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Old 14 May 2005, 11:21 AM
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Default Pug 205 gti 1.6 or 1.9?

Thinking of buying one as a cheap fun runaround.

Used to own both 1.6 & 1.9 in my teens but cant remember the diferences between them. How do they compare.

Ive seen a couple of nice 1.6 cars so considering these.
Old 14 May 2005, 11:28 AM
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Having owned both I would say get a 1.9. Only 15odd bhp more, but feels like much more - has more torque and more low-down pull. Far better to drive (IMO) - feels like a bigger capacity engine than it is, foot down in any gear and pushed right back into the seat!

The 1.6 is a more free-reving engine, and if you enjoy thrashing through the rev's it might be more your thing.

The only reason I bought a 1.6 was because I couldnt find any decent 1.9's and kept seeing lots of nice looking 1.6's around, so bought one - but it was a mistake!

Wont be easy finding a good one however, and theyre starting to fetch good money now.
Old 14 May 2005, 12:00 PM
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1.6's only have drums on the back, whereas the 1.9's have discs..

Do a search mate, seems 90% of SN have or have had a 205.
Old 14 May 2005, 12:16 PM
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1.9 all the way

Some people say 1.6's but only becasue they've bought them and are trying to make themselves feel better
Old 14 May 2005, 12:18 PM
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1.9 all the way.
Old 14 May 2005, 12:42 PM
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1.9 for sure. Mucho fun car.
Old 14 May 2005, 01:05 PM
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The 1.6 is more free revving and the slightly better set up suspension car, buts thats only because it makes it easier to drive.
The 1.9 is the way forward though, its the daddy Rear disc's, leccy windows etc, nicer wheels (best ever alloys on any car actually ), leather seats, more torquier engine etc. Just watch for LOO
Old 14 May 2005, 01:10 PM
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I bought the 1.9. No regrets. Took a while to find a good one.
Old 14 May 2005, 01:12 PM
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not much difference mate, i've got a 205 as a road rally car, started life as a 1.6 but after a few events i changed it to a 1.9, on the road the car isn't much faster and doesn't rev half as well as a 1.6 and i actually kept the 1.6 box which should make the car quicker but its not that much better.

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Old 14 May 2005, 11:27 PM
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I have a 1.9 track car. Fitting the 1.6 box to mine made a noticeable difference in the acceleration. Seems to pick up quicker

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there's a problem with the 1.9 which is toffee crank bearings (or at least 1.6 ones). the 1.6 isn't any slower up to 90odd cos of shorter gears... its a bitch on the motorway tho
Old 15 May 2005, 08:12 AM
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I would get a 1.9

Went in one recently and after the rose tinting of my youth (1994 I had mine) it seemed slow compared to what I remember. Seemed like a missile then. My mates just done it, and I've had a few goes for old times sake.

Best thing is that lift off oversteer (in my youth) used to be something to be wary of. Now it's something to be exploited. Still mega fun if not that quick anymore. Good balance still between performance and handling, great feeling to get it squirming through bends. The magic is still there if you buy (or build) a good one.

Parts for peanuts on ebay. Also I didn't remember it being so plasticky inside when I had one, but hey....
Old 15 May 2005, 03:05 PM
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Definitely get a 1.9 But don't get a miami blue one, everyone will think you're gay
Old 15 May 2005, 04:05 PM
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cheers guys
Would prefer a 1.9 but there ever too much money for a good one or cheaper ones are bangers. Looking to spend about a grand as at the end of day its gonna be a fun 2nd car/runabout.

Anyone used these guys. http://www.justgtis.com/

Nice examples but pricey. Remember selling mine 6 years ago for £1500.
Old 15 May 2005, 04:37 PM
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i know someone whos selling a 1.9 for £1000.hes based in colchester.pm me if your interested.
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I have just bought a 1.6 and it is being fitted with a 1.9 engine.

Whatever you go for you will enjoy.

Just GTis have a reputation for being "expensive" - check out www.205gtidrivers.com - some good cars for sale there.

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Old 15 May 2005, 10:38 PM
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if you want a cheap 1.9 just buy a 1.6 and drop a 1.9 in it, i done this with my rally car and it works out loads cheaper than buying a genuine 1.9 but you get the same package, you can easily pick up a 1.9 engine for £80 or less, i've bought 3 recently and their all good engines.
Old 15 May 2005, 11:17 PM
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Theres lots of nice 1.9's around for that money mate - just keep looking
Old 15 May 2005, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by CrisPDuk
Definitely get a 1.9 But don't get a miami blue one, everyone will think you're gay
Cheeky ******

Got the interior put back in mine this weekend, dying to drive it again now!!
Old 17 May 2005, 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Weaver
Cheeky ******

Got the interior put back in mine this weekend, dying to drive it again now!!
Touchy, touchy, sweetie. The interior's no use if the engine bay's still empty though is it
Old 18 May 2005, 07:47 AM
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Got the engine as well, but with Scooby Shootout this Sunday, and French Car Show next Sunday i'm strapped for time.
Old 18 May 2005, 08:49 AM
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One is quicker with better brakes.

One is slower with worse brakes.

Errr.....
Old 18 May 2005, 09:33 AM
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Depends on the driver
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Originally Posted by Dream Weaver
Depends on the driver
Could say that about anything though eh...

The same driver in both cars - be quicker in the 1.9.
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Not necessarily. The 1.6 was always supposed to have the more balanced chassis and was easier to hussle along the back roads due to a better spread of torque/power delivery.

1.9 is the daddy tbh, and when i had my first 1.6 I always felt like it was second best when sat next to a 1.9, but there isnt that much real world difference between the 2.
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Originally Posted by Dream Weaver
Not necessarily. The 1.6 was always supposed to have the more balanced chassis and was easier to hussle along the back roads due to a better spread of torque/power delivery.

1.9 is the daddy tbh, and when i had my first 1.6 I always felt like it was second best when sat next to a 1.9, but there isnt that much real world difference between the 2.
Yep, I'd go along with that.
Old 18 May 2005, 11:09 AM
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Now what you really want is an Mi16 touching 200bhp (when its built), that leaves both of them in the weeds

Cue Gutmann/Jawa
Old 18 May 2005, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Dream Weaver
Now what you really want is an Mi16 touching 200bhp (when its built), that leaves both of them in the weeds

Cue Gutmann/Jawa
Or just get a nice shiny R plate 306 GTi-6
Old 18 May 2005, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Dream Weaver
Now what you really want is an Mi16 touching 200bhp (when its built), that leaves both of them in the weeds

Cue Gutmann/Jawa

cough ........
Old 18 May 2005, 12:01 PM
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LOL

Getting there slowly again





Shootout, then FCS next 2 Sundays has buggered my time up. Taking the 405 out on track at FCS, should be fun.


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