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Old 18 October 2005, 12:32 PM
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Exclamation Evo6 faster than Evo9 !!

Anybody else see fifth gear(cr5p I know)?
The std Evo6 beat the std Evo9 around a track!!
Old 18 October 2005, 12:39 PM
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same with classic bug eye imprezas
Old 18 October 2005, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Deep Singh
Anybody else see fifth gear(cr5p I know)?
The std Evo6 beat the std Evo9 around a track!!
But was the 6 standard? It looked like the exhaust had been changed at least.
Old 18 October 2005, 01:12 PM
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wonder how many times they re-did the test to give them the result they wanted... still, the 6 looks a lot better, the 8 & 9 look dreadful imo... especially the 8!
Old 18 October 2005, 01:28 PM
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Is the 9 is a lot heavier car than the 6?
Old 18 October 2005, 02:18 PM
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It was also a standard 320 and not the 340 version which has the Ecutek re flashed ecu which is about 350 ish bhp and would have had the legs on the 6.Evolution is what it's all about.
Old 18 October 2005, 02:40 PM
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i watched it, very entertaining!lol the six did look better imo but as said, how many times did they record it?!?

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Old 18 October 2005, 03:45 PM
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Both cars looked like alot of fun to drive I wouldn't say no
Old 18 October 2005, 03:49 PM
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Looked like the E6 was running an angled exit exhaust, possibly a Nur Spec.... If its a Jap Import, then it may have had a few things modified before coming over, I very much doubt that 5th Gear were aware of the changes either.


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Old 18 October 2005, 03:55 PM
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Vicky should have known, she used to work for Max Power
Old 18 October 2005, 03:58 PM
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True but would she have said anything if she knew.... or rather, would the people behind the scene's have considered it a big enough problem to source another clean E6 for recording.


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Old 18 October 2005, 04:26 PM
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I know exactly what you mean. I think it's down to the fact that it's a crap program and they tried to make it interesting to idiots who don't know any better.
Old 18 October 2005, 04:31 PM
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Well they said it was an official UK car, and as they are giving it away in the competition I doubt they would be lying.
Old 18 October 2005, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by paulpalmer
I know exactly what you mean. I think it's down to the fact that it's a crap program and they tried to make it interesting to idiots who don't know any better.

Absolutely spot on, it was an improvement over the previous series, but still nowhere near the quality of Top Gear..... IMO.

dtriggs, I thought they said it was a Japanese Imported car.... and that it was being returned to an Import Company for a full check before being given to the winner of the competition??


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Old 18 October 2005, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by dtriggs
Well they said it was an official UK car, and as they are giving it away in the competition I doubt they would be lying.
In the competition they said that it was an import.
Old 18 October 2005, 04:46 PM
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Here's the car. That exhaust doesn't look standard to me. Still looks nice though

Old 18 October 2005, 04:47 PM
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its being sent to extreme for a check over, evo sources there say it has a nur spec and thats it. so pretty standard really, the IX was a 320 and the later models do weigh more
Old 18 October 2005, 04:52 PM
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Well they have given it to xtreme to check it out and apparently it has had an exhaust tinker.. we will know more come the weekend...

Think of it this way... I have driven the 320 evo 9 + i own one now to.. The one i drove felt very held back.. Mine also feels slightly guttless atm + there is alot of potential there otherwise i wouldnt have bought it... The handling is very very good and its leeps and bounds of my previous 7 FQ300.. the lack of power feel is IMO down to the CAT and air filter on the 9.. Once these are changed everything should light up + with the added top end mivic .. If the 6 had a straight through exhaust and filter then both cars are running similar power.. Dont forget that the Evo 9 is only running 1.2 bar (apparently) whereas the 7's and 8's are running closer to 1.4-1.5bar..
Old 18 October 2005, 06:03 PM
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I dont think they needed to edit/ redo the race to get the result they wanted.

