Supercharged Sierra
02 February 2006, 11:58 PM
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It's got potential. Needs a good look at before bidding to ensure the tin worm hasn't got hold underneath. And that the engine isn't about to throw a rod.
Worst case is the front driveshaft going awol in the engine....makes quite a mess when it does - really needs cossy drivetrain to be durable on the track.
Worst case is the front driveshaft going awol in the engine....makes quite a mess when it does - really needs cossy drivetrain to be durable on the track.
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03 February 2006, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by stevebt
for an E reg old sierra 
your gonna look a right w4nker driving that old thing !!!
your gonna look a right w4nker driving that old thing !!!
04 February 2006, 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by stevebt
yes i would !!! but its a totally diffent car!! its like comparing an escort cosworth to a 2ltr 4x4 escort !!! its only a sierra xr4 and they werent that good in their day 
05 February 2006, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by stevebt
yes i would !!! but its a totally diffent car!! its like comparing an escort cosworth to a 2ltr 4x4 escort !!! its only a sierra xr4 and they werent that good in their day
05 February 2006, 11:48 AM
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Euch.. look at the colour of that coolant tank!
Seen some serious 'head action' I reckon, Or its never seen proper coolant.
Get a good look before you buy mate.....
Seen some serious 'head action' I reckon, Or its never seen proper coolant.
Get a good look before you buy mate.....
05 February 2006, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by steveb
its only a sierra xr4 and they werent that good in their day
I had 2 back around 1990, bought my second one new and did 60k miles in it in two years while mostly towing our Rally Car to and from events. Never missed a beat.
It did cost a fortune to run and petrol was below 50p a litre back then.
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06 February 2006, 10:15 PM
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Moley, I owned an XR4I back in the day they were new. I took it to Power Engineering who sent the engine away for a 3.1 litre and when it came back they supercharged it. (In fact I still have the engine and charger somewhere).
It was featured in Performance Ford at some point.
Power Engineering couldn't get it right despite several attempts. There were fuelling issues which I suspect they never got right on future cars, although I can't be sure.
A separate fuelling system would have cured it instead of trying to modify Fords Bosch Jetronic system which wasn't up to it. However we did track the car for a bit and it was great fun with circa 280bhp back in the late 80's. (With 3.1 engine).
Mine pinked like a búgger at times but went very well when it worked. A friend had a new 3 door Cosworth at the time and it left that comprehensively.
The torque was great and the supercharger whine was even better. The install was lovely, it was just a shame it never ran well 100% of the time.
It was a £3500 conversion at the time just for the supercharger. That car will be 240bhp from new.
It was featured in Performance Ford at some point.
Power Engineering couldn't get it right despite several attempts. There were fuelling issues which I suspect they never got right on future cars, although I can't be sure.
A separate fuelling system would have cured it instead of trying to modify Fords Bosch Jetronic system which wasn't up to it. However we did track the car for a bit and it was great fun with circa 280bhp back in the late 80's. (With 3.1 engine).
Mine pinked like a búgger at times but went very well when it worked. A friend had a new 3 door Cosworth at the time and it left that comprehensively.
The torque was great and the supercharger whine was even better. The install was lovely, it was just a shame it never ran well 100% of the time.
It was a £3500 conversion at the time just for the supercharger. That car will be 240bhp from new.
07 February 2006, 10:12 PM
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A buddy i knew had a XR4x4 with a Turbo Tecnics conversion, and i think that was pumping out something like 240bhp, this was (i think) around 1990.
Although probably no faster than a Scoob nowadays it felt like a rocket ship to me back then, especially when all your other mates had MK2 1.3 Escorts and 1.6 Capri's. It was a lovely car 'till he blew it up
Although probably no faster than a Scoob nowadays it felt like a rocket ship to me back then, especially when all your other mates had MK2 1.3 Escorts and 1.6 Capri's. It was a lovely car 'till he blew it up
07 February 2006, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by The Chief
A buddy i knew had a XR4x4 with a Turbo Tecnics conversion, and i think that was pumping out something like 240bhp, this was (i think) around 1990.
Although probably no faster than a Scoob nowadays it felt like a rocket ship to me back then, especially when all your other mates had MK2 1.3 Escorts and 1.6 Capri's. It was a lovely car 'till he blew it up
Although probably no faster than a Scoob nowadays it felt like a rocket ship to me back then, especially when all your other mates had MK2 1.3 Escorts and 1.6 Capri's. It was a lovely car 'till he blew it up
As said above the MT75 gearbox was never a good gearbox, it had more throw than a darts player and wasn't strong.
