prodriva

http://67.19.177.10/newphotos/other/other937.jpg

The way they should all end up IMO

Jap2Scrap

**** You

GrollySTI

WreckedExotics......?????????........whats it doing on there??????

Andy M3

I think Saxo's are good cheap cars - certainly in the VTR 100hp guise you can show a 2.5 boxter a thing or two around the 'twisties'. The chasis are spot on and in capeable hands can travel point to point very quickly !!!

Jap2Scrap

The 125bhp VTS is even better

I've taught some very exotic machinery a few lessons along the A43 around all the roundabouts and that near Silverstone.

prodriva

Yes, I agree with all the comments above. BUT, theres far too many that are owned by cap wearing, hand welded to the top of the steering wheel at the 12o'clock position, greasy, spotty urchins who shouldnt be in charge of anything more powerful than a tin opener let alone a VTR/VTS. They cover them in ****e body kits, huge wheels, mahoosive quad exit exhaust system and 'bangin' tunes lmao all of which destroy the cars original traights that make them what they were meant to be. Sorry, but I just dont like the image they have.

STEVECHAPS

Looking at the pic, the damage suggests a 5mph supermarket car park coming together with a shopping trolley. Hope no one was hurt.

StickyMicky

must have smashed the paxo into a proper car??

RB5 Paul

Thats the latest bodykit isnt it?

Be on the front cover of lax power next month

Gutmann pug

and you say that because you drive a subaru, which is rapidly going the same way IMHO.........


Gary

Patt@firstime

SupaMiniCupa

I would have no qualms considering a VTS with engine/suspension mods and a standard exterior.

prodriva

Tut, tut. Assumptions assumptions. Just to confirm that I dont own a Subaru. Buying a new house took priority so it's the blue oval for me

Please note the little winking smillie face at the end of my original post. It's their to add humour to the post meaning I wasn't being serious. I'll forgive you all for being so serious as it is Monday after all

Moray

lmfao

R 14NS R

i had a vtr, the week after they were released abouteight years ago, no other ones about at all at the time which was nice, however, every other boy racer on the seafront has one nowadays.

as much as they are seen as 'chav' cars now, IMO they are still good looking cars and go like a go kart, it also had FREE insurance for two years.

J4CKO

iTrader: (1)

It amazed me how many are in salvage yards looking like that.

Jap2Scrap

Wanna buy one? Lowered (sensibly - i.e. you can still see the top of the tyre walls), small cosmetic touches (delocked, subtle tints, rear diffuser and small front splitter), Running on 16" OZ's 205/45 16's, Morettes), Jetex pipe and shielded mesh filter, Full respray in blue in January (got keyed so insurance job), new clutch & cambelt last december, standard interior, 55k miles, 1999 V reg.

£4000 ono to someone off here..

I'd keep it to be honest but it's too skateboardy for a 500 mile motorway round trip every weekend.

FletchCSL

Nothing wrong with the saxo's as long as they are kept standard, although i do prefer the 106 rallye/xsi/GTi/quicksilver. Dont have the same image problems IMHO, better looking and rarer

Andy M3

Holy poo.

I sold my 52 reg VTR [standard] with half those miles 8 months ago for that money !?!?!

However, i think i had problems selling it because it was standard - perhaps i should have considered the above mods and chucked £1500 on the asking price !?!?

Jap2Scrap

I sort of agree that generally 106's are rarer than Saxos but to be fair VTS's aren't that common.. I've had mine a year and I've seen maybe half a dozen others while I've been driving. When you consider I do in the region of 700 miles a week that's not very many. On the other hand VTR's are everywhere and the smaller 1.1i, desire and east/westcoast models seem to be every other car in town.

I think the VTS gets lumped in with the VTR for the purposes of slagging off

ianc

<opens can of worms>

The original VTR was more fun than the original VTS.....

</closes can of worms>

Jap2Scrap

Fun?

Need more definition than that..

Both are built on the same suspension platform, with the same wheels and tyres.

One has 90odd bhp, one has 120odd bhp.
One did 0-60 in 9+ secs, One in 7+ secs.

Unless you're one of those who says 8v is better than 16v (I find this is normally the one who couldn't afford all 16 ) I'm not sure how the VTR is more fun...

Just wondering.

SupaMiniCupa

Ha ha nice try! Thanks for the offer but I'm not in the market at the moment!

Good luck with the sale though, hope you find a discerning buyer...

ianc

I was running two cars at the time (98) and struggled to find anything to replace either.

One was a ZX volcane, 1.9i, 8v... drove the 16v ZX and it just felt lifeless, on an open road it was undoubtedly quicker but on a country lane with very short straights, it felt like it was just hitting the power band as you reached the next corner.

The sax VTS was the same, a quicker car on "bigger" roads but the roads I enjoyed it felt dead compared to the vtr.

I sold the saxo after a year, was a fun toy but a bit fragile... I clung to the ZX, all the 8v stuff disappeared, and I jumped to 20v and a turbo.

It's personal opinion, but for those lanes I enjoy most, 16v engines just annoy the hell out of me.

matt85

VTR's are victims of their own success.

Being cheap to buy and insure and relatively quick means young people can afford to insure->run->modify->crash them. Which is precisely why they get stacked so often.

Go onto the website know and ill bet you see about 3 threads saying 'Just wrote my VTR off'

VTR's are good cars if you exclude the reputations they now have.

VTS's are a totally different kettle of fish. Rare and much more expensive to insure, prevents the majority of the young and stupid from getting their hands on them.

Brendan Hughes

Tip - don't look in Members Gallery...

Andy M3

This is where i feel the problem starts. Because you ideally need to be in your 20's before you get a VTS - most people by which time have moved on to the next level. Some would choose the 172 / Civic Type R or others go down the BMW / Lexus route. Either way, based on the reputation they have a lot of young chaps are put off.

So you just end up looking like an old man in a boy racer car - lol.

Not taking anything away from the car, but the reputation is pretty poor, irrelavent of which badge it has.

ben j

i chose a vts .. slightly modded tho-