves & SuperlightR at Brands

Gutmann pug

Get yourself over to :: northloop.co.uk :: we're not playing games :: nurburgring galleries and more :: There is a wealth of knowledge on the forum of people doing this sort of thing. My friend is currently doing something similar. Current estimates sit at 270-290bhp.

eddie beef

cheers felllas keep em coming

Robin Mullan

hectic

mk2 Golf with a 20Vt engine in will scare most things...

quite a few people have done the conversion (even a few mk2 Ibiza's out there with a Mk3 Cupra /20Vt lump in them )

eddie beef

Thats me convinced...........Fantastic...... now wheres that mk2 shell ...lol

J4CKO

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My god thats quick, I will show my old fella as I want him and my uncle to do some kind of project and he likes his Golfs.

alackofspeed

I did a 20vt conversion with a friend. The engine was first in a Mk2, and it's now in a Corrado.

If you fit a later gearbox (more strength), and an ATB diff while you're at it, you'll be surprised how well they can put down the power.

If you do a track day in one, and it's a reasonably well sorted car (suspension and brakes), you'll find yourself confusing quite a few people: "what's under the bonnet?"

My friend is running an AUQ engine (Leon Cupra 180 / Mk4 Golf Anniversary...) in the Corrado with a TT-225 turbo on it, and it's got in the region of 270bhp. The same car, with the previous owner's engine (again a 20vt), was timed on a Racelogic box at Bruntingthorpe, and with an OPEN diff it managed 5.5 secs 0-60, ~12 secs 0-100. I think he hit the rev limiter in 5th at about 155.

Here's a video from an airfield day, back when the engine was in the Golf, and there was no ATB. It was an early stint, I was getting used to the car (honest!!).... and making lots of errors! YouTube - Keevil airfield day 5th March 2007 - Mark's 20vt Golf For reference, the car hits about 125 on the straights, but the video really masks the speed.

Incidentally, it's a doddle of a conversion, and I wouldn't suggest paying someone to do it. The engine bolts straight in, downpipes are available off the shelf, etc.. The key thing to having a good 20vt install, is the management - this is the area people easily screw up. There are lots of dogs out there with shady mapping on standalone ECUs, people running OEM management badly (with lots of error codes...). I can thoroughly recommend these chaps: Quantum Performance Engineering - Home. It's a business run as a hobby, and the two guys know their stuff: One was doing engine research for VAG, and the other used to map ECUs for clients in the motorsports industry.

Whatever you do, it'll be fun, and you'll get a lot of bang for your buck.

Cheers,
John.

L1J

Full build diary of my mk2 20V project below:

Overclockers UK Forums - My Golf Project

Warning - Its a LONG thread!

It's quick!
Handling is fun with uprated suspension (Koni's and uprated ARBs)
5k should do it, depends how far you want to go!

J4CKO

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L1J, very impressive, have you decided on a price yet ?

This tickled me on Youtube as well,

YouTube - Hayabusa Turbo Mk1 Golf!!!

L1J

Not yet! I have a few bits to finish first then I'll enjoy it for a while!

eddie beef

Cheers lads for all your opinions and help.....Ill be contacting the firm that you mentioned with regards to doing the conversion.couldnt get a reply back to you all as my computer was fecked....

Like I said Ive now got to source a decent mk2 and start looking for bits..

Ill keep you informed as it comes on...........thanks again chaps...

CrisPDuk

Two tips:

1/ Earlier Mk2s (pre '88ish) were a lot better built than the very late cars, ideally you want one that's just post face-lift (no quarterlights, RHD wipers).

2/ Don't restrict yourself to the GTi in your search, the 20V engine/box will go straight into anything that has the 1.6/1.8 engine in, and can be made to fit anything that has the 1.3 in it with not much more extra work.


Good luck and keep us posted

Projects would be a good place to put it

eddie beef

Couple of things ......Had a 88 16v in helious blue years back but always lusted after the later 90 spec golfs.....


Another, thought it was easier doing the conversion with a 90 spec because the electrics and the looms were different to the earlier models...

Either way its gonna be fun...end of the day thats what its all about eh

J4CKO

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Thread Revival,

Am looking in earnest for a 20VT converted Golf mk1/2 or Corrado so if anyone has any leads...

No Dogs dinners, flush tailgates, side exahusts, stripped out track day weapons with flip paint, must look standard ish, perhaps nicer wheels, slightly lower.

Just getting some money together so no hurry but interested to see if anyone knows of anythign, an aware of the ones on PH and Edition 38.