Franx

I was having a look around on my day off, with a view to upgrading my car, and went to see a J reg Civic VTi, which the garage concerned, said was an import - it was an auto, and they didn't do an auto vti over here I don't think.

Thing was, he was quite certain that the insurance group was only a 9 or thereabouts though, which wouldn't fit with it being a VTi as such, as the UK VTi model is group 15 or so.

What I'm wondering, is whether it would be the same as the UK one underneath, or could it actually be the slower ESi one badged as a VTi from Japan?....if that makes sense

He mentioned something about there being a variation in the number of cams also between the models, which I didn't quite catch.

Any ideas?

Ta!
C.

Richard_P

The vti is double over headcam (dohc) and I think the esi is a single (sohc). Certainly my 1.8 was a dohc, I assume the 1.6 is the same.

I suppose it could be anything badged as anything, the badges don't neccesarily mean the same between countries. I don't think there is any performance difference worth mentioning between a uk and a jap as the uk engines are pretty highly tuned anyway. So unless there is a big saving over a uk one I would go for that as the jap will be harder to insure and probably more difficult to resell.

Rich

GC8

In Japan; a VTi is a single overhead cam engine; usually 1500; the B16a engined cars are marketed as Si-R's (130PS Vs 174PS)

It is a mistake to try to align JDM models with UK models; UK model names are decided upon by the UK importers and they seldom correlate with the home market.

Simon

Franx

Thanks for that

PS? How does that equate to BHP?

So a single overhead cam engine then. Is that what the UK ESi model is, or is it just a different thing altogether?

B16a engine being the fast one, I'm assuming?

GC8

Its virtually the same; my 220PS Impreza gives approximately 218Bhp

clarence

The UK ESi has 1.6 litre engine, the JDM VTi has 1.5 litre engine. Both have SOHC VTEC & both have similar power outputs.
In that period, nearly all JDM cars that had DOHC VTEC (e.g. Prelude, Civic, Civic Ferio, Integra, Accord) are called SiR. Honda used LSi, ESi, & VTi on Euro spec cars only.
Btw, the JDM SiR was offered in auto as well, but the power output is only 155ps.