Audi S4 Avant 99/00
26 December 2006, 08:55 PM
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Audi S4 Avant 99/00
Can be had for around the 10-12k mark @ 70-80k - main dealer stamped book and generally well serviced.. or at least some of them seem to have.
The 22k needed for a 03 plat 4.2 V8 is too much TBH
The 2.7 Bi Turbo ticks a lot of boxes and family friendly with still having enough fun to keep dad happy.
Are they still a good residual purchase?
Any of you had one or know of the general do's & don'ts?
Tempted by the all round practicality - had x4 scoobies all STi inc a wagon btw and the appeal of the Recaro interiors and solid residuals make for an interesting option.
Thanks
The 22k needed for a 03 plat 4.2 V8 is too much TBH
The 2.7 Bi Turbo ticks a lot of boxes and family friendly with still having enough fun to keep dad happy.
Are they still a good residual purchase?
Any of you had one or know of the general do's & don'ts?
Tempted by the all round practicality - had x4 scoobies all STi inc a wagon btw and the appeal of the Recaro interiors and solid residuals make for an interesting option.
Thanks
26 December 2006, 09:12 PM
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Watch for oil starved Turbos... When I was considering, it was this £3k+ engine out job that put me off.
Cheers,
Grant
Watch for oil starved Turbos... When I was considering, it was this £3k+ engine out job that put me off.
Cheers,
Grant
26 December 2006, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by RS Grant
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Watch for oil starved Turbos... When I was considering, it was this £3k+ engine out job that put me off.
Cheers,
Grant
Watch for oil starved Turbos... When I was considering, it was this £3k+ engine out job that put me off.
Cheers,
Grant
Well priced atm.
27 December 2006, 06:48 AM
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I have a 99 S4 which I've had for 85K miles now (4years). Generally they are very reliable but there are a number of common problems with the cars. Audi dealers are rubbish at maintaining them and have a complete lack of understanding wrt the issues with them.
I would get a car from somewhere like rs246 that has been maintaned by a specialist (MRC, QST etc etc).
Mine is running around 440BHP and is quite quick (!)
I would get a car from somewhere like rs246 that has been maintaned by a specialist (MRC, QST etc etc).
Mine is running around 440BHP and is quite quick (!)
27 December 2006, 06:51 AM
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To add there is a list on rs246 of people with VAG-com software (me included). Try and get someone with VAG-com to look at any car your interested in prior to purchase. The VAG-com will be able to tell you if the car is working correctly and if there are any error codes.
27 December 2006, 09:04 AM
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I've got an S4 Avant too - rs246 is a great site (some people find it 'clicky' - but give it a chance as it is usually a totally different demographic of buyers compared to Scoobynet! 
)
I love mine - got 95K on it, and although standard, still puts out 265-odd bhp and (iirc) circa 300 lb/ft or torque. I"ve also had a couple of Scoobys, and there is no comparison (even the "in the back of your seat" whoosh)
The Audi is better built, worth more on re-sale, and a better environment to drive in.
Some say that the ride is too "wishy washy" - it IS softer than the UK Scoob (and even moreso compared to the STi), but this can be addressed with after-market shocks etc if required.
Mine's got leather/carbon fibre trim and BOSE stereo + FASH up to my purchase, where now my 3rd party garage sort it for me.
The BOSE is a great bit of kit - I've gone through the ballache of seperate subs and all that. Whilst fun, the dogs were always cramped in the Wagon, and my Saloon was SO impractical with family life!
Other issues are such as the fading DIS and Concert stereo "volume" bug. The DIS (in the centre of the dash binnacle) has a tendancy to fade - some worse than others. Mine does it slightly, but Audi want £600 for a new binnacle (the only solution..... and doesn't always work!)
The Concert stereo has a tendancy, that on power up, to be at full volume! Most owners get the unit modded for about £50. Bear in mind that the stereo unit is not a standard size, nor the connections to and from the BOSE amp, so it's awkward (although not impossible) to change the set up.
As others have said, make sure it's all in top working condition, as even though the engine is built like a brick-sh1thouse. The turbos, however, are made of chocolate (or so it would seem!) and can suffer from oil starvation due to small oil feeder pipes. This is moreso on the pre-99 cars. The 99/00 seemed to address this with larger diameter pipes.
Mods?
Expensive imho. You don't have the same amount of selection as the Scoob, due to its buyers' market.