The "ghost" lap showed she didnt bother to drive on the same piece of tarmac with both cars. (Probably because shes not the driver her fans think she is!)
Old 18 October 2005, 06:15 PM
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What was the difference anyway? Marginal, IIRC. I bet if she'd done another lap in either car the times would have been different. I think they (Mitsubishi) would need to evolve the laws of physics to make the cars much faster, given the 6 as a starting block, and having emissions, safety etc as restricting factors.

If the 6 had been miles faster, then sure, it might have ruffled a few feathers. As it is, I can't see what the fuss is about.

And as for their race against an F1 car... Tiff's obviously not viewed any of Clarkson's tapes, or he'd have seen the race with the Cougar, Focus WRC and F1 at Silverstone. First time my ar$e.
Old 18 October 2005, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Duck_Pond
And as for their race against an F1 car... Tiff's obviously not viewed any of Clarkson's tapes, or he'd have seen the race with the Cougar, Focus WRC and F1 at Silverstone. First time my ar$e.
I thought that too but it's a little known fact that Ayrton Senna did it before Clarkson and Clarkson copied it. Senna was in a McLaren I think it was McNish in a 911 and someone else in a road saloon but I can't remember what. They all started off around a spanish circuit at certain times and crossed the line pretty much together. Sounds familiar doesn't it My brother has it on video from the early 90's so I'd have to watch it again to remember exact details
Old 18 October 2005, 08:42 PM
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McLaren have also done a F1 car vs. road car contest at Silverstone (was shown as part of the ITV F1 show iirc) starting off with an A class, then AMG Merc to finally DC in the F1 car.
Old 18 October 2005, 08:45 PM
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Senna's one was a Maclaren Honda and a Honda NSX
Old 18 October 2005, 08:51 PM
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anyway, it wasn't much of a race!

i thought the EVo FQ400 vs Lambo on Top Gear repeats was more interesting (at least you could see both cars on the same screen)
Old 18 October 2005, 09:23 PM
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deffo not a standard exhaust ,
looks like as someone said a early nur spec , what some people forget also is that some of the uk 9's are only 260 bhp ,with the VI's if you sort out the exhaust ,de-cat ,filter and uprate the fuel pump the fuel cut is at 1.32 bar the evo VI running 1.3 bar just under with a good set up can run as much as 370 bhp, with a rally art ecu and a good map even more ,
they are just so tunable ,standard boost for the VI is a bar 14 psi, and most make more than manufactures figures anyway ,
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Old 18 October 2005, 09:33 PM
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I'm a little confused. Even if it had an aftermarket exhaust thats hardly going to add 50 BHP is it? In which case we haven't got very far over 7 years have we?

If we believe it was all a set up thats a different matter. I'm not quite sure why they would set up such a result though
Old 18 October 2005, 09:44 PM
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if the ecu was changed and the fuel pump uprated ( in tank ) , air box aftermarket filter say k&n and the boost turned up no one would know as these arn't obvious things, the ecu is behind the passenger air bag and the fuel pump is in the tank ,and the contents of the airbox is hidden so yes you could potentially look to just have an exhaust and get 50 bhp or even as much as 100 bhp , and as its possably an import most have aftermarket boost controllers / fuel cut defenders as well ,
its no way as obvious if you want to hide modifications
and it would be real quick too
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Old 18 October 2005, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by DonnieDarko
anyway, it wasn't much of a race!

i thought the EVo FQ400 vs Lambo on Top Gear repeats was more interesting (at least you could see both cars on the same screen)
yeah i was impressed, id still have the lambo tho if i had the money!ha, i love the evo 5, and love the front of evo 6, great cars
Old 19 October 2005, 01:21 AM
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Were there any close up shots of someone in the Evo 6? I didn't think so... It was obviously a remote controlled car, on a scaled circuit... It was a fix I tell yee, a fix....!!


Old 19 October 2005, 01:25 AM
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She was hardly pushing either car properly.

How the hell can you push a car to the limit and still pout and talk sh1te? I drive my 20yr old merc harder than she was pushing either of those cars.


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