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anyone had the experiance of a mr2 turbo , good points bad points what to watch for ect ect . think my scooby days are over and fancy some rwd action. i know they are hairdressers cars but i dont care.(better than chav image) cheers
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Since i'm in passing you might want to drop in on IMOC.co.uk. I'm a Mk1 driver so I cant help but I'm sure someone there will have more information for you. It is also quite likely some members are also either scoob owners or former owners so should be able to give you a comparison.
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Originally Posted by sadako
Since i'm in passing you might want to drop in on IMOC.co.uk. I'm a Mk1 driver so I cant help but I'm sure someone there will have more information for you. It is also quite likely some members are also either scoob owners or former owners so should be able to give you a comparison.
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My mate had one.
Good points extremely fast acceleration, beating two classic Subarus no problems. They look good for their age and also the stealth look as most people think that they are just the 150 bhp n/a version to look at. Very Very easy to do donuts in (if thats what you are after)
Bad points Limited to 112 or 120mph ? My mates engine blew up after getting it de- restricted (bad luck maybe?) Pretty dangerous in the wet due to rear wheel drive and lots of power.
If you get a good one I think you will be very happy.
Good points extremely fast acceleration, beating two classic Subarus no problems. They look good for their age and also the stealth look as most people think that they are just the 150 bhp n/a version to look at. Very Very easy to do donuts in (if thats what you are after)
Bad points Limited to 112 or 120mph ? My mates engine blew up after getting it de- restricted (bad luck maybe?) Pretty dangerous in the wet due to rear wheel drive and lots of power.
If you get a good one I think you will be very happy.
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Originally Posted by gazbrook
My mate had one.
Good points extremely fast acceleration, beating two classic Subarus no problems. They look good for their age and also the stealth look as most people think that they are just the 150 bhp n/a version to look at. Very Very easy to do donuts in (if thats what you are after)
Bad points Limited to 112 or 120mph ? My mates engine blew up after getting it de- restricted (bad luck maybe?) Pretty dangerous in the wet due to rear wheel drive and lots of power.
If you get a good one I think you will be very happy.
Good points extremely fast acceleration, beating two classic Subarus no problems. They look good for their age and also the stealth look as most people think that they are just the 150 bhp n/a version to look at. Very Very easy to do donuts in (if thats what you are after)
Bad points Limited to 112 or 120mph ? My mates engine blew up after getting it de- restricted (bad luck maybe?) Pretty dangerous in the wet due to rear wheel drive and lots of power.
If you get a good one I think you will be very happy.
good points are that its toyota so its reliable,fast enough car,220bhp or so(and the n/a version is 165bhp).still look good and get looks..
bas points are very dodgy handling car indeed especially in the wet.
and i dont know what classics ur referring to cos they sure as hell wouldnt take an sti
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yes i think i seen that vid where the sti + mr2 1/4 mile it and sti gets 2-3 car lengths on it. same old story for the scoob , rolling start WOULD be a differnt story.
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Originally Posted by flat4_ire
bas points are very dodgy handling car indeed especially in the wet.
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Originally Posted by gazbrook
My mate had one.
Good points extremely fast acceleration, beating two classic Subarus no problems. They look good for their age and also the stealth look as most people think that they are just the 150 bhp n/a version to look at. Very Very easy to do donuts in (if thats what you are after)
Bad points Limited to 112 or 120mph ? My mates engine blew up after getting it de- restricted (bad luck maybe?) Pretty dangerous in the wet due to rear wheel drive and lots of power.
If you get a good one I think you will be very happy.
Good points extremely fast acceleration, beating two classic Subarus no problems. They look good for their age and also the stealth look as most people think that they are just the 150 bhp n/a version to look at. Very Very easy to do donuts in (if thats what you are after)
Bad points Limited to 112 or 120mph ? My mates engine blew up after getting it de- restricted (bad luck maybe?) Pretty dangerous in the wet due to rear wheel drive and lots of power.
If you get a good one I think you will be very happy.
do they come with oil coolers? , thats what put me off scoobys. i have spent numerous ocations sitting at 130+ unaware that i am cooking my engine as i ave no oil temp gauge
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Hey iv just moved from mr2 tubby to a scooby.
Must say they are great cars, quite easy to do basic tunning. Prices for them are very good just now if ur buying.
The mid engine RWD is very unforgiving mid-exiting corners if u dont get it right u will spin not drift!
Any spisific info u need just ask and ill try help.
www.mr2oc.co.uk - best site for help and advice, and also a good starting point for buying a really good car.