However, of the mods you can get, you're looking at BIG power
I've been looking at a Stage 1 upgrade (remap and Miltek exhaust), but am holding off for the moment. Don't know why, but I don't think I'm ready to spend the money!!
Tyres/running costs?
I'm getting about 24 mpg, and have just changed my tyres. The rs246 boys tend to favour the Michelin Pilot Sport/2s........ I personally can't see what all the fuss is about. My Scoob had Toyo Proxes, so I booted the Audi with them too. It's been great
Apparantly, the car can be quite heavy on front discs and pads too - it ain't exactly a light car!
But with the exception of the RS models, there isn't much of a faster way to get a fridge freezer to 60 mph!! (copyright BigMo! 
)
Hope this helps - but yes, find a local enthusiast with VagCom to your potential purchase prior to handing over the readies They are great!
Dan
)I love mine - got 95K on it, and although standard, still puts out 265-odd bhp and (iirc) circa 300 lb/ft or torque. I"ve also had a couple of Scoobys, and there is no comparison (even the "in the back of your seat" whoosh)
The Audi is better built, worth more on re-sale, and a better environment to drive in.
Some say that the ride is too "wishy washy" - it IS softer than the UK Scoob (and even moreso compared to the STi), but this can be addressed with after-market shocks etc if required.
Mine's got leather/carbon fibre trim and BOSE stereo + FASH up to my purchase, where now my 3rd party garage sort it for me.
The BOSE is a great bit of kit - I've gone through the ballache of seperate subs and all that. Whilst fun, the dogs were always cramped in the Wagon, and my Saloon was SO impractical with family life!
Other issues are such as the fading DIS and Concert stereo "volume" bug. The DIS (in the centre of the dash binnacle) has a tendancy to fade - some worse than others. Mine does it slightly, but Audi want £600 for a new binnacle (the only solution..... and doesn't always work!)
The Concert stereo has a tendancy, that on power up, to be at full volume!
Most owners get the unit modded for about £50. Bear in mind that the stereo unit is not a standard size, nor the connections to and from the BOSE amp, so it's awkward (although not impossible) to change the set up.As others have said, make sure it's all in top working condition, as even though the engine is built like a brick-sh1thouse. The turbos, however, are made of chocolate (or so it would seem!
) and can suffer from oil starvation due to small oil feeder pipes. This is moreso on the pre-99 cars. The 99/00 seemed to address this with larger diameter pipes.Mods?
Expensive imho. You don't have the same amount of selection as the Scoob, due to its buyers' market.
However, of the mods you can get, you're looking at BIG power
I've been looking at a Stage 1 upgrade (remap and Miltek exhaust), but am holding off for the moment. Don't know why, but I don't think I'm ready to spend the money!!
Tyres/running costs?
I'm getting about 24 mpg, and have just changed my tyres. The rs246 boys tend to favour the Michelin Pilot Sport/2s........ I personally can't see what all the fuss is about. My Scoob had Toyo Proxes, so I booted the Audi with them too. It's been great
Apparantly, the car can be quite heavy on front discs and pads too - it ain't exactly a light car!
But with the exception of the RS models, there isn't much of a faster way to get a fridge freezer to 60 mph!!
(copyright BigMo! )Hope this helps - but yes, find a local enthusiast with VagCom to your potential purchase prior to handing over the readies
They are great!Dan
28 December 2006, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeff Wiltshire
I have a 99 S4 which I've had for 85K miles now (4years). Generally they are very reliable but there are a number of common problems with the cars. Audi dealers are rubbish at maintaining them and have a complete lack of understanding wrt the issues with them.
I would get a car from somewhere like rs246 that has been maintaned by a specialist (MRC, QST etc etc).
Mine is running around 440BHP and is quite quick (!)
I would get a car from somewhere like rs246 that has been maintaned by a specialist (MRC, QST etc etc).
Mine is running around 440BHP and is quite quick (!)
)Servicing internals - what needs done & how much ?
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28 December 2006, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo555
I've got an S4 Avant too - rs246 is a great site (some people find it 'clicky' - but give it a chance as it is usually a totally different demographic of buyers compared to Scoobynet! )
I love mine - got 95K on it, and although standard, still puts out 265-odd bhp and (iirc) circa 300 lb/ft or torque. I"ve also had a couple of Scoobys, and there is no comparison (even the "in the back of your seat" whoosh)
The Audi is better built, worth more on re-sale, and a better environment to drive in.
