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Old 23 June 2005, 11:22 PM
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Some of the advertised 996 Turbos have higher power ratings yet advertise warranties.

Is there anything beyond the X50 pack that would be warrantied by Porsche?

Can anyone advise service intervals and costs please? Price of extending the warranty?
Old 24 June 2005, 08:06 AM
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I have factory upgraded 993TT and do not believe that Porsche will warranty any further non OEM upgrade (and they do not go beyond the X50 range themselves).
May be worth posting on rennlist.com,stuttgart9.co.uk or pistonheads for absolute certainty.
Obviously the TT is not very highly boosted and many companies such as AMD, DMS and Neinmeister amongst others in the UK will easily upgrade the power and torque to 500+ bhp without overdoing things.
I will get mine remapped etc at Ninemeister later this year to circa 475 bhp (as the car is my daily transport)
Old 24 June 2005, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by john banks
Some of the advertised 996 Turbos have higher power ratings yet advertise warranties.

Is there anything beyond the X50 pack that would be warrantied by Porsche?

Can anyone advise service intervals and costs please? Price of extending the warranty?
find the right dealer and you can get warrantied higher powered cas also the warranties are about £700-750 per year IIRC.


I really really must make ans excuse to drive up to sunny scotland sometime



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Old 24 June 2005, 09:48 AM
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Some of the guys who have RUF modified cars insist Porsche UK are A-ok with the modifications. I don't know for sure. Hawkscoobyslayer and Guy or Henry on stuttgart9.co.uk will have an opinion for sure, but I'd say best course of action is to call an OPC, tell them you are looking to buy the car and want to buy a PPI and extended warranty through the OPC. They should very quickly let you know if the modifications are acceptable, ie they won't quote the PPI and warranty over the phone if they can't supply it....make that very clear.
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Old 24 June 2005, 12:56 PM
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That would be very nice Paul

Thanks all for the input.
Old 24 June 2005, 06:20 PM
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Determind to get rid of the rice rocket John? (LOL)

On the question of warranties. If one buys a car whose warranty has elapsed ie 2001 car can you actually 'reinstitute' it
Old 25 June 2005, 12:07 PM
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I know companies like AMD etc can remap a 996 turbo with the X50 power kit from 450bhp-550bhp for a couple of grand.

What worries me though is that a bloke at work had his 996 turbo uprated to 550bhp - but had it done in Stuggart - for £ 35,000!

Basically had a new engine. Surely re-mapping stresses engine parts that werent designed to cope with these amounts of power.

I may be wrong - but if porsche will supply a warranty on a re-map then sounds like the performance bargain of the century.
Old 25 June 2005, 05:55 PM
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From what I've gathered from trawling Porker sites is that the tt engine is very strong. Its very different to the na 996 and is based on the racing GT1 engine
Old 25 June 2005, 06:15 PM
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how much do they go for?
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in the region of 60k
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Try a modified GT2.

Lighter, less driven wheels and more powerful.
Old 26 June 2005, 11:16 AM
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I think most turbo engines should have an easy and low lag time delivering 160-170 BHP/litre, even the weakest turbo Subaru engines can do that.

How comfortable and refined is a GT2 compared with a normal turbo? I can't find if there is traction control or not?
Old 26 June 2005, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by john banks
I think most turbo engines should have an easy and low lag time delivering 160-170 BHP/litre, even the weakest turbo Subaru engines can do that.

How comfortable and refined is a GT2 compared with a normal turbo? I can't find if there is traction control or not?
Not refined - no traction control.

Think GT3 with more power.

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Old 26 June 2005, 11:41 AM
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John

Contact Bob R. who will be able to give you an informed view
Old 26 June 2005, 12:33 PM
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http://www.seriouswheels.com/top-200...2-Turbo-05.htm

thats just naughty
Old 26 June 2005, 06:43 PM
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Why should Bob R know? Does he tune Porkers now?

John, the GT2 also has no rear seats, roll cage instead!! No traction/PSM and rwd as stated. Looks the mutts though, far more agressive then the turb0

The ceramic brakes cost circa £15k for all corners to replace!!!!!!!!

www.stuttgart9.co.uk is a good place to ask more, there are some owners there inc a guy with a 500+ BHP Ruf GT2!!!
Old 26 June 2005, 10:48 PM
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Doesn't Bob have a GT3? Nice car
Old 26 June 2005, 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by john banks
Doesn't Bob have a GT3? Nice car
Oh I see. Never knew that!
Old 26 June 2005, 11:15 PM
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Heard he'd got something like that, maybe wrong. Excellent taste if so, would love to hear his opinions on comparisons with rice rockets though. It seems the GT3 performs very well for its power and weight and sets stunning lap times.
Old 27 June 2005, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Deep Singh
Why should Bob R know? Does he tune Porkers now?

