leekirlew

I'm thinking of buying this car. I've been looking around the web for 0-60 times and I've seen 7.2 secs, 6.7 secs and 8.5secs. Can anyone confirm the time? Does anyone have any experience with these motors? I'm going to look at one later, is there any common problems with them which I should be looking for?
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mozzaITA

I believe that 0-60 is between 7-8 seconds maybe slightly less on a rallye so 7.2 is more likely figure. I was looking at these but red up many snapped cambelt stories so i avoided them and bought a clio williams instead.

Mike123

Autocar tested the GTi-6 and the Rallye - got 7.9secs and 7.8 respectively.
Both about 21 seconds to 100 and 130mph max. 30-70 was 7.4 and 6.8 for the Gti-6 and Rallye respectively.
Performance Car got 0-60 in 7.2 and 0-100 in 20.1.
It also won the group test they did in the Jan 98 edition up against the other hot hatches of the time .

I don't think the raison d'etre of these cars is 0-60 though - more about B-road run and handling. There's faster little cars if you just want to indulge in the traffic light grand prix ;-)

I think there's a few people on here who should be able to tell you what they're like to live with from an owner's point of view

Gav

do a quick search on here and you'll find loads of info about them

ScoobyJawa

AP? LOL!

They are blistering cars - superb hot hatch

The cambelt stories are greatly exaggerated - they do eat cambelts, but the simple fix is just change them twice as often as peugeot state - its only a 200 quid job anyway. Its also supposedly a non-intererence engine so if it did go its bad luck for it to damage the engine.....

TonyBurns

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The worst thing about these cars is the turning circle, apart from that.... (ive owned 2 )

Tony

Hol

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One of my mates has got a Rallye one in Red. He did have a Fully loaded version with 17's on, for a couple of years beforehand.

I went in it for the first time on Saturday, as he bought me home from dropping the scoob at Extreme Scoobies.
To be honest I was quite surprised, its a bit noisy with the lack of soundproofing and the stainless exhaust he has fitted, but a good little car.

Reffro

Not in Leeds, but I know of a 98'R' 306 GTI-6 90k miles with FPSH for sale if anyone is interested.

Rich D

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Look in Evo magazine, the times are in the back...

GTi-6:

0-60 - 7.2secs
0-100 - 20.1secs


Rallye:

0-60 - 6.9secs
0-100 - 19.2secs


The Rallye is slightly quicker due to it being a bit lighter, as is the Phase 1 GTi-6 (like I currently have), although there's not a massive amount between all 3 on the road, I also had a Rallye a few years back.

0-60 isn't their strongpoint though, long initial gearing in 1st & 2nd means they don't feel quite as quick as they are, but 3rd gear on you're into very closely stacked ratio's and they really pull well from then on. Cross country pace is the 306's forte, superb chassis, good spread of power, lots of fun to drive fast, and can cover ground very quickly.

I've had a Clio 172 Cup and a Civic Type-R as well, the 306 won't beat them in any traffic light grand prix, but once rolling there's not much in it, and the 306 is the better B Road car, the others are a firm ride, the 306's chassis soaks up the road better at speed, and inspires confidence.


Cheap to run as well, insurance, parts, tyres, servicing, etc is all cheap, and they're not bad on fuel either, I can get 37mpg on a run and average around 30 or so on my daily commute, mixed driving.


Very good cars, a few sh!tters out there, but plenty of good ones too.

Rich D

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Basically it's not the belt that snaps, it's a tensioner that fails on the earlier cars, was rememedied on the later cars, post 98 I believe.

Peugeot recommend doing the belt at 70k miles, but the owners club recommend no more than 50k miles and when the belt's being done also to change the tensioner, pulley & water pump, eliminate any issues.

Both my 306's were done, they're fine.

Rich D

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Oh yeah, go look over on www.306gti6.com

leekirlew

thanks for the replies, going to look at a r reg tomorrow. which is the mk 1?

Gutmann pug

I think im right in saying the weight difference between the two cars is about 30KG?
Thats a hell of a performance difference for only 30kg isnt it?