Some say that the ride is too "wishy washy" - it IS softer than the UK Scoob (and even moreso compared to the STi), but this can be addressed with after-market shocks etc if required.
Mine's got leather/carbon fibre trim and BOSE stereo + FASH up to my purchase, where now my 3rd party garage sort it for me.
The BOSE is a great bit of kit - I've gone through the ballache of seperate subs and all that. Whilst fun, the dogs were always cramped in the Wagon, and my Saloon was SO impractical with family life!
Other issues are such as the fading DIS and Concert stereo "volume" bug. The DIS (in the centre of the dash binnacle) has a tendancy to fade - some worse than others. Mine does it slightly, but Audi want £600 for a new binnacle (the only solution..... and doesn't always work!)
The Concert stereo has a tendancy, that on power up, to be at full volume! Most owners get the unit modded for about £50. Bear in mind that the stereo unit is not a standard size, nor the connections to and from the BOSE amp, so it's awkward (although not impossible) to change the set up.
As others have said, make sure it's all in top working condition, as even though the engine is built like a brick-sh1thouse. The turbos, however, are made of chocolate (or so it would seem!) and can suffer from oil starvation due to small oil feeder pipes. This is moreso on the pre-99 cars. The 99/00 seemed to address this with larger diameter pipes.
Mods?
Expensive imho. You don't have the same amount of selection as the Scoob, due to its buyers' market.
However, of the mods you can get, you're looking at BIG power
I've been looking at a Stage 1 upgrade (remap and Miltek exhaust), but am holding off for the moment. Don't know why, but I don't think I'm ready to spend the money!!
Tyres/running costs?
I'm getting about 24 mpg, and have just changed my tyres. The rs246 boys tend to favour the Michelin Pilot Sport/2s........ I personally can't see what all the fuss is about. My Scoob had Toyo Proxes, so I booted the Audi with them too. It's been great
Apparantly, the car can be quite heavy on front discs and pads too - it ain't exactly a light car!
But with the exception of the RS models, there isn't much of a faster way to get a fridge freezer to 60 mph!! (copyright BigMo! )
Hope this helps - but yes, find a local enthusiast with VagCom to your potential purchase prior to handing over the readies They are great!
Dan
)I love mine - got 95K on it, and although standard, still puts out 265-odd bhp and (iirc) circa 300 lb/ft or torque. I"ve also had a couple of Scoobys, and there is no comparison (even the "in the back of your seat" whoosh)
The Audi is better built, worth more on re-sale, and a better environment to drive in.
Some say that the ride is too "wishy washy" - it IS softer than the UK Scoob (and even moreso compared to the STi), but this can be addressed with after-market shocks etc if required.
Mine's got leather/carbon fibre trim and BOSE stereo + FASH up to my purchase, where now my 3rd party garage sort it for me.
The BOSE is a great bit of kit - I've gone through the ballache of seperate subs and all that. Whilst fun, the dogs were always cramped in the Wagon, and my Saloon was SO impractical with family life!
Other issues are such as the fading DIS and Concert stereo "volume" bug. The DIS (in the centre of the dash binnacle) has a tendancy to fade - some worse than others. Mine does it slightly, but Audi want £600 for a new binnacle (the only solution..... and doesn't always work!)
The Concert stereo has a tendancy, that on power up, to be at full volume!
Most owners get the unit modded for about £50. Bear in mind that the stereo unit is not a standard size, nor the connections to and from the BOSE amp, so it's awkward (although not impossible) to change the set up.As others have said, make sure it's all in top working condition, as even though the engine is built like a brick-sh1thouse. The turbos, however, are made of chocolate (or so it would seem!
) and can suffer from oil starvation due to small oil feeder pipes. This is moreso on the pre-99 cars. The 99/00 seemed to address this with larger diameter pipes.Mods?
Expensive imho. You don't have the same amount of selection as the Scoob, due to its buyers' market.
However, of the mods you can get, you're looking at BIG power
I've been looking at a Stage 1 upgrade (remap and Miltek exhaust), but am holding off for the moment. Don't know why, but I don't think I'm ready to spend the money!!
Tyres/running costs?
I'm getting about 24 mpg, and have just changed my tyres. The rs246 boys tend to favour the Michelin Pilot Sport/2s........ I personally can't see what all the fuss is about. My Scoob had Toyo Proxes, so I booted the Audi with them too. It's been great
Apparantly, the car can be quite heavy on front discs and pads too - it ain't exactly a light car!
