birthday luck.... :(
25 February 2007, 02:48 PM
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birthday luck.... :(
last year i was shot at in a random driveby shooting on my birthday night, now this...... my poor new X5..... i was stuck in traffic, she wasnt looking and going at about 50, then locked up.
my back and neck are killing me, spent all day yesturday in hospital, another great birthday....not.
why oh why?
Simon
my back and neck are killing me, spent all day yesturday in hospital, another great birthday....not.
why oh why?
Simon
25 February 2007, 02:58 PM
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Good advert for driving an X5, though. Be thankful you weren't in an old Nova or something!
Be prepared for whiplash injuries to bother you for some time. MrsREV got hit from behind by an artic in her Forester about 9 months ago and is still having problems with her neck and left arm
Be prepared for whiplash injuries to bother you for some time. MrsREV got hit from behind by an artic in her Forester about 9 months ago and is still having problems with her neck and left arm
25 February 2007, 03:05 PM
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thing is you can see how straight the road is, litterly a mile or so straight line, shes already admited total fault to both police and insurance company, im with the same insurance compnay and they have wavered my excess.
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25 February 2007, 06:32 PM
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We got an X5 for that reason. More protection than normal cars. Main thing is that you're OK, car can get repaired.
We chopped in the X5 for a normal car again (RS6
) but my wife missed the 4X4 so much we just got a Range rover.
Range rover for the family trips and RS for me on my own
Thumbs up mate
We chopped in the X5 for a normal car again (RS6
) but my wife missed the 4X4 so much we just got a Range rover.Range rover for the family trips and RS for me on my own
Thumbs up mate
25 February 2007, 06:59 PM
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Rubbish, more nonsense from the resident fool.
4x4s are much safer in real world accidents. And the newer ones aren't necessarily safer either.
My 97 Landcruiser in Aus took a shunt from behind while stationary, the car behind was travelling at 50mph and I virtually felt nothing. The ladder frame took the impact.
The only bad thing about 4x4s is that they tend to roll over easier.
4x4s are much safer in real world accidents. And the newer ones aren't necessarily safer either.
My 97 Landcruiser in Aus took a shunt from behind while stationary, the car behind was travelling at 50mph and I virtually felt nothing. The ladder frame took the impact.
The only bad thing about 4x4s is that they tend to roll over easier.
25 February 2007, 07:04 PM
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Rubbish, more nonsense from the resident fool.
4x4s are much safer in real world accidents. And the newer ones aren't necessarily safer either.
My 97 Landcruiser in Aus took a shunt from behind while stationary, the car behind was travelling at 50mph and I virtually felt nothing. The ladder frame took the impact.
The only bad thing about 4x4s is that they tend to roll over easier.
4x4s are much safer in real world accidents. And the newer ones aren't necessarily safer either.
My 97 Landcruiser in Aus took a shunt from behind while stationary, the car behind was travelling at 50mph and I virtually felt nothing. The ladder frame took the impact.
The only bad thing about 4x4s is that they tend to roll over easier.
The thing about your toyota is that if you crashed into a car of comparable weight you would be fooked. Old toyotas sucked at impact protection.
25 February 2007, 07:15 PM
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A damaged X5!! Brings a tear to my eye ....Glad no injuries were sustained....or that only major whiplash and distress were sustained if Claims Direct are reading
25 February 2007, 07:30 PM
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25 February 2007, 07:46 PM
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Guys, come on, you are all just encouraging him, can't you see that? 
If people are really that bothered, just ignore him. It really is that simple. At least PSL and the like are amusing.
If people are really that bothered, just ignore him. It really is that simple. At least PSL and the like are amusing.
25 February 2007, 08:00 PM
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The X5 is a four star car, which is pretty poor considering superminis get 5 these days, but then again it is an old design. I think however that by and large you are better off in a bigger car and however many stars a car has, say a new Clio has five, its still going to come off worse if it gets hit by an X5, the Euro Ncap tests are done in isolation and are the same for every car so it doesnt take into account anything other than their standard test procedures.
I think your neck hurts as all the energy from the Laguna spaltering itself against your car was transferred through to you, it didnt absorb any of the impact which surprises me as I ould have thought it had been desinged with crumple zones, it looks similar to the accident my brother in law was in, he got rear ended by a Citroen Xantia when he was sat stationary in his Jeep Wrangler, the Xantia was 2 foot shorter, the engine block split but all that was damaged on the Wrangler was the plastic covering the bumpers, the separate chassis did not give a millimetre, he though this was a good thing, I personally would rather have some give when something hits me.
I think your neck hurts as all the energy from the Laguna spaltering itself against your car was transferred through to you, it didnt absorb any of the impact which surprises me as I ould have thought it had been desinged with crumple zones, it looks similar to the accident my brother in law was in, he got rear ended by a Citroen Xantia when he was sat stationary in his Jeep Wrangler, the Xantia was 2 foot shorter, the engine block split but all that was damaged on the Wrangler was the plastic covering the bumpers, the separate chassis did not give a millimetre, he though this was a good thing, I personally would rather have some give when something hits me.
