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25 April 2006, 01:46 PM
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GOOD!!!!
The quicker that crap car manufacturers fold, the better for the rest of us ...
Bye, Bye Trevor!!
You sounded good, looked good, but didn't go at all!!!
Pete
The quicker that crap car manufacturers fold, the better for the rest of us ...
Bye, Bye Trevor!!
You sounded good, looked good, but didn't go at all!!!
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25 April 2006, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
GOOD!!!!
The quicker that crap car manufacturers fold, the better for the rest of us ...
Bye, Bye Trevor!!
You sounded good, looked good, but didn't go at all!!!
Pete
The quicker that crap car manufacturers fold, the better for the rest of us ...
Bye, Bye Trevor!!
You sounded good, looked good, but didn't go at all!!!
Pete
The main problem was there reliability, but thats when used everyday, they were for track use really, people who bought them for everyday use were just kidding themselves, but its a shame to see them go, the noise they made was beautiful
25 April 2006, 02:05 PM
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According to Pistonheads it's just the Blackpool factory which is to close, not the company as a whole. Their lease is up in a few months time and if truth be told, it was never the most suitable place to build a car of any description. I'd expect to see basic assembly moved to a new factory in the UK to retain the Brit status, but many parts (such as engine building) to be moved into cheaper labour markets elsewhere. I had the opportunity to tour the factory a few years back, and it was a credit to the ability of the workers there that they managed to produce such wonderful cars in that environment. Sales have slumped recently I think because they aren't the performance bargain they once were. Their prices have risen into Porsche territory, and Porsche have cheaper cars in the lower price bracket now (Boxster and Cayman) which they cannot compete with on so many levels. £24k for a Chimera was OK, but the current range IRO £50k puts them out of their depth IMO.
Originally Posted by TVR Website
Official statement on Bristol Avenue cut-backs 25 April 2006
Following TVR's announcement last year that it is to discontinue production at its Bristol Avenue factory in Blackpool by 2007, the company has brought forward its plans to coincide with the cessation of its current lease, which would otherwise require long-term renewal. TVR is to relocate some of its assembly process to a more suitable facility, the exact details of which cannot yet be released.
The cars will continue to be hand-built to customers' orders by highly skilled craftsmen using mostly proprietary components, but the impressive new technology, processes and techniques with which they'll be constructed and tested are considerably more advanced. This will mean a significant and more consistent step-up in precision, quality, reliability and durability, as well as in compliancy with international requirements.
TVRs have been built at Bristol Avenue since the 1970s, so it is regrettable that cut-backs to the local production team have been necessary. TVR wishes to extend its thanks to all of its loyal staff at the factory, as well as its thoughts to all those who have had to be laid-off. The company is confident, however, that this difficult decision is the right one to secure its long-term stability and foothold within the competitive, low-volume sports car industry, as well as to continue to improve its product for the domestic and international marketplace.
The logistics arm of the business will also be modernised to improve the availability of parts and the timeframes within which they're delivered. The entire change-over has, of course, been carefully planned to minimise disruption, and all current authorised dealerships and service centres will remain completely unaffected by the move.
TVR also wishes to clarify that although slow winter sales hit the automotive industry as a whole, its sales have not slumped generally; demand has remained fairly constant for a number of years. The company remains financially stable and highly optimistic about its future.
As well as an encouragingly high level of interest at its showrooms, TVR is extremely confident in its ongoing plans: it is on schedule for achieving Euro IV emissions approval, which will enable it to sell more concertedly into Europe, and the developments for which will help with selling into the lucrative US and Middle East markets; it is exhibiting at the forthcoming Motor Show, for which it has several surprises planned; testing and production processes and component quality have all advanced markedly, and continue to do so; and a new marketing campaign is under way.
There has been an excellent reaction from the press and the public to TVR's newest and best ever models: the Sagaris coupe, the Tuscan convertible and the completely reworked Tuscan targa, all of which are now backed by a comprehensive three-year/36,000-mile warranty.
TVR is looking forward to enjoying the continued support of its customers and emphatic enthusiasts in the UK and throughout the world, as well as to attracting new ones with the positive progress of the company and its cars. TVR is also preparing for its 60th anniversary celebrations next year.
Following TVR's announcement last year that it is to discontinue production at its Bristol Avenue factory in Blackpool by 2007, the company has brought forward its plans to coincide with the cessation of its current lease, which would otherwise require long-term renewal. TVR is to relocate some of its assembly process to a more suitable facility, the exact details of which cannot yet be released.
The cars will continue to be hand-built to customers' orders by highly skilled craftsmen using mostly proprietary components, but the impressive new technology, processes and techniques with which they'll be constructed and tested are considerably more advanced. This will mean a significant and more consistent step-up in precision, quality, reliability and durability, as well as in compliancy with international requirements.
