S3/RS3 announced
22 March 2006, 01:39 PM
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22 March 2006, 03:59 PM
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It looks more like a sport model, where are the silver mirrors ?!?! Could be a good car though with similar WHP as the golf, but with traction !
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22 March 2006, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by The_Gza
Looks a bit anonymous to me - the S Line kit on the standard A3 looks more aggressive than these pics.
Id price it at about 1grand above R32 money.
22 March 2006, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by john banks
Why won't someone make a sub 1500kg 3+ litre six cylinder turbo car with AWD?
That would give us Subaru refugees something to upgrade to.
That would give us Subaru refugees something to upgrade to.
22 March 2006, 08:26 PM
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I knew they'd made a 2 litre petrol-electric hybrid, with turbo in a lightweight coupe body with no plans to market it, but I hadn't heard about my next car yet? Any details?
22 March 2006, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by john banks
Why won't someone make a sub 1500kg 3+ litre six cylinder turbo car with AWD?
That would give us Subaru refugees something to upgrade to.
That would give us Subaru refugees something to upgrade to.
22 March 2006, 09:05 PM
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Legacy isn't available as a turbo in the UK. US has a 2.5 Turbo Legacy, Jap has high compression 2.0 Turbo with a five speed gearbox that might not take what I would want to put it through 
911 Turbo is nearer 1600kg, doesn't have enough storage for all the kit I carry and in standard form doesn't seem worth the money for the performance (flame suit applied) compared with a stage I Evo, but that looks as hard as nails, is two cylinders and a litre down and just doesn't do the daily car thing like a German car.
A 3.2 quattro A3 with a pair of turbos and a strong engine and gearbox would be just the ticket.
I've been wondering about an R34, but they seem to need silly power to perform well?
Supra appeals (as would supercharging the M3), but they are RWD and in Scotland that is not ideal when you like lots of boost...
HPA do some interesting packages for boosting the Golf R32, but I'd like to buy something with the engine and gearbox not needing anything except perhaps a better clutch and bolt ons.
911 Turbo is nearer 1600kg, doesn't have enough storage for all the kit I carry and in standard form doesn't seem worth the money for the performance (flame suit applied) compared with a stage I Evo, but that looks as hard as nails, is two cylinders and a litre down and just doesn't do the daily car thing like a German car.
A 3.2 quattro A3 with a pair of turbos and a strong engine and gearbox would be just the ticket.
I've been wondering about an R34, but they seem to need silly power to perform well?
Supra appeals (as would supercharging the M3), but they are RWD and in Scotland that is not ideal when you like lots of boost...
HPA do some interesting packages for boosting the Golf R32, but I'd like to buy something with the engine and gearbox not needing anything except perhaps a better clutch and bolt ons.
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22 March 2006, 09:10 PM
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You always find things to complain about, clearly one car will not do all you want. 1540kg is actually closer to 1500 kg than 1600 kg to be fair 
Why not buy 2 cars......i've done it (well 3 to be exact) and it works well.
Why not buy 2 cars......i've done it (well 3 to be exact) and it works well.
22 March 2006, 09:43 PM
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Thought it was 1579kg without driver and options, but I'll not split hairs.
I know what I want, just no one makes it yet
I used to dislike having two cars, and I don't want to drive around in a slow beater every day, so insurance gets a bit pricey, as well as more depreciation.
I know what I want, just no one makes it yet
I used to dislike having two cars, and I don't want to drive around in a slow beater every day, so insurance gets a bit pricey, as well as more depreciation.
22 March 2006, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by john banks
I knew they'd made a 2 litre petrol-electric hybrid, with turbo in a lightweight coupe body with no plans to market it, but I hadn't heard about my next car yet? Any details?
23 March 2006, 09:37 AM
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AWD hatch, saloon or coupe, six cylinders, 3+ litres and at least one turbo, and not too heavy, especially nose heavy.
ie something I can tune to 500BHP that can use it in terms of traction and a nice power band, with a bit of practicality.
