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Old 17 January 2006, 11:26 AM
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Question Oil burner - what have I missed?

As I am:


A. Tight.

B. Looking to buy my own place.

C. Spending spare cash on my track car.

D. Bored of going to the petrol station.

E. ...of the opinion that a road car is simply a means to an end and nothing more....


...I want a DIESEL!!!!

Now: 8 grand ish, 50mpg combined, 4 seats, comfortable, good performance.

Looked at Golf, Passat, Vectra (new shape).

What have I missed??


N.B. No Mondeo's please. We have a pool car and as nice as it is to drive - it's flimsy and ****e.
Old 17 January 2006, 11:30 AM
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If you could survive 40 mpg, how about an A4 2.5 or 2.5 quattro, an early 530d would be my choice.

D
Old 17 January 2006, 11:30 AM
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Focus?
Seat?
Old 17 January 2006, 11:32 AM
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Would you have to borrow money to get your 15 mpg more?

Not sure how long that would take before you realise any payback.

£200 a month loan would go a long way towards a mortgage.
Old 17 January 2006, 11:33 AM
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Astra?
Avensis?
A3?
Mazda6?
Bora?
Old 17 January 2006, 11:36 AM
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8 grand - no loan. Any more, then yes, loan required. Though, would have it paid off within a few months the amount of overtime I'm currently getting.


I want a reliable car, new ish.


Bora - I'd prefer a Passat or Golf for the money.

Vectra - I like the 2.2 SRi DTI.

Seat - the TDi Cupra is a great car, a mate has one but a bit pricey and wouldn't want the basic Leon really.

Passat 130TDi looks promising I must admit. Quickest, and most efficient!!!

Audi - pricey, plus I find the A3 very dull looking, even compared to the Vectra.

Avensis - err, tell me more....

Mazda6 - "I don't like it".
Old 17 January 2006, 11:41 AM
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Weren't you going on about a Superb before?

Listen, spending 8k on a car when you need a deposit for a house is not sound financial planning!
Old 17 January 2006, 11:46 AM
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Ocvtavia - near VW build quality, VW TDI PD engines.

A lot of car for the money and TG etc rae their after sales service etc as one of the best!!

GB
Old 17 January 2006, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by davyboy
Weren't you going on about a Superb before?

Listen, spending 8k on a car when you need a deposit for a house is not sound financial planning!
Yeah, need a car though!! That is a must.

Like the Superb yeah - don't fit in the garage though. Boo.
Old 17 January 2006, 11:51 AM
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But if you are moving - there is a very good chance you wont have a garage. And wont the track car be in the garage?
Old 17 January 2006, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Senior_AP
Yeah, need a car though!! That is a must.

Like the Superb yeah - don't fit in the garage though. Boo.
Isn't the Passat the same size as the Superb? That's one off your list if so.

Octavia for value maybe? Something French would be cheaper - Pug 307 Hdi or summat - but perhaps there's only so much of that sort of thing a man can take.
Old 17 January 2006, 12:07 PM
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You could get a Golf TDI for less than £8k, if you are willing to look at the lower powered options.

The Golf TDI 130 will be in budget, but near the top end. It would be difficult to find a Golf TDI 150 at your budget without high mileage.

Boras are cheaper, so you may be able to get a newer car for your money, but IMHO not as good looking as the Golf, Leon, Octavia, etc.
Old 17 January 2006, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Jonathan Davies
Isn't the Passat the same size as the Superb? That's one off your list if so.

Octavia for value maybe? Something French would be cheaper - Pug 307 Hdi or summat - but perhaps there's only so much of that sort of thing a man can take.

Superb is a long wheel based Passat, so no it's longer.

Passat TDi 130bhp looking promising still.

Don't they sound ****e though, really agricultural??
Old 17 January 2006, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by davyboy
But if you are moving - there is a very good chance you wont have a garage. And wont the track car be in the garage?
Track car is being kept warm in a garage in a small village 8 miles away from me. A friend with an empty garage.

