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Old 11 July 2004, 09:11 PM
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Question Replacement for the cup

As many of you know the Clio cup was stolen a few weeks ago, and we are now in the process of buying a replacement. If we could get another cup with A/C for £10500 I would buy one today.....there just aren't any!

We have been for a test drive in a 182 with cup packs, and arranged a price of £13300 or £14000 with 0% finance. (racing Blue with cup packs)

Had a test drive in a CTR, but although it has a nice interior, it's ugly and is no way worth £17000.

Should we try a cooper S?

What other cars are in the ball park?

Must have 4 seats, be less than 2 years old, and be suitable for trackdays/Nurburgring, and not cost a fortune to run, and not be an Impreza or an Evo.
Old 11 July 2004, 11:31 PM
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Seat Leon Cupra R or if you dont mind being laughed at when people ask what car you have a, SKODA Octavia RS which ive heard are good. Both have a proper back seats and both are pretty quick.
Old 12 July 2004, 01:10 AM
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If you're looking up at the £17k range, you could get one of the new Honda Integra Type-R's.
It would cost a lot to insure being an import, but running costs in so far as fuel consumption and servicing should be the same as a CTR, as it has the same powerplant.
Looks much better (one of the nicest coupe's around IMO), has an LSD, Recaro's, Brembo's etc, and 220BHP, plus 4 seats and decent practicality.
2002 models start from around £16k, so under 2 years old.
No turbo and Honda build quality means it should be very reliable, and VTEC means not to heavy on petrol unless you ask it to be.

Other than that, the 182 with Cup bits is hard to beat for the money, I loved my 172 Cup, really nippy, handled well, and cost peanuts.
The Seat Cupra R is a good car too, and some Toyota Celicas should be about £16k now too, and althou I wouldnt put them in the same class as the Teg, as a UK car should be less to insure, and pretty sporty in 190 form.

Edit: actually I think the Celica is actually only a 2 seater.
Old 12 July 2004, 08:45 AM
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Turbo Astra's can be had with good discounts ... Not sure its my cup of tea but bloody quick.
Old 12 July 2004, 09:01 AM
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I have thought of all of the above, but they just don't excite me....or the motoring press.

It's not just out right speed thats important, I want a fine handling car out of the box, not one I have to invest in.

I think a 182 it will be, I just can't see anything better.
Old 12 July 2004, 09:18 AM
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As they say the 182 is the best hot hatch ever ...... The only thing which lets it down is the bus like driving position and steering wheel.
Old 12 July 2004, 04:59 PM
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Mini Cooper S - won't be as fast as the cup but it handles very well, good build quality, also won't depriceate in first year as already a big waiting list for the facelift models due out soon and in the long run you won't lose much money on it as there's still a high demand. Bad points - Can't really fit adults in the back unless they're 4ft tall, suspension is quite hard for long journeys and can't really say it has a boot!
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325 compact? quite quick, handle well, ugly, nicely built - people may think you're gay if you drive it though.

Saw someone trying to shift 147GTAs for £17k a short whiloe back - that'd be a great car for the money.

You may laugh, but you could get a 1 year old Mondeo ST220 for about £12k...

Theres not a great deal that can match the renault tbh. Think you should get a black one though.
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Originally Posted by davyboy
As many of you know the Clio cup was stolen a few weeks ago, and we are now in the process of buying a replacement. If we could get another cup with A/C for £10500 I would buy one today.....there just aren't any!

We have been for a test drive in a 182 with cup packs, and arranged a price of £13300 or £14000 with 0% finance. (racing Blue with cup packs)

Had a test drive in a CTR, but although it has a nice interior, it's ugly and is no way worth £17000.

Should we try a cooper S?

What other cars are in the ball park?

Must have 4 seats, be less than 2 years old, and be suitable for trackdays/Nurburgring, and not cost a fortune to run, and not be an Impreza or an Evo.
17K!!?? I bought my Red CTR brand new with Aircon, Mats, and Fog lamps for £15,800 from a Honda Dealer (and this was nearly 2 years ago). Prices have softened a lot recently ..... you should get metallic thrown in as well, now!
Old 12 July 2004, 06:22 PM
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Found a Cup with Climate, so the search may be over!
Old 13 July 2004, 06:25 PM
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Stick with the Cup mate.

I just traded the wifes Cup in for a CTR and its nowhere near as much fun, nor as quick as the wee Clio.

Stick with the frenchie!
Old 14 July 2004, 10:13 AM
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Just picked up my mums new 182 with all the extras except the stripes and satnav, a coiple of weeks ago. Paid £12,600.00 for it. Drove it back 140miles from stoke to cambridge at a leisurely 75mph. I thought th driving position was good, as the seat and steering wheel are both adjustable. I cant understand how the motoring press think its not so good.

Excellent little car, but not allowed to touch it again, as I wont let her drive my Scooby.
Old 14 July 2004, 01:06 PM
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Litchfield had some special CTRs at £12.5k OTR. Freek'in bargain!

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Old 14 July 2004, 01:13 PM
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...are you sure, cant find details on his website?
Old 14 July 2004, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by davyboy
It's not just out right speed thats important, I want a fine handling car out of the box, not one I have to invest in.
You're probably going to laugh at this suggestion, but having read your requirements above, what about a SportKa ?

I know it's a Ka but you should test drive one, they are a hoot. Certainly not fast but great handling. Check out the Evo mag review and Clarkson's in last weeks Sunday Times (maybe online).

You should be able to get a new one for under £10k OTR so cheap as chips
Old 14 July 2004, 03:49 PM
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When I said speed was not that important, it is a little bit important

It would have to be as quick as......at least a bug eye!
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I've heard the SportKa is quite quick..... when dropped out of an aeroplane!
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It would have to be as quick as......at least a bug eye!
You may as well get a Golf diesel then, they're about the same
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Originally Posted by davyboy
I have thought of all of the above, but they just don't excite me....or the motoring press.

It's not just out right speed thats important, I want a fine handling car out of the box, not one I have to invest in.

I think a 182 it will be, I just can't see anything better.
The DC5 ITR is simply the best FWD car ever, awesome at everything unless you want RWD which is a tad more fun
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A 53 plate would cost twice that of a Cup though!
Old 15 July 2004, 03:42 PM
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Just won an ebay auction for a Clio!



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Nice one, you get it for a decent price ?
Old 15 July 2004, 04:11 PM
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Could have been less.....but AC was a must, and there is only a handful of these with AC!
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So how much?
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more than 10k, less than 10.5k.
Old 15 July 2004, 05:11 PM
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That plates ace!!!!!
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Not sure if it isn't a little bit chav..........
Old 15 July 2004, 05:27 PM
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Not sure if it isn't a little bit chav..........
It isn't a "little bit" chav......

Bet someone will pay good money for that - new set of tyres at least for the Porsche I would've thought.
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Haven't you just advertised to everyone that you have the inferior and older model 172 model Oh and your initials aren't C.U.P.

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PS Nice anyway, and I'll need a ride in it sometime.


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