But with the exception of the RS models, there isn't much of a faster way to get a fridge freezer to 60 mph!!
(copyright BigMo! )Hope this helps - but yes, find a local enthusiast with VagCom to your potential purchase prior to handing over the readies
They are great!Dan
Couple around at the moment for around 8k or 12k for a 01 plate with sub 50k -hmmmm
28 December 2006, 09:54 AM
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In early December I was in the Honda dealer. Next to me was a young lady whose S2000 I had seen in the workshop when I arrived. It was one of the originals - 7ish years old and, judging by the alloys, had had a hard life. She had bought the car in after a scare on the motorway. It had suffered a seized brake calliper, but also had 2 bald rear tyres (on an original S2000 in winter!!!!!) and needed pads and discs all round. The bill was basically a grand and all of it had to be done. She couldn't afford it - she just didn't have the cash. I am not for one minute suggesting that you would be as daft to think that a 10 grand second hand performance car will have the same running costs as a new supermini, but do make sure you get the car thoroughly checked before you part with your cash. I can see the attraction of the Audi btw.
28 December 2006, 10:32 AM
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General running costs aren't that bad tbh.
Pretty much the same as the Scoob. I'm getting roughly 25mpg on the daily commute (country roads and A-roads + a bit of city driving)
Costs? Only had one service so far, but it was the 100K one, and cost roughly £250 from my 3rd party garage This also included a total reflush of coolant and a fixing of a blocked rear wiper wash.
£10K seems about right - I got mine for roughly that, and well, I don't think I've been hit by too much depreciation in the 9 months I've had it
Bear in mind that the 99/00 cars were V6 Bi-Turbos, but the next model is a V8 N/A - drinks fuel by all accounts
The key thing is that if the car's been well maintained and serviced, there should be no issues with an older one Just be prepared that IF something goes wrong, it can go wrong BIG style! and will cost.
MRC do a health check too, which again, by all accounts is worth having. I haven't done mine, as the documentation that came with my car was like one of those comedy credit card wallets!
Hope this helps
Dan
Pretty much the same as the Scoob. I'm getting roughly 25mpg on the daily commute (country roads and A-roads + a bit of city driving)
Costs? Only had one service so far, but it was the 100K one, and cost roughly £250 from my 3rd party garage
This also included a total reflush of coolant and a fixing of a blocked rear wiper wash. £10K seems about right - I got mine for roughly that, and well, I don't think I've been hit by too much depreciation in the 9 months I've had it
Bear in mind that the 99/00 cars were V6 Bi-Turbos, but the next model is a V8 N/A - drinks fuel by all accounts
The key thing is that if the car's been well maintained and serviced, there should be no issues with an older one
Just be prepared that IF something goes wrong, it can go wrong BIG style! and will cost.MRC do a health check too, which again, by all accounts is worth having. I haven't done mine, as the documentation that came with my car was like one of those comedy credit card wallets!
Hope this helps
Dan
28 December 2006, 11:07 AM
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If the turbos let go (which isn't that uncommon on orginal turbos) your looking at £3K minimum as it's an engine out job. Servicing is around £200-£300 for normal service with the big service (cambelt, pulleys waterpump etc) being in the £800 region. Clutchs are pretty good, I can make a set of tyres last 15-20K miles and I get 22-25mpg.
An unmodified car with orginal turbos can be an issue as the turbos can go at anytime so be prepared for the costs involved. You may be better off buying a modified car as the KO4s are much better than the K03 orginals.
An unmodified car with orginal turbos can be an issue as the turbos can go at anytime so be prepared for the costs involved. You may be better off buying a modified car as the KO4s are much better than the K03 orginals.
28 December 2006, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Blueblaster
In early December I was in the Honda dealer. Next to me was a young lady whose S2000 I had seen in the workshop when I arrived. It was one of the originals - 7ish years old and, judging by the alloys, had had a hard life. She had bought the car in after a scare on the motorway. It had suffered a seized brake calliper, but also had 2 bald rear tyres (on an original S2000 in winter!!!!!) and needed pads and discs all round. The bill was basically a grand and all of it had to be done. She couldn't afford it - she just didn't have the cash. I am not for one minute suggesting that you would be as daft to think that a 10 grand second hand performance car will have the same running costs as a new supermini, but do make sure you get the car thoroughly checked before you part with your cash. I can see the attraction of the Audi btw.
28 December 2006, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo555
General running costs aren't that bad tbh.
