mushkinee

ive bought an is200 diesel,it is completely diff from the scoob, it is nice inside etc but never having owned a diesel, it is a real pig to drive at a fast pace there is no power then it all comes in one lump any tips for driving a diesel?

dpb

SLOWER..?

mushkinee

lol ur prob right but it doesn't feel responsive is this all diesels or just this one? the torque figures say it has 400nm of torque but it just feels wrong in a way.

mushkinee

I miss my scooby

AndyC_772

iTrader: (2)

I presume you mean the new IS220d?

I test drove one a couple of months ago. Smart looking car, very nice interior, totally gutless and rattly engine. I was really disappointed, given that there are some very good diesel engines out there now - but I guess it's a bit late for that in your case

I tried a variety of diesels when I was looking for a more comfy/economical replacement for my STI. The Lexus diesel was the worst (sorry!), and the new BMW 320d was pretty asthmatic too. The Volvo 2.4 D5 (in the S60) was pretty good, and so was the Audi A4 2.0D (which combines a punchy engine with a superb gearbox). Best of all was the BMW 3 litre diesel which I ended up with.

I guess maybe you could get your engine remapped? It's a very new car but it might be worth registering your interest with some of the usual diesel remapping companies if they don't do a chip already.

mushkinee

Prob is i ll only have it for 2 years so is it worth it?, i m just gonna use my fiesta i think it feels so much better to drive, this is the 1st toyota diesel engine right?
your right, the gearbox is not good i think it may be the ratios as they have a sport version with diff ratios, not impressed to be honest.

sti-04!!

535d or the New E320 CDi they aint gutless nor do they run out of breath

TopBanana

Perhaps next time you'll remember to take a test drive?

mushkinee

lol prob a good idea but these new tax rules are thingy on the emmisions so it was the best car i could good get for 400 a month.

steve05wrx

Hi
I read a test rerport on the new IS diesel.
The exec version has different gearing to the new sport version - which gives the exec very poor in-gear acceleration - something diesels are normally good at!
They have changed the gearing for the sport version - and it is much better - although not up to 320d standards apparently.
Cheers!
Steve

brickboy

What Steve said, the first test report I saw on the Lexus diesel said that it didn't feel like nearly 300 ft-lb of torque, and it arrived quite late.

I've seen a similar report about the new 170bhp VAG diesel too, apparently despitr the on-paper advantage it didn't FEEL like an extra 30bhp over the cooking 2 litre diesel

NotoriousREV

Hmm, sounds just like the old IS200 then: no power until the last part of rev counter quickly followed by the rev limiter, change gear, drop out of the power and repeat. Very annoying.

Alas

Wife has an old style is200. Never goes fast enough or drives hard enough to reach rev limiter. Loves the nice interior though, if only it had curtains

Quite fancied the look of the new is200 but will def. stick to petrol now.

mushkinee

In conclusion diesels are ****e unless your the kind of person who actually makes a game out of fuel economy. They are the devils work! (hence taxi drivers love em!)

TopBanana

They're fine if you get a good one

logiclee

Did you reed any reviews before you bought it or try any other diesels?

I'll have to agree with the road testers, the IS220D is not a good car. I've not driven the sport but that didn't get a good right up either.
It doesn't have much off boost torque and the long gearing makes this worse. You have to keep it on boost to make good progress and then then engine gets vocal. It's way behind other compact execs and not even as good as some family cars like the TDCi Mondeo.

Whatcar say.
"Lexus' first diesel engine is something of a disappointment. The IS220d's 175bhp compares favourably to its rivals but, although it's swift, it isn't as punchy as you'd expect. Refinement, fuel economy and CO2 emissions fall short of the Lexus' key competitors too."


Sorry
Lee

mynickers

Shame, cause that is a very pretty car. You should of bought an Accord i-CTDI, one of the best Diesel engines around!

Brendan Hughes

Ignoring the Audi, it seems a bit redundant to say the 2.0 was athsmatic, the 2.5 was better and the 3.0 was best...