Gary

curtis11

i had a gti6 for about 8 months, handling was superb but performance was shat, it never felt quick at all and it gave quite alot of bother.
it had full pug history only 60k and a ****e load of reciepts when i bought it.
i had a 93 vr6 golf before it and it always felt lame in comparison.
i would not buy another pugeot. ever.

Gutmann pug

You must have bought a wrong-un .....

TonyBurns

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Mine had 177bhp and that was standard on unleaded petrol!

Tony

Mike123

Autocar had the Rallye down as being 51kg lighter than the GTi-6 - there was a 0.8 second difference to 100 between the 2 examples they tested so it would appear to be consistent with what EVO got.

Rich D

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No, that will more than likely be a Phase 2 on an R-Reg

They only did the Phase 1's for a few months, late '96 P-Reg and a few early '97 P's as well.

Rich D

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It's 52kg actually... 1215kg for the GTi-6 and 1163kg for the Rallye...

wolfie28

I had a black 306 Rallye for a couple of years and it was a great car (wish I never sold it). Try it then buy it if you like it. Parts weren't cheap though.

Rich D

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Which parts?

Bits are cheap as chips and plenty of places do them...

leekirlew

thanks for the info, i decided to get a clio cup, pick it up monday!

curtis11

good move, and it wont look like a D-TURBO

TonyBurns

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They never did look like a D turbo, the GTi when it came out in phase 2 guise was the only 306 to have a full colour coded body kit, plus the round fogs, though my first GTi was a phase 1, and some guy in a tuned DT and his mates tried to race me, highly amusing especially when one of his mates waved good bye to me, i waved back and passed them

Tony

leekirlew

Its the car I originally wanted, but the Mrs reckoned we coudn't afford so I dropped my budget to 4K. Then friday night she found that her work will transfer her when we move next month so off we went. Should be a hell of a jump over my old Rover 220 GTI!

EVOLUTION

My RALLYE weighed 1115kg to the nearest 5kg. That was with driver and 1/4 tank of fuel, ie £10

that was done on the weigh bridge at work which is correct


this was mine and i had more fun in this than any other car






so much fun in fact im currently looking for another one. Going to be for my other half.


Never really had many problems with it. service it every 5k, make sure the cambelt has benn or is done along with the tensioner. Rallyes seemed to had stopped free falling in price, 4K should see you with a good example.

TBH, any self respecting enthusiast wouldnt take it back to peugeot once warranty has gone, they charge the earth for any repairs ans as such, mine ended up in a specialists evey 6 month or sooner if any work was required.

Agreed with the traffic light GP's, not going to take off like the impreza, in the wet i would still struggle for traction in 3rd, although if you wanted to, very easy to do. As tyres are quite expensive for them, make sure they have the correct profile on, 55's i believe, the far cheaper option is to go for the 50's, that may give you a clue as to the life its had, ie, the cheaper option??? plus, it didnt seem to handle right out on the country roads where this car really comes into its own (with the lower profile tyres on)

Final piece of advice, dont buy anything other than the red RALLYE, just take a look at it, nicer looking than the scoob anyday...

John

Rich D

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Just going off what Peugeot quote...

Dream Weaver

Then you will miss out on some of the most sublime hadnling cars ever made

Nothing comes close to Pugs for handling.

Trems

My mates just bought one of these, and very kindly taxi'd me all round the country looking at scoobies and eventually to yorkshire where i bought my latest one...

He thinks they are great cars and i'd have to agree, like me he's pretty picky about his cars and aside from the poor turning circle and the few squeeks and rattles (inevitable from french cars!) he loves it....i'll get him to post up on here with a full review if he doesnt mind.

Also, they sound awesome with a cone filter on!

-Paul

PeteGTI

They sound immense don't they Trems?

Can't recommend this car enough. There is very little that performs as well for the money. Half as much as a nice 172 cup thingy with cheaper insurance.

Cambelt is an issue if maintanence is neglected. People who neglect their cars deserve to get **** on anyway!? I'll change mine every 30K. Seen loads of examples going cheap with over 100K on them. But low mileage is best if only for selling on easily.

Bothered if it looks like a D Turbo...? Hmm, not really. Sooner not attract much attention with it to be fair. Has a Rover 620ti like surprise factor!

Turning circle is crap, due to the six speed box.