Which reminds me, went to take it out on Sunday. After re-charging the flat battery it started first fire. After nearly a quarter of a year without it being touched!!!
Old 17 January 2006, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Senior_AP
Superb is a long wheel based Passat, so no it's longer.

Passat TDi 130bhp looking promising still.

Don't they sound ****e though, really agricultural??
Ah, live n learn. Superbs do look big.

Not sure about sound... a diesel is never gong to be brilliant in that department. My brother in law has a Passat (1.8t) and loves it, apart from fuel consumption. Octavia too small then?
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A mate just picked up an A3 TDI on a 51 plate with 63kup for £8k. Goes very well.

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Old 17 January 2006, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Jonathan Davies
Ah, live n learn. Superbs do look big.

Not sure about sound... a diesel is never gong to be brilliant in that department. My brother in law has a Passat (1.8t) and loves it, apart from fuel consumption. Octavia too small then?

Octavia, I dunno, the vRS is nice but the diesel ones are proper old mans car innit.

Passat over them for me I think.
Old 17 January 2006, 01:39 PM
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Once run-in (i.e. about 25,000 miles ) Passat PD130 is very quiet apart from cold starts on winter mornings, but Shell Diesel Extra / BP Ultimate do cut the noise quite a lot. At m/way cruise the engine is very quiet, bit louder at peak rpm but you don't need to take it that far very often.

There should be lots of the just-replaced Passats coming onto the market soon. The pick is the Sport (20mm lowered suspension, hi-torque engine, 6-speed box, climate, 6CD in-dash changer etc).

I've had mine for 3 years, averaged a real 47mpg in 40K miles, total problems one blown brake light bulb.

Nice solid interior, handling is safe but uninspiring, long-distance comfort really good, torque is great.

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Old 18 January 2006, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by brickboy
Once run-in (i.e. about 25,000 miles ) Passat PD130 is very quiet apart from cold starts on winter mornings, but Shell Diesel Extra / BP Ultimate do cut the noise quite a lot. At m/way cruise the engine is very quiet, bit louder at peak rpm but you don't need to take it that far very often.

There should be lots of the just-replaced Passats coming onto the market soon. The pick is the Sport (20mm lowered suspension, hi-torque engine, 6-speed box, climate, 6CD in-dash changer etc).

I've had mine for 3 years, averaged a real 47mpg in 40K miles, total problems one blown brake light bulb.

Nice solid interior, handling is safe but uninspiring, long-distance comfort really good, torque is great.

Ace. I hear nothing but excellent stories about these.
Old 18 January 2006, 11:23 AM
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personally i would have one of 2 cars for what you have in mind. A Volvo S60 D5, becuase i love volvo's, they are tuneable to over 200hp / 350 lb/ft if need be and they sound like an Audi Quattro:

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or

An Alfa 156 2.4 JTD, because it has a Volvo engine, sounds like a Audi quattro, is very tuneable and is better looking than a Volvo !:

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2002 52 Reg ALFA ROMEO 156 2.4 JTD Veloce
4 Doors, Manual 5 speed, Saloon, Diesel, 51,000 miles, Metallic Pewter grey, 1 Owner. Full light grey leather interi. Dual climate control. Centre arm. Facelift dash. Central locking. Electric windows. Power steering. Multi-airbags. Stereo. CD. 17" GT alloys and skirts. DFSH. Outstanding looks and condition. All usual dealer facilities. Credit cards accepted. £7,995.

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I agree with davyboy, you should put that £8k into the house thus reducing your mortgage payments, then get yourself something cheap to run about in.

I bought a crappy old Rover when we bought our first house just to get me to work, but it reduced the mortgage bills.

You could buy something decent for £2k, like a 98 model Primera or something, 40mpg, toys, comfort, reliability.
Old 18 January 2006, 11:41 AM
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How many miles a day are you doing Senior?
Old 18 January 2006, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
How many miles a day are you doing Senior?

60 miles every other day.....

12 miles every other - "other" day.
Old 18 January 2006, 12:37 PM
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so half what i do in a WRX then?
Old 18 January 2006, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by DonnieDarko
so half what i do in a WRX then?
I think only you could answer that question....?



So, yeah I guess. I'm tight.
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