Pretty much the same as the Scoob. I'm getting roughly 25mpg on the daily commute (country roads and A-roads + a bit of city driving)
Costs? Only had one service so far, but it was the 100K one, and cost roughly £250 from my 3rd party garage This also included a total reflush of coolant and a fixing of a blocked rear wiper wash.
£10K seems about right - I got mine for roughly that, and well, I don't think I've been hit by too much depreciation in the 9 months I've had it
Bear in mind that the 99/00 cars were V6 Bi-Turbos, but the next model is a V8 N/A - drinks fuel by all accounts
The key thing is that if the car's been well maintained and serviced, there should be no issues with an older one Just be prepared that IF something goes wrong, it can go wrong BIG style! and will cost.
MRC do a health check too, which again, by all accounts is worth having. I haven't done mine, as the documentation that came with my car was like one of those comedy credit card wallets!
Hope this helps
Dan
Pretty much the same as the Scoob. I'm getting roughly 25mpg on the daily commute (country roads and A-roads + a bit of city driving)
Costs? Only had one service so far, but it was the 100K one, and cost roughly £250 from my 3rd party garage
This also included a total reflush of coolant and a fixing of a blocked rear wiper wash. £10K seems about right - I got mine for roughly that, and well, I don't think I've been hit by too much depreciation in the 9 months I've had it
Bear in mind that the 99/00 cars were V6 Bi-Turbos, but the next model is a V8 N/A - drinks fuel by all accounts
The key thing is that if the car's been well maintained and serviced, there should be no issues with an older one
Just be prepared that IF something goes wrong, it can go wrong BIG style! and will cost.MRC do a health check too, which again, by all accounts is worth having. I haven't done mine, as the documentation that came with my car was like one of those comedy credit card wallets!
Hope this helps
Dan
28 December 2006, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff Wiltshire
If the turbos let go (which isn't that uncommon on orginal turbos) your looking at £3K minimum as it's an engine out job. Servicing is around £200-£300 for normal service with the big service (cambelt, pulleys waterpump etc) being in the £800 region. Clutchs are pretty good, I can make a set of tyres last 15-20K miles and I get 22-25mpg.
An unmodified car with orginal turbos can be an issue as the turbos can go at anytime so be prepared for the costs involved. You may be better off buying a modified car as the KO4s are much better than the K03 orginals.
An unmodified car with orginal turbos can be an issue as the turbos can go at anytime so be prepared for the costs involved. You may be better off buying a modified car as the KO4s are much better than the K03 orginals.
28 December 2006, 04:24 PM
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K04s aren't really a straight swap....budget around £4-5K to do a decent K04 upgrade to take it to 400BHP ish (8K for 500BHP and upwards !). A remapped K03 car should produce 310-330BHP depending what exhaust/remap is done.
K03 failure doesn't appear to be related to mileage. The K03 fails for a number of reasons but mainly where it has had to work hard due to boost leaks. Boost leaks are fairly common even on low mileage FASH cars as the Audi dealerships don't understand this or check for it. My K03s failed because the center box of the exhaust collapsed at 50K miles.
K03 failure doesn't appear to be related to mileage. The K03 fails for a number of reasons but mainly where it has had to work hard due to boost leaks. Boost leaks are fairly common even on low mileage FASH cars as the Audi dealerships don't understand this or check for it. My K03s failed because the center box of the exhaust collapsed at 50K miles.
28 December 2006, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff Wiltshire
K04s aren't really a straight swap....budget around £4-5K to do a decent K04 upgrade to take it to 400BHP ish (8K for 500BHP and upwards !). A remapped K03 car should produce 310-330BHP depending what exhaust/remap is done.
K03 failure doesn't appear to be related to mileage. The K03 fails for a number of reasons but mainly where it has had to work hard due to boost leaks. Boost leaks are fairly common even on low mileage FASH cars as the Audi dealerships don't understand this or check for it. My K03s failed because the center box of the exhaust collapsed at 50K miles.
K03 failure doesn't appear to be related to mileage. The K03 fails for a number of reasons but mainly where it has had to work hard due to boost leaks. Boost leaks are fairly common even on low mileage FASH cars as the Audi dealerships don't understand this or check for it. My K03s failed because the center box of the exhaust collapsed at 50K miles.
29 December 2006, 11:03 AM
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Wifey thought the same She was really shocked when I said that I was looking at an Audi
Then when we test drove it, she gave me that knowing look - you know the one. It says "You sneakey git!"