Must say they are great cars, quite easy to do basic tunning. Prices for them are very good just now if ur buying.
The mid engine RWD is very unforgiving mid-exiting corners if u dont get it right u will spin not drift!
Any spisific info u need just ask and ill try help.
www.mr2oc.co.uk - best site for help and advice, and also a good starting point for buying a really good car.
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Do a search. Loads of threads on them.
I can't be arsed typing (repeating) but will say they are hard to drive well and require attention to drive fast, unlike scoobs, evos etc.
And they'r mega reliable too.
I can't be arsed typing (repeating) but will say they are hard to drive well and require attention to drive fast, unlike scoobs, evos etc.
And they'r mega reliable too.
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Originally Posted by swtmerce
I think that's pretty misinformed. They have exceptional handling, but at the limit - that's when it gets dodgy. But I believe that was only for the early models. Later models had their suspension tweaked and sorted.
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ok u havent got a clue what ur talking about, they do NOT do donuts very easily at all!no lsd and too much weight at rear.. bad points limited to 112mph!?lol, its a jap man thats the way it is,and ur mates engine didnt blow up because he got it derestricted!
good points are that its toyota so its reliable,fast enough car,220bhp or so(and the n/a version is 165bhp).still look good and get looks..
bas points are very dodgy handling car indeed especially in the wet.
and i dont know what classics ur referring to cos they sure as hell wouldnt take an sti
good points are that its toyota so its reliable,fast enough car,220bhp or so(and the n/a version is 165bhp).still look good and get looks..
bas points are very dodgy handling car indeed especially in the wet.
and i dont know what classics ur referring to cos they sure as hell wouldnt take an sti
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watch out for corroded and leaking pipes running the length of the car, cooling system is quite complicated and expensive to fix i had to learn the hard way. Brakes are not a good match for the speed they do and believe me you wouldnt want to have a high speed crash in one they just crumple.
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Originally Posted by gazbrook
I have seen a lot of your posts with a serious chip on your shoulder , but numptys like you are what make Scoobynet. Well you must be a $hit driver then,I managed to donut no problems and it was the first donut I had ever tried(see , i can be a smart **** too). Yes I know its Jap "MAN" , I was just stating something that is still a fact,it does 112mph before being de-restricted .As for beating the classics,did I say they were STI'S? One had an Sti spoiler but we flew past him that quick we couldn't get a look to see what it was.I'm still quite confident it would beat an Sti even IF they weren't. Oh and Sorry for being 15bhp out on the n/a version.
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Originally Posted by StudentScooby
watch out for corroded and leaking pipes running the length of the car, cooling system is quite complicated and expensive to fix i had to learn the hard way. Brakes are not a good match for the speed they do and believe me you wouldnt want to have a high speed crash in one they just crumple.
thats more like it , just need to know the bad points when i look at them.
handbags at dawn for you two then.
flat4 bloke i have noticed you are a **** lately
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these are quick cars and i've had one, great fun and yes you can do donuts and drift them easily so don't listen to the guys on here that can't drive, a STi impreza isn't that quick and a chipped MR2 would easily be quicker and i know this cos my old one was and my mate had a STi at the time, loads of people on here think their impreza is the fastest thing on the road and unless its had loads of mods it isn't!!
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i agree, many "modern" scoobs can be left behind by modded everyday cars, for example a corsa with a 2.0 engine will be much lighter than a factory output scoob and give it a run for it's money. calibra 2.0 turbo, or rover 220 tomcat will also be much lighter than modern scoobs and i'm sure will be faster in some cases. but of course the "gas guzzlers" will also beat the scoobs in the right conditions the pulsar gtir, nissan 300zx tt, supra tt and skyline gtir, all faster on a straight (in most cases) but hefty on the wallet in the fuel dept. just my thoughts
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Having owned an MR2 Turbo (well, still do actually), I'm happy to offer my opinion too. It's a car which demands much more respect from the driver than most other cars on the road, simply because if you treat it nasty then it'll probably bite you back... especially in the wet.
The 1989-1991 models were a serious drivers car, but Toyota toned down the handling from 1991 onwards. All have standard power ranging from 220 bhp to 240 bhp following the 1994 models.
Compared to the Impreza it's chalk and cheese. I can sink into the Impreza and let it drive me to work if I really want it to... but the MR2 is non-stop driver interraction, if you see what I mean.
I have a 1993 model which has c. 250 bhp and recall having some fun with some STi Classics a few years back, and although I came out on top, you have to ask whether they a) were trying or b) even cared... and given some serious twisties I'm sure the STi's would have left me behind for sure.