TVRs have been built at Bristol Avenue since the 1970s, so it is regrettable that cut-backs to the local production team have been necessary. TVR wishes to extend its thanks to all of its loyal staff at the factory, as well as its thoughts to all those who have had to be laid-off. The company is confident, however, that this difficult decision is the right one to secure its long-term stability and foothold within the competitive, low-volume sports car industry, as well as to continue to improve its product for the domestic and international marketplace.
The logistics arm of the business will also be modernised to improve the availability of parts and the timeframes within which they're delivered. The entire change-over has, of course, been carefully planned to minimise disruption, and all current authorised dealerships and service centres will remain completely unaffected by the move.
TVR also wishes to clarify that although slow winter sales hit the automotive industry as a whole, its sales have not slumped generally; demand has remained fairly constant for a number of years. The company remains financially stable and highly optimistic about its future.
As well as an encouragingly high level of interest at its showrooms, TVR is extremely confident in its ongoing plans: it is on schedule for achieving Euro IV emissions approval, which will enable it to sell more concertedly into Europe, and the developments for which will help with selling into the lucrative US and Middle East markets; it is exhibiting at the forthcoming Motor Show, for which it has several surprises planned; testing and production processes and component quality have all advanced markedly, and continue to do so; and a new marketing campaign is under way.
There has been an excellent reaction from the press and the public to TVR's newest and best ever models: the Sagaris coupe, the Tuscan convertible and the completely reworked Tuscan targa, all of which are now backed by a comprehensive three-year/36,000-mile warranty.
TVR is looking forward to enjoying the continued support of its customers and emphatic enthusiasts in the UK and throughout the world, as well as to attracting new ones with the positive progress of the company and its cars. TVR is also preparing for its 60th anniversary celebrations next year.
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Originally Posted by pslewis
GOOD!!!!
The quicker that crap car manufacturers fold, the better for the rest of us ...
Bye, Bye Trevor!!
You sounded good, looked good, but didn't go at all!!!
Pete
The quicker that crap car manufacturers fold, the better for the rest of us ...
Bye, Bye Trevor!!
You sounded good, looked good, but didn't go at all!!!
Pete
25 April 2006, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
GOOD!!!!
The quicker that crap car manufacturers fold, the better for the rest of us ...
Bye, Bye Trevor!!
You sounded good, looked good, but didn't go at all!!!
Pete
The quicker that crap car manufacturers fold, the better for the rest of us ...
Bye, Bye Trevor!!
You sounded good, looked good, but didn't go at all!!!
Pete
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Originally Posted by corradoboy
According to Pistonheads it's just the Blackpool factory which is to close, not the company as a whole. Their lease is up in a few months time and if truth be told, it was never the most suitable place to build a car of any description. I'd expect to see basic assembly moved to a new factory in the UK to retain the Brit status, but many parts (such as engine building) to be moved into cheaper labour markets elsewhere. I had the opportunity to tour the factory a few years back, and it was a credit to the ability of the workers there that they managed to produce such wonderful cars in that environment. Sales have slumped recently I think because they aren't the performance bargain they once were. Their prices have risen into Porsche territory, and Porsche have cheaper cars in the lower price bracket now (Boxster and Cayman) which they cannot compete with on so many levels. £24k for a Chimera was OK, but the current range IRO £50k puts them out of their depth IMO.
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25 April 2006, 05:51 PM
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I actually had the pleasure of briefly meeting the TVR man . .Guy looked quite unremarkable, and seemed a bit of a twirp . .
. .But saying that , no surprises there . As I always said only a thick Russian would get involved in the production of crap cars . . . Saying that, we did produce LADA's, so I guess it runs in the blood!
Don't worry lads! TVR is no such a great loss . .An old acquaintance of mine had a Tuscan , and he always said "Thay are unreliable, like all racing cars" . .My reply was . .Yes . .Just like the Porsche - which is also notoriously unreliable!
. .Saying that . .You will surely look good awaiting recovery in a TVR . . .
Disclaimer . .Am Russian myself, so i can make fun of Russian's at leisure!
. .But saying that , no surprises there . As I always said only a thick Russian would get involved in the production of crap cars . . . Saying that, we did produce LADA's, so I guess it runs in the blood!Don't worry lads! TVR is no such a great loss . .An old acquaintance of mine had a Tuscan , and he always said "Thay are unreliable, like all racing cars" . .My reply was . .Yes . .Just like the Porsche - which is also notoriously unreliable!
. .Saying that . .You will surely look good awaiting recovery in a TVR . . .Disclaimer . .Am Russian myself, so i can make fun of Russian's at leisure!
25 April 2006, 07:00 PM
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Sounds like a lot of people on here wont be sad to see them go then - wont it be great when Porsche have the sports car market all to themselves - theyre pretty common already, and looks like theyre set to become even more so 
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Originally Posted by pslewis
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Originally Posted by pslewis
GOOD!!!!