300 BHP is nice and reliable/driveable out of a 1.8T or 2.0T for example, just scale it up to 3.0T or 3.2T.
Whilst Audis are getting more neutral in terms of putting more torque to the rear or moving the engine back behind the front axle, they are seemingly moving away from turbos on the bigger engines. Shame as the old RS4 engine when tuned is ace.
ie something I can tune to 500BHP that can use it in terms of traction and a nice power band, with a bit of practicality.
300 BHP is nice and reliable/driveable out of a 1.8T or 2.0T for example, just scale it up to 3.0T or 3.2T.
Whilst Audis are getting more neutral in terms of putting more torque to the rear or moving the engine back behind the front axle, they are seemingly moving away from turbos on the bigger engines. Shame as the old RS4 engine when tuned is ace.
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23 March 2006, 10:07 AM
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Looks naff to me, but that's only my opinion... As far as I know, the S3 will have a tuned version of the 2.0 engine that powers the Golf GTi, and will be generating about 240bhp. Which is better than a heavy 3.2 lump, I guess.
Supposed to be available late 2006.
Supposed to be available late 2006.
23 March 2006, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Duck_Pond
Looks naff to me, but that's only my opinion... As far as I know, the S3 will have a tuned version of the 2.0 engine that powers the Golf GTi, and will be generating about 240bhp. Which is better than a heavy 3.2 lump, I guess.
Supposed to be available late 2006.
Supposed to be available late 2006.
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23 March 2006, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by NWMark
cupramax posted a scan of an audi dealer spec sheet for the new S3 it was a 2.0T with 270PS, available late 2006 as you say.
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Can't see how Audi would be able to sell it as a flagship model with only 20PS difference. Would have though (no evidence) that it would have more like 300PS.
Personally, I'd really like one, but I'd prefer it has a tuned 3.2 V6 rather than 1.8T or 2.0T.
Was reading some time ago when a 350BHP RS3 was rumoured. Aparently Audi dismissed the idea, as it would take sales from the S4 and RS4. The reason being the RS3 would be lighter than the RS4, and would be just a quick (vertually). Why spend over £50k on a RS4 when you could spend, lets say £35k on a RS3, and go just as fast.
Hope they do build a RS3 though, as I'd lust after one of them. Can't see it being out, if at all, for at least 2 years. Just to give the S3 time to sell. Just look how long the S4 has been out before they've done the RS4.
23 March 2006, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by kammy
Heavy piece of turd- only good if you are after a 'swift' hatch when you are getting on a bit in life.
Unless you live next to Silverstone, I cant see how having a hatch thats heavy (due to safety, quality, and extras) can be considered detremental.
It'll be very quick, certainly quick enough for congested Britian, hold its value, be good fun (unless you do loads of track days and hardly ever drive ona typical road, in which case, get a Noble) on most road surfaces in most weather/road conditions, so really, I dont see why weight is such a big deal, I cant see it making a track car shortlist, and weight isnt that big a deal on the road.
23 March 2006, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by stilover
The S3 will need more than 270PS, as the 3.2 V6 has 250PS.
Can't see how Audi would be able to sell it as a flagship model with only 20PS difference.
Can't see how Audi would be able to sell it as a flagship model with only 20PS difference.
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23 March 2006, 03:55 PM
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As nicked off of AE's site:
In another exclusive scoop, Auto Express magazine has seen a document from Audi confirming that the new TT will go on sale before the end of 2006. A range-topping S3 will also appear before the year is out - the four-wheel-drive machine is likely to be powered by a 240bhp version of the firm's turbocharged 2.0-litre FSI powerplant. The document also confirms that the green light has been given to the new A5 coupé - a model revealed by Auto Express in issue 880. The A6-based two-door is scheduled to arrive in early 2007.
23 March 2006, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Duck_Pond
As nicked off of AE's site:
Well most of that data is factually incorrect as firstly 240hp would make the S3 slower than the 3.2 V6 and R32 and the new audi A5 will sit on a brand new platform and not that of the audi A6.
23 March 2006, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by AudiLover
Well most of that data is factually incorrect as firstly 240hp would make the S3 slower than the 3.2 V6 and R32 and the new audi A5 will sit on a brand new platform and not that of the audi A6.
Nice edit, btw
