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Old 06 April 2006, 10:33 AM
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Default Noble M12.....opinions please!!

I am looking into getting a new car to replace my current BMW 330 ci sport convertible….

Two cars are of interest to me at present:

1. Porsche 996
2. Noble m12

I had my heart set on getting a 996, but having read a little into the M12 on Pistonheads, it seems to be a pretty amazing car for the money, and is certainly rarer and faster than the 996.

Do any of you have any experience of Noble ownership, I would be using it as more than just a weekend car, probably every day, but I don’t do much mileage ( 8k pa) as I have a 2nd banger to runabout in……

All constructive comments most welcome!

Thanks!
Old 06 April 2006, 10:36 AM
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Ive seen one before at the dartford toll crossing. Very very capable cars. Looked a bit like a toy though but id have one.
Old 06 April 2006, 10:49 AM
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Had a few at work, theyre very very well made and have a finish and fit that far exceeds any TVR.
I think theyre a stunning car, however not having owned one i woudlnt like to comment on reliability etc, but i havent heard any horror stories yet
Old 06 April 2006, 10:58 AM
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Personally, if it was my cash, I'd go for the 996. Evo magazine rave about the handling of the Noble, but to be it still looks a bit `Kit car`. Driving position is meant to be awkward as well.
The 996 is a precision tool, thats well made, will last forever, and should hold residuals well for years to come.

996 all the way for me.
Old 06 April 2006, 01:40 PM
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Yes, I agree that I stand to get better residuals on a well specced 996 than a noble, but theres just something about the noble, prob its rarity and monster performance, that are drawing me towards it......
Old 06 April 2006, 02:15 PM
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Go for the Noble - rarity and excessive fun. Made for the track. Excellent choice for Sunday driving. 996's good but too common me thinks.
Old 06 April 2006, 02:20 PM
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M12 all the way.... just like me in the not too distant future. been some real bargains sold of lately. but the house move had to come first...

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Old 06 April 2006, 02:24 PM
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give vegantune a call and ask them about nobles, they are the people to speak to.

Everyone I know with direct experience of them, says not to be fooled, they are nothing more than a kit car, and I heard the fit and finish was shocking, and far worse than TVR.
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Adam, not sure where you have heard this from re kit car build etc, the vast majority of my reading so far has given the impression that the m12 is far better built than TVRs, albeit not up to regular car standards....
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No luggage space - none at all!
Old 06 April 2006, 08:30 PM
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Personally I quite like the look of the noble. There is no doubt it has the weight distribution a lot better than the Porsche, has extremely sorted chassis and is generally a rather nice thing to drive. I'd love one, for the money it is a real baby supercar.

However, I have heard of one or two people blowing them up under "enthusiastic track use". This is all second-hand information at best, so I can't quote specifics or even verify it's true, but I'd be a little wary. 996 you just know will be well built, and if looked after properly will also last through track use without flinching.
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The engine in the noble originally came out of a minivan in america. The americans make fun of that point. Originally it had something like 130hp.
Old 06 April 2006, 08:39 PM
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Yeah a ford 2.5 litre Duratech, straight from the Mondeo.................
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Originally Posted by davyboy
Yeah a ford 2.5 litre Duratech, straight from the Mondeo.................
It was in the minivan along time ago before it was in the mondeo actually. Once again typing before you know all the facts.
Old 06 April 2006, 09:03 PM
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LOL at the poor mans Nacro.
Old 06 April 2006, 09:08 PM
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I guess the Americans laugh at the Aston Martin V12 too.

Then yanks, they kill me
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Interior comes from the Demon Tweeks catalogue
Old 06 April 2006, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by AudiLover
It was in the minivan along time ago before it was in the mondeo actually. Once again typing before you know all the facts.
Davyboy didn't say it was originally found in the Mondeo. Learn to read!
Old 06 April 2006, 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by AudiLover
It was in the minivan along time ago before it was in the mondeo actually. Once again typing before you know all the facts.
Still being special i see
Old 06 April 2006, 10:30 PM
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i have always liked the noble, what sort of £££ they going for now?
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Originally Posted by TopBanana
Davyboy didn't say it was originally found in the Mondeo. Learn to read!

Well actually thats what he was insinuating with all the peroids........................................... .
Old 06 April 2006, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by AudiLover
Well actually thats what he was insinuating with all the peroids........................................... .
Wow, I didn't realise the simple dot could convey such complicated concepts.
Old 07 April 2006, 07:51 AM
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Get some proof then AL......lets see it. If I learn something new then so be it.

Prove it like you didn't before.
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Originally Posted by davyboy
Get some proof then AL......lets see it. If I learn something new then so be it.

Prove it like you didn't before.
So now you will actually acknowledge factual evidence. Its good to see that your finally getting more advanced. Just give me a couple hours to put something together, as I havent got the time right now.
Old 07 April 2006, 08:43 AM
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a couple of hours to search google
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a couple of hours to search google
How about the Ladybird Book of Cars?
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I have a friend who went from 993, to Noble, to 996. The Noble, whilst very (very) fast, was too fragile and had all kinds of problems. The 993 was hassle free, the 996 is similar. Plus, I can get in the 996; the Noble was simply too cramped for me. I can get into a Fiat 500 mind...

Cheers
Old 07 April 2006, 03:55 PM
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My mate has had the GTO and now the M400, just been to the factory to order the new £75k version, searched him for cameras and everything !

Considering this guy has been through virtually every car going, it must be pretty special. It does look a bit odd at the back, but he only uses it on track so doesn’t care much. I have only been in the GTO which was fully track prepared with dry sump, roll cage and road legal slicks, very capable car.
Old 07 April 2006, 04:22 PM
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My mate has just got a Noble and it is awesome. Go and have a drive you won't be dissapointed. I know what I would go for now I have been in one!!!!!!


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