The quicker that crap car manufacturers fold, the better for the rest of us ...
Bye, Bye Trevor!!
You sounded good, looked good, but didn't go at all!!!
Pete
The quicker that crap car manufacturers fold, the better for the rest of us ...
Bye, Bye Trevor!!
You sounded good, looked good, but didn't go at all!!!
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26 April 2006, 08:06 AM
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I used to love TVR's. That v8 noise was addictive. Did once look at buying a TVR but unless it was going to be a second car, you knew there would be reliablity problems. However, several friends had them and really enjoyed them, especially on a hot summers day, driving to the pub.
However, since the new crop of models, the ones which had the cut outs in the bonnet, or those silly looking clear plastic strips on the back, or what look like motor bike exhausts, cant help feel they have lost their way and become over priced kit cars.
However, I still feel saddness that TVR is either closing or re-locating as its another sign how England is loosing its soul and becoming a service nation, instead of the creative one it once was.
TVR, Rover, Peugeot, certainly a bad period for car building and familes up north.
SBK
However, since the new crop of models, the ones which had the cut outs in the bonnet, or those silly looking clear plastic strips on the back, or what look like motor bike exhausts, cant help feel they have lost their way and become over priced kit cars.
However, I still feel saddness that TVR is either closing or re-locating as its another sign how England is loosing its soul and becoming a service nation, instead of the creative one it once was.
TVR, Rover, Peugeot, certainly a bad period for car building and familes up north.
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26 April 2006, 08:47 AM
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Owned one once....spent months finding the best one i could....one owner, mint history, etc, etc
Biggest pile of ****e i ever owned....build quility of a BAD kit car and realiability of.....well, i cant think of ANY other car that is expected to break down.
The fact they are still making them and people still expect them to break is a joke....trading standards should have shut them years ago for making things not fit for purpose.
Biggest pile of ****e i ever owned....build quility of a BAD kit car and realiability of.....well, i cant think of ANY other car that is expected to break down.
The fact they are still making them and people still expect them to break is a joke....trading standards should have shut them years ago for making things not fit for purpose.
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To be honest much of the image of unreliablility of TVR's comes from their own engines - of which the V8 was good, but the straight 6 prone to problems.
If TVR concentrated on just making some very cool looking cars, with all the usual details like door openers under the wing-mirrors etc - and used somebody elses engine then it could be a big plus for them.
Engine development must cost a fortune, and if you think about it most sports car brands dont develop their own engines - Zonda's use a Merc engine, Noble a Ford V6, Lotus use Toyota, a few use BMW V8's.
On pistonheads somebody fitted a Corvette 5.7 V8 into a Chimaera - maybe TVR should fit customer engines like this and just concentrate on the rest?
If TVR concentrated on just making some very cool looking cars, with all the usual details like door openers under the wing-mirrors etc - and used somebody elses engine then it could be a big plus for them.
Engine development must cost a fortune, and if you think about it most sports car brands dont develop their own engines - Zonda's use a Merc engine, Noble a Ford V6, Lotus use Toyota, a few use BMW V8's.
On pistonheads somebody fitted a Corvette 5.7 V8 into a Chimaera - maybe TVR should fit customer engines like this and just concentrate on the rest?
26 April 2006, 09:19 AM
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Makes sense that Pete, i think TVR's are fantastic looking, totally different to most other things on the market. They should use a BMW V8 or similar and concentrate on designing beautiful cars.
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Originally Posted by scoobygav555
Makes sense that Pete, i think TVR's are fantastic looking, totally different to most other things on the market. They should use a BMW V8 or similar and concentrate on designing beautiful cars.
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Yes it does make sense, for years they used Ford and Rover powerplants, letting others pay for the R&D and concentrated on makeing some beautiful if flawed cars. Owning a TVR was more of a hobby and the cars hardly everyday transport.
If they had kept thier prices under those of the competition and kept their niche of the market then i recon they would not be in this situation but then again what do i know
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Originally Posted by corradoboy
According to Pistonheads it's just the Blackpool factory which is to close, not the company as a whole. Their lease is up in a few months time and if truth be told, it was never the most suitable place to build a car of any description. I'd expect to see basic assembly moved to a new factory in the UK to retain the Brit status, but many parts (such as engine building) to be moved into cheaper labour markets elsewhere. I had the opportunity to tour the factory a few years back, and it was a credit to the ability of the workers there that they managed to produce such wonderful cars in that environment. Sales have slumped recently I think because they aren't the performance bargain they once were. Their prices have risen into Porsche territory, and Porsche have cheaper cars in the lower price bracket now (Boxster and Cayman) which they cannot compete with on so many levels. £24k for a Chimera was OK, but the current range IRO £50k puts them out of their depth IMO.
It's a shame though- as TVR have some great models that just seem to need a better start in life and some more spit and polish.
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