Now my daily car is a MY00 UK Turbo and I love it. If I climb into the MR2 it's like a different world and has a totally different feel.
If you're bored with AWD and fancy some serious thrills with RWD then an MR2 Turbo is a very cost-effective way of putting a smile on your face. But do be careful because if they bite, you *will* know. If you purchase one, make sure tyres and a 4-wheel alignment are your first ports of call.
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The 1989-1991 models were a serious drivers car, but Toyota toned down the handling from 1991 onwards. All have standard power ranging from 220 bhp to 240 bhp following the 1994 models.
Compared to the Impreza it's chalk and cheese. I can sink into the Impreza and let it drive me to work if I really want it to... but the MR2 is non-stop driver interraction, if you see what I mean.
I have a 1993 model which has c. 250 bhp and recall having some fun with some STi Classics a few years back, and although I came out on top, you have to ask whether they a) were trying or b) even cared... and given some serious twisties I'm sure the STi's would have left me behind for sure.
Now my daily car is a MY00 UK Turbo and I love it. If I climb into the MR2 it's like a different world and has a totally different feel.
If you're bored with AWD and fancy some serious thrills with RWD then an MR2 Turbo is a very cost-effective way of putting a smile on your face. But do be careful because if they bite, you *will* know. If you purchase one, make sure tyres and a 4-wheel alignment are your first ports of call.
Jonts.
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btw just have to co-ordinate between forums, find the right roads and the right people with the right cars in the right area, with people who have some decent camcorders and the film could do all the talking
hmm, too much beer tonight
hmm, too much beer tonight
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sorry jonty...
Originally Posted by Jonty
Having owned an MR2 Turbo (well, still do actually), I'm happy to offer my opinion too. It's a car which demands much more respect from the driver than most other cars on the road, simply because if you treat it nasty then it'll probably bite you back... especially in the wet.
The 1989-1991 models were a serious drivers car, but Toyota toned down the handling from 1991 onwards. All have standard power ranging from 220 bhp to 240 bhp following the 1994 models.
Compared to the Impreza it's chalk and cheese. I can sink into the Impreza and let it drive me to work if I really want it to... but the MR2 is non-stop driver interraction, if you see what I mean.
I have a 1993 model which has c. 250 bhp and recall having some fun with some STi Classics a few years back, and although I came out on top, you have to ask whether they a) were trying or b) even cared... and given some serious twisties I'm sure the STi's would have left me behind for sure.
Now my daily car is a MY00 UK Turbo and I love it. If I climb into the MR2 it's like a different world and has a totally different feel.
If you're bored with AWD and fancy some serious thrills with RWD then an MR2 Turbo is a very cost-effective way of putting a smile on your face. But do be careful because if they bite, you *will* know. If you purchase one, make sure tyres and a 4-wheel alignment are your first ports of call.
Jonts.
The 1989-1991 models were a serious drivers car, but Toyota toned down the handling from 1991 onwards. All have standard power ranging from 220 bhp to 240 bhp following the 1994 models.
Compared to the Impreza it's chalk and cheese. I can sink into the Impreza and let it drive me to work if I really want it to... but the MR2 is non-stop driver interraction, if you see what I mean.
I have a 1993 model which has c. 250 bhp and recall having some fun with some STi Classics a few years back, and although I came out on top, you have to ask whether they a) were trying or b) even cared... and given some serious twisties I'm sure the STi's would have left me behind for sure.
Now my daily car is a MY00 UK Turbo and I love it. If I climb into the MR2 it's like a different world and has a totally different feel.
If you're bored with AWD and fancy some serious thrills with RWD then an MR2 Turbo is a very cost-effective way of putting a smile on your face. But do be careful because if they bite, you *will* know. If you purchase one, make sure tyres and a 4-wheel alignment are your first ports of call.
Jonts.
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I too have had an MR2 Turbo Rev 2.
I found this car to be great fun, ultra-reliable and never failed to put a smile on my face. The T Bar roof was brilliant in summmer, or any time you got a bit of sun.
I made a few subtle mods to it, nothing extreme. Got rid of the standard exhaust and replaced with a single exit 5Zigen exhaust, which was loud and not to everyones taste, but transformed the car. Also put some nice wheels on it and a thorough service and that was enough, didnt even up the boost.
Only got rid of it coz a type WRX STi Type R was calling, but would defo get another one, and if I need some cash and had to sell my current car, Supra TT6, then an MR2 would defo be worth looking at.
You get a lot of bang for your buck.
I also found the handling of the car very good, although you will always hear the scare stories about one thing or another. respect the car and it will respect you.