07 February 2006, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by paulpalmer
I abused the **** out of my mt75 and it took it everytime. If I tried that abuse with my Legacy I know it'd just explode!
does your legacy have a turbo??? your only looking back at what you thought was good, if you had them back to back it would be a different story
08 February 2006, 12:14 AM
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Yes my legacy is a turbo but the gearbox on early uk cars (same as impreza) are known to be weak. Mine isn't great and it's only a matter of time 'til it goes pop but the Sierra box always felt good to me with a 2.9 Maybe more power makes it feel weak though because I'm running nearly double the power of my old xr4x4s
Maybe more power makes it feel weak though because I'm running nearly double the power of my old xr4x4s
08 February 2006, 08:26 AM
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i dont think it was the power but probably the torque that killed the box's on my mates cossie, he never really revs the thing just uses the midrange grunt, and its 3rd gear or 4th gear that disintergrates. he hasnt had a problem since he bolted a staight cut in there though, so pretty much proves its the lack of cog strength.
08 February 2006, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
It's got potential. Needs a good look at before bidding to ensure the tin worm hasn't got hold underneath. And that the engine isn't about to throw a rod.
Worst case is the front driveshaft going awol in the engine....makes quite a mess when it does - really needs cossy drivetrain to be durable on the track.
Worst case is the front driveshaft going awol in the engine....makes quite a mess when it does - really needs cossy drivetrain to be durable on the track.
08 February 2006, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by stevebt
does your legacy have a turbo??? your only looking back at what you thought was good, if you had them back to back it would be a different story
Plus, if you're a bit on the chunky side, the XR has the comfiest chairs Ford ever fitted in a car
08 February 2006, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by CrisPDuk
I've owned a 2.8 XR4x4 for the last 11 years, and a Legacy Turbo for 5. The Legacy p!sses all over the Sierra in terms of speed and grip, but for handling and sheer smiles per miles, it's the Ford every time I'm afraid
Plus, if you're a bit on the chunky side, the XR has the comfiest chairs Ford ever fitted in a car
Plus, if you're a bit on the chunky side, the XR has the comfiest chairs Ford ever fitted in a car
My old 2.9 was modified but not running much more than 175bhp but my legacy is closer to 270bhp at a guess. That makes it a different car and no longer comparable. If I had to have a standard one of either I'm not sure which I'd rather have 
The legacy is easier to tune though if you want to go the modified route but as standard the sierra would be more fun but slower.
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08 February 2006, 04:17 PM
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Get your bum on Passionford Moley mate.
www.passionford.com
I used to want a 4x4 Sierra years ago when i saw one for sale in the paper in Diamond white 1986 d-reg.
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I used to want a 4x4 Sierra years ago when i saw one for sale in the paper in Diamond white 1986 d-reg.
09 February 2006, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by paulpalmer
It depends how much power you're running My old 2.9 was modified but not running much more than 175bhp but my legacy is closer to 270bhp at a guess. That makes it a different car and no longer comparable. If I had to have a standard one of either I'm not sure which I'd rather have The legacy is easier to tune though if you want to go the modified route but as standard the sierra would be more fun but slower.
My old 2.9 was modified but not running much more than 175bhp but my legacy is closer to 270bhp at a guess. That makes it a different car and no longer comparable. If I had to have a standard one of either I'm not sure which I'd rather have The legacy is easier to tune though if you want to go the modified route but as standard the sierra would be more fun but slower.The Sierra is on Escort Cossie springs & biltsteins, Rose Jointed TCAs, compression struts & ARB, 3 door cossie brakes & 15" RS1600i rims. The Leggy is on STiV suspension, MY2000 gearbox, brakes & 16" rims, and I stand by my original statement
PS: As an aside, putting a late Impreza 'box in the Legacy was the single best mod I've done to it, I'm sure the viscous is geared differently, the ****** oversteers like a good 'un now
10 February 2006, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by CrisPDuk
PS: As an aside, putting a late Impreza 'box in the Legacy was the single best mod I've done to it, I'm sure the viscous is geared differently, the ****** oversteers like a good 'un now
When that goes pop I'll uprate it