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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 10:40 AM
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I'm looking at upgrading the ibiza as a last big spend before looking at settleing down and buying some property.

Before even driving one i have my mind pretty much made up, i fancy a Renault Clio Trophy.

The car i buy needs to be fun, good on the track, relativley quick, not so bad on juice and still have a good 12 - 24 months remaining on it's warranty.

So is there anything out there that can better the Trophy?

I'm open to anything, but needs a good track pedigree, not some lardy boat that will go quick in a straight line but as soon as you show it a corner it ****s it's self.

Any suggestions would be great.

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PS. Remember warranty is a biggy, can't be bothered with forking out for repairs on cars anymore, modified cars are a no no as are cars that need to be modified to be good on the track.
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 11:24 AM
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Not sure about the remaining warranty, but there are plenty of MINI Cooper S`s around for that price.

Many have the 5 year transferable TLC package on them as well.

Just a thought.
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 11:26 AM
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The only mini i'd consider is the John Cooper Works limited edition, and as they are double my pocket money i can't afford one

Not a masive fan of them tbh, the fact that the g/f is a beauty therapist and loves the new mini says it all really.
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 11:40 AM
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Buy a Trophy. I know i would ! V6 is the alternative.
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 11:53 AM
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trophy fer me too, great little cars.

ignore anyone who says its just another crappy renault, they know nowt...
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by EP82
the fact that the g/f is a beauty therapist and loves the new mini says it all really.
They are a good steer though.

Like I said just a thought, it sounds like you`ve already made up your mind anyway.........
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 12:09 PM
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I'm trying to think of something else that is a match for the clio. The V6 is a good suggestion but the new ones are out of budget.

Honda S2000 maybe, but the ones in my budget are knocking on a abit, no warranty left and have problems with bushes.

I'm pretty sure on the clio, there aren't any trophies for sale around here, i'll see if i can get a test drive in a 182 clio with the cup packs and see how it is. If anything it will give me an idea of straight line performance, etc.
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 03:45 PM
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Surely the warranty will be void if you track it anyway ?

Trophy is a cracking car, as far as a passenger ride can tell you at any rate..
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by EvoBarry
Surely the warranty will be void if you track it anyway ?

Trophy is a cracking car, as far as a passenger ride can tell you at any rate..
Renault organise track days for their customers in their own cars so a good arguement for the warranty being valid.

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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 03:58 PM
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There is that
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 04:37 PM
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Trophy and cup are two different cars.
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 05:20 PM
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They have the same engine in there, i'm sure of that?

Having only been a passenger in my mates 172 cup, i'd like to atleast drive a 182 before i make my final decision, surely thats not a daft idea?
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 05:28 PM
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Yeah i don't mean that literally. The car is more focused than other clio's. Read this:

The Trophy is designed to exaggerate what is great about the Clio 182 without spoiling the rest of it. The key to its sharper focus is its Sachs Racing suspension dampers, which cost about 10 times as much as the normal items and feature additional, separate reservoirs for the oil and pressurised gas a damper contains. This means, simply, that they work more efficiently for longer.

There's another advantage for the front ones, too, which is that the piston rod (which among other things helps hold the front wheel in position as it steers) is thicker and stronger, so the suspension's geometry can be maintained more accurately.

And the dampers feature hydraulic bump stops (the objects the suspension contacts when the wheels can move no further upwards into the car) instead of the usual rubbery ones. This means there's less of a thump and no rubbery bounce if you hit a really big bump, and makes possible the fitment of shorter front springs to lower the ride height by a further 10mm over the Cup model"


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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 06:44 PM
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I read up about the suspension, it sounds interesting.

I'm hoping that i will like the 182, in which case i should love the Tophy but we shall see
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