stevie1982

iTrader: (16)

anyone had the chance to drive one of these or even better owning one?

what do we all think just thinking of a change for a while as i have had 2years in a impreza, and i am not too keen on the later spec models so thinking of spending 10-13k on my next car

if not any other suggestions

also considered a skyline r33 gtr anyone got any views on these

steve

chris singleton

I've got an R33 GTR and it's awesome - when it works

You should be able to find a nice stage 1 modded GTR (exhaust, filters, ecu and boost controller) for £13-14K which will be around the 375-400bhp mark. Personally, I wouldn't take the power any higher as reliability becomes a huge issue. You should also be aware that skyline repair bills are huge and don't come with any lubrication

Personally, I'd go for an evo6, my favourite evo by far and something that at some stage I will have to own

Chris

Daryl

Had an Evo VI for 4 years and couldn't fault it. 360bhp and never had any mechanical problems. Most of the criticisms levelled at these seem to revolve around them being 'too good'

You know the usual things - too easy to drive, too many electronics, souless etc. To be frank, it's all just misplaced envy IMO.

Nothing goes as well in all conditions as an Evo, probably the only other car that comes close is a Scooby (cue all the 'it's not as good as my Porsche/M3/RS6/Fabia!' turncoats ).

Some of the cars mentioned above may be more desirable, but nothing beats the satisfaction you get knowing how much they resent getting spanked by you and your cheap Jap-crap tin box

For £13K you should be looking for a mint Tommi Makinen

chris singleton

That's a stunner

ESH

If there are mint Tommi Maks for 13k then I'd have one in a shot.

Evo 5 and 6's are excellent cars. As long as you don't mind servicing them every 4500 miles (I didn't) you'll get a preetty decent car with some nice mods (if thats your thing) for your money. Tommi Makkinen still go for about 15K plus for good ones and more for excellent cars with low miles.

Just ensure the AYC has been serviced and the brakes have been down, the clutch has been changed etc. or factor these into the price.

The evo is plenty practical too with four doors and a boot.

Hope you go for the EVO you won't regret it.

PS I miss my Evo loads

stevie1982

iTrader: (16)

i have heard about the ayc so i am aware to look for the history.

as for the serviving costs and replacement disks and pads surley as for the brakes they are similar price to a subaru if you go for a after market performance disk and pad, but what is the cost of the servicing if someone could let me know the average service cost.

thanks

stevie1982

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can anyone tell me the difference between the

evo 6 gsr and
the evo 6 ralliart

thanks

wheelwright

The Ralliart cars are simply imported by them and classed as an official UK car,

But they are all GSR's !!

The Ralliart cars are all numbered, have rear fog light fitted in bumper(imports can have this done)
have ralliart on the speedo, apart from that they are the same car.

Uk models are usually cheaper to insure.

stevie1982

iTrader: (16)

i thought there was a power increase i have seen some advertised as gsr's with 310bhp then others advertised as ralliart with 330bhp is this true or just miss leading information

wheelwright

All standard cars are 280bhp but not many standard cars about these days!!

Daryl

It can all get a bit confusing, but not many cars were 276bhp, which is what was supposed to be standard. Years ago, we had an MLR rolling road day and my car, which was standard at the time, apart from a Magnex exhaust, gave 310bhp. Other, supposedly standard, cars gave about 290-300bhp.
One chap had a 'Ralliart' RS Sprint, that was supposed to have 330bhp - it came out on the rollers at about 300! He was not impressed, because he'd spent a fortune to get the supposed extra power.
He was not the most disappointed though - one chap had an Extreme, that was supposed to be at least 360bhp and had cost him more than £45K, but on the rollers was only showing about 330bhp.
Within a few months, once the tuning market got to grips with things, you could get 360bhp for about £1500 or less.

Terminator X

iTrader: (7)

Agree with ESH, they do seem to be £15/16k still !! Apart from the one on the link that is

TX.

GCollier

I owned an evo 6 for two years a while back, not long after they came out. Since then I've had a 996C2 and an RS6. Whilst the latter two are far more "complete" vehicles that you could happily drive all day, in terms of pure adrenalin rush on a 30 minute blast, they simply can't come close to the evo 6.

Gary.

v5 man

iTrader: (4)

I own an Evo 6...........

This one.........



I previously owned 4 x Impreza`s and I can honestly say I dont miss them one bit, except maybe the exhaust note.
My 6 is a pretty much standard imported GSR. The only mods being a Blitz cat-back zorst, Blitz induction kit, xs-power FMIC and lowering springs.

Now, Im in the fortunate position of also having a company Ford Focus, so the Evo is just my toy. Thank god for that, cos I couldnt drive this bastid every day!! Its suspension is too harsh for normal driving, the clutch is heavy and very on or off, no in between. The car hates driving slowly, its very jerky, BUT, open it up and you`ll then realise what the suspension is set up for, why the clutch needs to be so strong as you slam it through the gears, and you`ll also (IMO) see that the AYC makes this car quicker round bends than an equivilent Subaru. The exhaust note on full chat is pretty awesome too
The smaller fuel tank, costs £38 ish to fill from empty, is a drag too.

