Stephen Pope

A guy in my works says his new Civic Type R will have better fuel consumption than my MY98UK turbo. What is the score?

talizman

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http://www.civictype-r.co.uk/phpbb2/index.php

Wish

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Civic Type R = Over rated shopper...... I was very disapointed when i drove the car.

JDM

Tell him that fuel economy is for wusses, if he wanted that he'd have been better off with a diesel lupo.

Then kick his *** somewhere safe.

Diablo

He'd be right - thats the score

Robert Rosario

He would be right, but does it really matter?

Claudius

He's right, a CTR uses less fuel.


Main reasons:
- FWD
- less torque, no turbo, etc.
- more modern engine management and EU emissions regulations to meet
- best normally aspirated engine in every way, low weight, compact, etc.

talizman

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I own a Scoob and a CTR, and if the CTR is driven mainly in the V-TEC zone, then the fuel consumption is totally comparable to the Scoob.

Don't forget, there are some members of this forum who have had close to 400 miles from a tank in a Scoob, by driving mainly off boost on long journeys.

A Scoob driven off boost will get better MPG than a CTR driven in "the zone"

DJ Dunk

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He's right, for sure

Ex-CTR owner, now MY03 WRX PPP owner with large right foot

boabster

use to own a ctr....very greedy

because you could not stop listening to the v-tec
all you did was plant the right foot
but dont right them off because in the right hands a very serious threat to a scooby.....

Fangoria

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Tell him what the heck his car is shi*e - I also owned a ctr for 5and a half months - even in the vetec zone you wanted more power. Must'nt grumble though as I bought it abroad and sold it for more than I paid for it........

Fuel consumption - never take any notice of that!!

Jamescsti

Is that his best argument, sounds pretty funny to me really, you don't buy a scooby for fuel consumption!

Abdabz

Yip he's right, any lighter, slower, naturally aspirated, smaller engined car would be....

Bless...

gsm1

He's right but I've never known Subarus to be particularly good on fuel up against other Japanese makes, standard or sports models.

talizman

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Lighter? Civic 1204 kg - practically the same as the classic Impreza (1235kg)
Slower? Civic 150mph - actually quicker top end than UK Impreza and about 1 sec slower to 60mph
Naturally aspirated? Correct
Smaller engine? No, they are both 2 litre

Oh well, 1 out of 4 ain't bad!

B0DSKI

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LOL Talizman, i filled up my CTR this morning and worked out the MPG as 34 aint too bad but like Tali says if u drive it in the VTec zone then it's been known to work out less than 20 Mpg it's all relative to how u drive the car, exactly the same as a 98Uk Turbo would be.
Oh and Fangoria if a CTR is so Shi*e then what other FWD car can do 150mph 0-60 in 6.5 secs and be bought for £16k from a UK dealer and run on bugger all cash???

richs2891

Good reply !!
And what did I replace my destroyed MY02 WRX with - a CTR !

Richard

Dark Blue Mark

An ITR from Litchfield

Its faster.

MB

B0DSKI

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Mark the ITR's at Litchfield are 52 Plates not new and they are £17K on the road so \/ LOL

what would scooby do

Just a bit of backgound on the whole VTEC thing, Hondas goal was to create an engine that was both powerful and economical.. hence the VTEC system.. moosing around town and crusing you get good economy, when the VTEC kicks in you get the power and uber consumption.. pretty much like been on/off boost on a turbo car..

don't try to compare and contrast a civic type r and a scoob - different market segments

Dark Blue Mark

They were quoting 12k plus vat Or was that for the race spec one?

I own an ITR btw

MB

Stephen Pope

To be honest, the main reason for me posting this thread was that my mate at work with the Type R asked me to post any thread to get some general feedback to rate it against the 'Type R net' or whatever you call it. His initial opinion was that it was crap and thet the Scoobynet is far superior - shame he has not admitted that the Subarus are also far superior!! He picked his up (new) last week and I also got mine back with a new API engine in it on the same day. Hence we are both running ours in, in preparation for the big race!!!

B0DSKI

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Think that was the Race ones Mark, mind u when i've paid for the CTR in 7 months time £12K+ VAT seems good value for one of them :-) Hmmmmmmmmm or do i go the whole hog and get the P1 i've always wanted?

Dark Blue Mark

Wouldn't touch a P1 with a barge pole

STi Type R is the way forward

MB