If you like em, I say take one for a spin (not literatlly ) and you will then love em!
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I found this car to be great fun, ultra-reliable and never failed to put a smile on my face. The T Bar roof was brilliant in summmer, or any time you got a bit of sun.
I made a few subtle mods to it, nothing extreme. Got rid of the standard exhaust and replaced with a single exit 5Zigen exhaust, which was loud and not to everyones taste, but transformed the car. Also put some nice wheels on it and a thorough service and that was enough, didnt even up the boost.
Only got rid of it coz a type WRX STi Type R was calling, but would defo get another one, and if I need some cash and had to sell my current car, Supra TT6, then an MR2 would defo be worth looking at.
You get a lot of bang for your buck.
I also found the handling of the car very good, although you will always hear the scare stories about one thing or another. respect the car and it will respect you.
If you like em, I say take one for a spin (not literatlly ) and you will then love em!
Just my 2p
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Originally Posted by gazbrook
I have seen a lot of your posts with a serious chip on your shoulder , but numptys like you are what make Scoobynet. Well you must be a $hit driver then,I managed to donut no problems and it was the first donut I had ever tried(see , i can be a smart **** too). Yes I know its Jap "MAN" , I was just stating something that is still a fact,it does 112mph before being de-restricted .As for beating the classics,did I say they were STI'S? One had an Sti spoiler but we flew past him that quick we couldn't get a look to see what it was.I'm still quite confident it would beat an Sti even IF they weren't. Oh and Sorry for being 15bhp out on the n/a version.
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Originally Posted by rexabusa
thats more like it , just need to know the bad points when i look at them.
handbags at dawn for you two then.
flat4 bloke i have noticed you are a **** lately
handbags at dawn for you two then.
flat4 bloke i have noticed you are a **** lately
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kiss my ****ing ***..what do u expect when u have guys here saying that mr2's are good for donuts and drifting!!!!!??? ****ing joke
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flat-4-ire you are a bit unnecessarily aggresive, not to mention getting your facts wrong. This was a helpful friendly thread before you got on it.
You say:
"no lsd"
LSD was standard in turbos from 1992 on. Please see http://www.btinternet.com/~netsurf/mr2t/mr2tfaq.html
You say:
"220bhp or so(and the n/a version is 165bhp)"
Half right. turbo is 220ps or 245ps, NA is 165ps(158BHP), or 177ps, or the very late ones were slightly reduced at around 170ps.
You say:
"and i dont know what classics ur referring to cos they sure as hell wouldnt take an sti"
Maybe not an STi but they do take classics, even jap 275ps classics.
please see vid named "mr2_gt_vs_impreza_wrx" halfway down this page (right click and download). It is quite a slow quarter mile time but also see vid called rev2_v_rev3 which shows a rev 3 standard MR2 doing a 13.362 quarter which is quite respectable.
http://www.mr2oc.net/videos/
You say:
"they have exceptional handling!?! where or who has ever stated this?"
Many people have stated this, they are tricky in the wet but if you know how to drive them they are very good in the dry.
Please see this:
http://www.google.com/search?q=MR2+H...&start=10&sa=N
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You say:
"and i would actually pay you to let me see you doing donuts in your mr2"
and then when you see it you say:
"obviously any car can be setup with enough money to do that ya know"
Just can't admit to it can you.
Enough said
You say:
"no lsd"
LSD was standard in turbos from 1992 on. Please see http://www.btinternet.com/~netsurf/mr2t/mr2tfaq.html
You say:
"220bhp or so(and the n/a version is 165bhp)"
Half right. turbo is 220ps or 245ps, NA is 165ps(158BHP), or 177ps, or the very late ones were slightly reduced at around 170ps.
You say:
"and i dont know what classics ur referring to cos they sure as hell wouldnt take an sti"
Maybe not an STi but they do take classics, even jap 275ps classics.
please see vid named "mr2_gt_vs_impreza_wrx" halfway down this page (right click and download). It is quite a slow quarter mile time but also see vid called rev2_v_rev3 which shows a rev 3 standard MR2 doing a 13.362 quarter which is quite respectable.
http://www.mr2oc.net/videos/
You say:
"they have exceptional handling!?! where or who has ever stated this?"
Many people have stated this, they are tricky in the wet but if you know how to drive them they are very good in the dry.
Please see this:
http://www.google.com/search?q=MR2+H...&start=10&sa=N
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You say:
"and i would actually pay you to let me see you doing donuts in your mr2"
and then when you see it you say:
"obviously any car can be setup with enough money to do that ya know"
Just can't admit to it can you.
Enough said