My AYC has a pump fault, it switches off the AYC when the fluid is hot, thats why I can feel the difference of AYC and non-AYC from the same car. AYC pulls you so much tighter round a bend, and im guessing this car will kill me oneday as it shouts "FASTER FASTER FASTER"

This Evo has FSH, 50k miles, is in great condition, and the best bit.....it cost me £9400 needing a £500(inc fitting) AYC pump.
Insurance for me (34 year old, 7 years NCD) is £695 fully comp.

stevie1982

iTrader: (16)

thank you mate i am a bit consernd regarding the ayc i have been told if this goes it might need a couple of thousand spent on replacing certin items is this the case otr would it be just 500 on another pump


steve

markGT

Sorry mate but if you can find a mint TME for that price I'll have two . You'll be expecting to pay around 17-18k for a decent one. There are a couple on the Extreme Automobiles site for around that price but I've seen one of them and owned the other and they don't come up to my standard and I certainly wouldn't describe them as even in good condition. Don't even touch the white one as it has rust on it and has had a prang (they may be fixed by now). Oh and it warps disks as well!!! The red one has had a hard life considering that it has only done 18k!!!

However the EVO VI/TME is an awesome car but they are getting harder to find in mint condition. My advice is to take your time. A full service history is a must if it hasn't walk away. I'm sure you know they are expensive to run, but an STI isnt cheep either!!! However If you want to stay in the Scooby fold I highly recommnd a MY05 STI PPP awesome car and just as quick as the EVO point to point if not quicker.

v5 man

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Mitsubishi stealers want £2400 for the pump if it goes. Performance specialists like M.A.D will do one for £500 including fitting and AYC fluid change

Daryl

The one I posted in my link looks pretty good. Of course, I can't vouch for its condition, but the poster 'kenny 1' on that very link said: "I've seen this car and it's mint."

There are others, as a cursory glance at the MLR will show

Cyberevo

iTrader: (1)

I had an EVO6, it was 1 year old from main dealer! I had it less than 5 months and it needed £5k worth of AYC PUMP and Diff work doing to it under warranty.

I sold it with only about 12k miles on the clock.

EP82

And now it's for sale at a grand more with the same AYC problem, haha

v5 man

iTrader: (4)

Complete with a shiney new FMIC though
My re-mortgage just broke down, I need to raise funds asap. I hiked the price for room to get my money back

LeeMac

iTrader: (1)

Had a drive of a mates Evo 6 and it was stupidly quick, nobody knew what was done to it but you could hear the tyres wear when you floored it.

Didnt like the exhaust sound tho but thats my only gripe and I would have one.

Had a VR4 for a while and was told by my service chap that the AYC was oiled by hydraulic fluid so suppose you could change yourself to help cut the servicing down, didnt it used to be 9k intervals.

Lee

ps. sorry about the 'stupidly' quote, just seems to fit.

Dark Blue Mark

Makinen is never worth 16-18k IMO. People are having a laugh, its a 6 year old car! They might be up for that price but I would doubt they are shifting...

MB

shustir

Have had some experience with a standard Evo 6 and all I can say is it is a phenominally capable car . It just does whatever you ask of it. The only drawback I could see was getting over confident and doing something silly !

stevie1982

iTrader: (16)

anyone who has owned one or knows a mate who has, could you post up the troubles you had with them and what it cost to fix it

thanks


steve

ESH

Hi Steve,

Go to MLRs website and download the buyers guide. Its a whole lot better than asking a Subaru forum. In fact your questions would generate more answers on the MLR site too.

I think we have covered the main faults of our ownership though

Regards

Esh

Kempo

Steve, in answer to your last question, I owned an Evo VI for 1 year and these are the problems that I had - be aware though I bought a dog of a car and must have been mad to have chosen it but learnt a very, very hard lesson.

1. AYC - owner had removed dash bulb to cover up fault - dealer (wrongly) replaced AYC ECU (£300) but eventually needed new pressure switch (£100)

2. Brakes - when car was test driven were fine - judder braking from 80mph - disks were shot so needed new disks and pads (£300)

3. Air con - intermittent - replaced part of loom and OK (£50)

4. Alarm siren - broken - replaced (£100)

5. Tappets (lash adjusters) - noisy so replaced them myself with better ones (£150)

6. Crank sensor - previous service (prior to purchase) was done wrong - crank sensor failed, cam belt had almost snapped and balancer shaft was fitted incorrectly - total cost to repair (£800)

7. Actuator (for wastegate) - had rusted (common fault) - cost £100

There are probably a few more minor things but these were the main.

As I said above, this was a dog car but many of the faults were under the surface and although not complete the service history was good.

Take a look at the buyers guide on the MLR and read it, twice. Ensure there is a full history with servicing every 4 - 5k miles and go over the car thoroughly.

Once I had sorted everything it was an amazing car to drive and really gets the attention on the road - unfortunately it crippled me financially and I couldn't wait to get rid of it!