John, the GT2 also has no rear seats, roll cage instead!! No traction/PSM and rwd as stated. Looks the mutts though, far more agressive then the turb0

The ceramic brakes cost circa £15k for all corners to replace!!!!!!!!

www.stuttgart9.co.uk is a good place to ask more, there are some owners there inc a guy with a 500+ BHP Ruf GT2!!!
I think Guy has taken the car back to Ruf since the initial conversion - and it now pumps out >600 BHP !!

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Old 27 June 2005, 12:00 PM
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According to several sources, the standard 996 Carrera engine can handle 400bhp on its original internals with no problems & a 996 TT can handle up to around 550bhp with no internal mods needed.
They are very over-engineered cars indeed.
Porsche fit bigger turbo's to their X50 (450bhp) cars more as a precaution than anything else, though this creates a little more lag than on standard turbo's. The plus side, bigger turbo's mean you can then modify them to over what you can on standard turbo's.
If modifying a 996 TT much over 500bhp I would consider replacing a gear linkage clip that seems to be something that can snap with the extra power, Porsche fits a cheap plastic one as standard, which I have heard snap on standard 420bhp cars, you can have it replaced with a metal one very cheaply.

I heard a stat the other day that said that now 50% of all UK GT2's had either been written off or badly damaged. Porsche test drivers have written off several.....its an animal of a car to drive fast & safely. A tuned Turbo offers similar performance with added security of 4WD, PSM etc.
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Looks like DMS will take X50 cars to 550 with exhaust, 520 without, and apparently 25 less on standard turbos. So the quiet and low lag option is about 495 with just the remap from the looks of it.

Interesting on the GT2, I wouldn't like to catch the tail on that and probably wouldn't be able to.
Old 27 June 2005, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by john banks
Looks like DMS will take X50 cars to 550 with exhaust, 520 without, and apparently 25 less on standard turbos. So the quiet and low lag option is about 495 with just the remap from the looks of it.

Interesting on the GT2, I wouldn't like to catch the tail on that and probably wouldn't be able to.
Mmmmm- think I could just about live with 495 BHP

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Old 27 June 2005, 11:03 PM
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John, check out www.impulsemotorco.co.uk. A 508 BHP Techart converted 996tt
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Originally Posted by RoShamBo
I heard a stat the other day that said that now 50% of all UK GT2's had either been written off or badly damaged. Porsche test drivers have written off several.....its an animal of a car to drive fast & safely. A tuned Turbo offers similar performance with added security of 4WD, PSM etc.
Sorry but I don't buy that stat - in the UK that would make the car totally uninsurable and from the insurance figures some of the guys are paying on Stuttgart's the premiums are not outragous and simply don't reflect that story...

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Originally Posted by Gastro
Sorry but I don't buy that stat - in the UK that would make the car totally uninsurable and from the insurance figures some of the guys are paying on Stuttgart's the premiums are not outragous and simply don't reflect that story...

Gastro
you never know it could be true??

how many were sold in the uk 200 300? or less

if there were 200 then 100 could have been bumped? ive certainly seen/heard of 30 + on the net alone


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Old 28 June 2005, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Gastro
Sorry but I don't buy that stat
sadly true

as for tuning 996tt AmD are imho the best garage in the country. i understand power upgrades on these are dead easy. give andy fearns a bell (he sold me both my s4 and wrx-ra)
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Originally Posted by Deep Singh
John, check out www.impulsemotorco.co.uk. A 508 BHP Techart converted 996tt
how do you know it is 508bhp ?
Old 28 June 2005, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ChristianR
how do you know it is 508bhp ?
Christian obviously I've not measured it on my own engine dyno.

There seem to be a few 'respected' Pork tuners out there and Techart is one of them. As long as they confirmed it to be one of their conversions then I would presume its not far off 500 BHP. They can be contacted to confirm the conversion
Getting a modern STi from 280 to 330 BHP I'm sure you agree is easy. Its the same percentage increase, so no big deal really
Old 28 June 2005, 10:20 PM
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John,

You're getting paid too much mate!

GT3-RS N/A power and response. They looked great at Rockingham on saturday, and when I saw how fast they were going, it was frightening to consider I was keeping up.

If I had the money I would buy one they are gorgeous.

Paul


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