sulli

Had my first proper run against a Scooby in my Leon Cupra R today.
I came up quick behind him and saw he wanted to play on a bit of 'unused and very long dual carriageway, with a few roundabouts'
After a quick blat where I came up behind him at speed, him responding, then me passing, we came to halt together at a natural stop in the track, looking somewhat like the traffic light you'd see on 'public roads'.
Had a quick chat, ascertained spec of said Scooby, new shape Sti UK300 (I think), Big Brembos, big black wheels, big exhaust, currently running 320bhp - nice chap, I expressed my concern at his helpful 4WD on the forthcoming start, but when we went I got it perfect, he didn't and I got ahead and kept ahead, slightly uphill, to hard braking from 120. Hmm, quite chuffed, losing around 100bhp, but not losing much on transmission losses.
Again a set of lights, his better start, even stevens to 100, I move aside and he creeps passed with good line for sweeping bend at 125, he seemed to have a sligt edge at that speed.
Overall, the scooby seemed slightly more planted, but both cars fairly even when rolling, though I think he maybe would have nosed ahead if side by side run and good changes (not sure what his were like but mine were perfect). The LCR also does feel a little twitchy and less planted at (very) high speed round bends, and seems to feel the bumps a little more than the Scooby.
Wave to finish, and i'll keep a look out for him again - Beduff side of Cov, and gorgeous looking all black UK300 Sti, maybe a little surprised?

Brun

I give it half an hour before someone says "he wasn't trying"
Good work bud

sulli

lol
He was I think, you don't not try getting to 125 in around 20 secs, then power round a bend. Respect was both ways really - gorgeous car, great sound, still love the Impreza. And he did take that fast bend faster than me, slightly better line, and just as important, he had probably a little more confidence in a planted car.

gazbrook

8ollock$ is more the phrase I was looking for!

Otherwise,please can the owner of the Subaru ,give your car to someone who can actually get a 4wd car of the line.

Mitchy260

Spend £500 on a remap sulli and he would have been in your rear view

sulli

I have been quoted £300 for e-maps to remap, they have got around 270ish from other LCRs, same as Revo, APR, Custom Code etc.
But.......I can't persuade the missus (we are moving house), and to be honest its quick enough normally, it's only on the rare occassions that I race such cars that it'd be worth it - most of the time I pi$$ on most things anyway, and driver skill is worth more than bhp. The traction would be an issue too at low speeds, it's bad enough standard.

SPEN555

No such thing as a Black UK300 STi?

UK300's were all blue and were not STi's.

J4CKO

iTrader: (1)

Meeting men in laybys.....

sulli

OK, I thought it was a UK300 cause of the way it looked, maybe just an Sti, massive brembos, gloss black wheels (18/19"), big spoiler.

sulli

Do you? Try www.gaydoggers.com, not here mate

KiwiGTI

So how does a FWD LCR that is unmodded and supposedly does 0-60 in 6.9s beat an AWD car that does it in ~5.0s, and then probably opens the gap further when going to 100?

J4CKO

iTrader: (1)

Sorry mate, couldnt resist, its the way you phrased it !

Not actually inferring you are a man enthusiast !

And I quote,

"I came up quick behind him "

"and saw he wanted to play"

"nice chap"

"not sure what his were like but mine were perfect"

"slightly uphill"

"him responding"

"we came to halt together"

"but when we went I got it perfect"

"gorgeous looking all black "

"and i'll keep a look out for him again"

Brun

sulli

You got me
Lovely bit of misquoting, which possibly indicates some latent issues, what would Freud make of it all?

KiwiGTI

Link doesn't work.

sulli

The quicker time to 60 is mainly down to 4wd clutch dropping starts, which the LCR cant do due to lack of traction with too much power through front wheels. Once rolling the LCR has less transmission loss, and is very quick in gear. And if he didn't do a 4-5000rpm clutch drop start, which he didn't, he aint getting a 5 sec 0-60.

sulli

Try this: www.illclickanythinghighlighlightedinblue.com

Brun

Spankathon

Not properly come up against any STi's as yet..... but WRX's (PPP) quickly disappear... this has spur'd me on.... good lad

Must echo Mitchy..... get it remapped.... you'll love it even more... try the REVO free trial then...

NWMark

A standard LCR would have no chance against an Sti, especially at 320 bhp.
Chipped LCR vs Sti, much better match, LCR probably winning depending on starting still or rolling.

My best guess is that it was a UK300 and he lied about his power claims, or it isnt a UK300 and he still lied about his power claims

Mark

alloy

Sounds like fun, however i'm dubious about his 320bhp claim

simo

would have done you in the twisties

chris_c201

I test drove an LCR and done some reading on them before i bought my Scoob...

Can't understand why everyone seems so "defensive" about this story, seems perfectly plausible to me, granted from a standing start the scoob would normally have the edge but as the guy states he nailed his start and maybe the scoob didn't and got bogged down....

Both lovely cars, personally i prefer scoobs but not to say LCR's are slow or not a match.....

crazyman1979

I have TSL333 Sti, mate has standard LCR, he cant keep anywhere near me, although a remap should see that right.
LOVE the LCR though and did think about one before i got the scoob...

Tripple'O G

I doubt very much it was 320bhp........
I'm running just a bit more than that and can quite easily see off porker 4S's and the like front start and rolling.........

I'm not having a go but i've had my fair share of LCR's and I haven't found them to be a test as of yet. True you don't loose nearly as much through transition but with the torque scoobs can spit out they just keep going and going and going and going.......

Not saying LCR's arn't quick, i'm saying I doubt the scoob was running what it was....

Stuart J

Wonder how my 350 bhp Octavia 4x4 would have done then ??

alloy

Spanked

sulli

Not sure how relevant, but I logged my LCR on vag.com with 295 lb/ft of torque - I think this is as accurate as you get for a torque reading, and is higher than standard - it's done a few miles and I guess is loosened up, tip top condition running perfectly, so maybe that exp[lains it a bit - plus, we all know ity's down to the driver.

Mitchy260

Wont be 295lbft as standard buddy.

Standard is 210lbft

If yours is 295lbft it is secretly remapped! It would explain why you had your encounter with the sti.

A 320bhp sti would not have any problems at all with a 225bhp LCR.
A remapped LCR and then yes it would have problems!

You sure yours is not remapped? The previous driver?

JCScooby

A WRX (PPP) quickly disapearing into the horizon ahead of u has spurred u on into taking on an STi? mmmmmm........strange