25 February 2007, 08:36 PM
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been docs again today, my neck hurts, but not as half as much as my back. im havong to lie down on the floor to seek comfort.
ive looked at my car more carefully:
both exhausts folded and warped,
various other metal bits deformed under the car,
bumper split in several places
the rear door flap now has to be pushed down and when up it dosnt sit flush with the top part.
left rear door has a wider gap now.
im going to a propper solicitor, dispite one of my friends is bestmates with the CEO of Claims Direct....i think ill get more. i might as well if im gonna be in pain. ive always been the one to disaprove of these people who claim when they arnt really hurt, but this sucks.
ive looked at my car more carefully:
both exhausts folded and warped,
various other metal bits deformed under the car,
bumper split in several places
the rear door flap now has to be pushed down and when up it dosnt sit flush with the top part.
left rear door has a wider gap now.
im going to a propper solicitor, dispite one of my friends is bestmates with the CEO of Claims Direct....i think ill get more. i might as well if im gonna be in pain. ive always been the one to disaprove of these people who claim when they arnt really hurt, but this sucks.
26 February 2007, 07:05 AM
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The X5 is a four star car, which is pretty poor considering superminis get 5 these days, but then again it is an old design. I think however that by and large you are better off in a bigger car and however many stars a car has, say a new Clio has five, its still going to come off worse if it gets hit by an X5, the Euro Ncap tests are done in isolation and are the same for every car so it doesnt take into account anything other than their standard test procedures.
I think your neck hurts as all the energy from the Laguna spaltering itself against your car was transferred through to you, it didnt absorb any of the impact which surprises me as I ould have thought it had been desinged with crumple zones, it looks similar to the accident my brother in law was in, he got rear ended by a Citroen Xantia when he was sat stationary in his Jeep Wrangler, the Xantia was 2 foot shorter, the engine block split but all that was damaged on the Wrangler was the plastic covering the bumpers, the separate chassis did not give a millimetre, he though this was a good thing, I personally would rather have some give when something hits me.
I think your neck hurts as all the energy from the Laguna spaltering itself against your car was transferred through to you, it didnt absorb any of the impact which surprises me as I ould have thought it had been desinged with crumple zones, it looks similar to the accident my brother in law was in, he got rear ended by a Citroen Xantia when he was sat stationary in his Jeep Wrangler, the Xantia was 2 foot shorter, the engine block split but all that was damaged on the Wrangler was the plastic covering the bumpers, the separate chassis did not give a millimetre, he though this was a good thing, I personally would rather have some give when something hits me.
My maths skills are not great but I count 5
European New Car Assessment Programme: Safety Rating Details
26 February 2007, 07:31 AM
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26 February 2007, 10:31 AM
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The X5 is a four star car, which is pretty poor considering superminis get 5 these days, but then again it is an old design. I think however that by and large you are better off in a bigger car and however many stars a car has, say a new Clio has five, its still going to come off worse if it gets hit by an X5, the Euro Ncap tests are done in isolation and are the same for every car so it doesnt take into account anything other than their standard test procedures.
I think your neck hurts as all the energy from the Laguna spaltering itself against your car was transferred through to you, it didnt absorb any of the impact which surprises me as I ould have thought it had been desinged with crumple zones, it looks similar to the accident my brother in law was in, he got rear ended by a Citroen Xantia when he was sat stationary in his Jeep Wrangler, the Xantia was 2 foot shorter, the engine block split but all that was damaged on the Wrangler was the plastic covering the bumpers, the separate chassis did not give a millimetre, he though this was a good thing, I personally would rather have some give when something hits me.
I think your neck hurts as all the energy from the Laguna spaltering itself against your car was transferred through to you, it didnt absorb any of the impact which surprises me as I ould have thought it had been desinged with crumple zones, it looks similar to the accident my brother in law was in, he got rear ended by a Citroen Xantia when he was sat stationary in his Jeep Wrangler, the Xantia was 2 foot shorter, the engine block split but all that was damaged on the Wrangler was the plastic covering the bumpers, the separate chassis did not give a millimetre, he though this was a good thing, I personally would rather have some give when something hits me.
You take a 5 star supermini in a head on with a 4 start SUV and the supemini occupants are history. Basic physics.
As for crumple zones - personally I would rather take the pain than have crushed kids/dogs that happened to be in the 3rd row of seats/boot of vehicles of that type.
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26 February 2007, 10:37 AM
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Seat and head restraint design may reduce the severity, but nothing is going to prevent it.
26 February 2007, 12:40 PM
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I thought I was going daft, I found it here, now I am confused as this one says four stars ?
European New Car Assessment Programme: Safety Rating Details
The pedestrian rating is separate, most cars are pretty poor at their pedestrain protection, off roaders especially so, if it were incorporated into the overall score then no off roaders would get five stars
European New Car Assessment Programme: Safety Rating Details
The pedestrian rating is separate, most cars are pretty poor at their pedestrain protection, off roaders especially so, if it were incorporated into the overall score then no off roaders would get five stars
26 February 2007, 01:03 PM
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I thought I was going daft, I found it here, now I am confused as this one says four stars ?
European New Car Assessment Programme: Safety Rating Details
The pedestrian rating is separate, most cars are pretty poor at their pedestrain protection, off roaders especially so, if it were incorporated into the overall score then no off roaders would get five stars
European New Car Assessment Programme: Safety Rating Details
The pedestrian rating is separate, most cars are pretty poor at their pedestrain protection, off roaders especially so, if it were incorporated into the overall score then no off roaders would get five stars
But in a small 5 star supermini -vs- large 4 star SUV, I know where my money would be...
26 February 2007, 01:11 PM
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looks like the Holmes Chapel-Chelford road, going towards HC - how did she manage that? Visibility is excellent on that road. Are the police interested intaking it further (due care and attention springs to mind)?
26 February 2007, 04:40 PM
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She had to borrow my mobile cos she didnt have one.
Obviously just a dosey bint.
Si