Still, she's happy. She's not embarassed to go out in the car now
(whilst she "got" the Scoob, and had some great times driving it, she never really liked it)Loves driving the Audi now - got some DVD screens for the kids, so the next thing will be to tint the windows (just enough to mask the screens) - will look nice on the Avus Silver
Post up some piccies when you get it mate - here's one of mine
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29 December 2006, 01:30 PM
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One other thing to look out for is the front suspension - it has loads of links and joints which can wear. I had 6 replaced on my RS4 which came to about £700 [with plenty still left to wear] . Drive the car over some rough/pited road to see if you can hear it rattling/clonking.
Personally I never really got on with my RS4 as its dynamics were always a dissapointment so do make sure you drive the car on some uneven B roads to get a feel for how it handles these before you commit.
D
Personally I never really got on with my RS4 as its dynamics were always a dissapointment so do make sure you drive the car on some uneven B roads to get a feel for how it handles these before you commit.
D
29 December 2006, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo555
Wifey thought the same She was really shocked when I said that I was looking at an Audi
Then when we test drove it, she gave me that knowing look - you know the one. It says "You sneakey git!"
Still, she's happy. She's not embarassed to go out in the car now
(whilst she "got" the Scoob, and had some great times driving it, she never really liked it)Loves driving the Audi now - got some DVD screens for the kids, so the next thing will be to tint the windows (just enough to mask the screens) - will look nice on the Avus Silver
Post up some piccies when you get it mate - here's one of mine
Dan
29 December 2006, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Diesel
One other thing to look out for is the front suspension - it has loads of links and joints which can wear. I had 6 replaced on my RS4 which came to about £700 [with plenty still left to wear] . Drive the car over some rough/pited road to see if you can hear it rattling/clonking.
Personally I never really got on with my RS4 as its dynamics were always a dissapointment so do make sure you drive the car on some uneven B roads to get a feel for how it handles these before you commit.
D
Personally I never really got on with my RS4 as its dynamics were always a dissapointment so do make sure you drive the car on some uneven B roads to get a feel for how it handles these before you commit.
D
29 December 2006, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo555
will sort some out for you
Dan
Dan
29 December 2006, 07:32 PM
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They are 50/50 split with upto 70% (80% on the RS4) to either end. The 4WD system is Torsen Diff. The issue is that the bulk of the engine sits in front of the wheels and therefore it tends to understeer. This can be mitigated by changing the suspension and ARBs.
Some people don't get on with them at all and some people love them to bits....which is just as well otherwise we would all be driving the same type of car.
Some people don't get on with them at all and some people love them to bits....which is just as well otherwise we would all be driving the same type of car.
29 December 2006, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by SCOOBYD00
Good shout - will most probably shell out for an AA check for piece of mind TBH. I'm assuming its not a 50/50 torque split either - understeery?
Car wasnt understeery - had a few laps on a track with it [RS4] once and it was really excellent. Its when it got uneven or bumpy that it all got a bit shapeless. S4's are softer with less wide tyres so may behave a lot better. Have a blast on a B road and you'll know - doing the same with a TVR Griffith once stopped me buying it...
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29 December 2006, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff Wiltshire
They are 50/50 split with upto 70% (80% on the RS4) to either end. The 4WD system is Torsen Diff. The issue is that the bulk of the engine sits in front of the wheels and therefore it tends to understeer. This can be mitigated by changing the suspension and ARBs.
Some people don't get on with them at all and some people love them to bits....which is just as well otherwise we would all be driving the same type of car.
Some people don't get on with them at all and some people love them to bits....which is just as well otherwise we would all be driving the same type of car.
29 December 2006, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Diesel
Best be on the safe side mate - if the AA do compression tests etc it is probably money well spent. Hope its better than the average cursory house survey
Car wasnt understeery - had a few laps on a track with it [RS4] once and it was really excellent. Its when it got uneven or bumpy that it all got a bit shapeless. S4's are softer with less wide tyres so may behave a lot better. Have a blast on a B road and you'll know - doing the same with a TVR Griffith once stopped me buying it...
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Car wasnt understeery - had a few laps on a track with it [RS4] once and it was really excellent. Its when it got uneven or bumpy that it all got a bit shapeless. S4's are softer with less wide tyres so may behave a lot better. Have a blast on a B road and you'll know - doing the same with a TVR Griffith once stopped me buying it...
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