matlow

Anyone know the performance difference between the 172 cup and the new 182??

Was'nt really looking but just found the brand new 182 for £11699 which has my bank account trembling!!

davyboy

I saw them, but having the cup suspension was paramount, and these do not come with it. I don't know if you can get them fitted at a later date?

10bhp more and more weight, in fact I guess the cup still has a better PTW ratio.

I know of a nice cup for 10500 - pre registered but still brand new.

matlow

i know you can get the cup suspension as an option but not sure about retro fitting it. ***** i'll just ring the dealer and find out. (prob charge 4 grand and then my saving disapears )

not so excited about the cup, i like my comforts and toys too much. although i do know a man who's looking at the cup so i'll let him know.

davyboy

Let me know how you get on with the dealer to retro fit.

matlow

just got off the phone to them, he doesnt know but will find out for me, its a £200 option on new. going to pop into the dealers on the way back from work and have a test drive as they have one in, should find out then.

i'll let you know how i get on.

davyboy

Thinking about it, don't tell me!

I pick up my cup on Saturday, and I'd rather not spend any more money!

WRX Wannabe

Davyboy you have PM

WRX Wannabe

Thanks M8

currymonster

Hi I've been toying with the idea of swapping my scoob for a 182 next year purely on running costs. Could you tell me where the deal is above your talking about, maybe email me? I'd be interested about the cup option, seems stupid it's not standard for the sake of £200!

Cheers, Cal

davyboy

Do a search on Autotrader.

Rich D

iTrader: (12)

They are virtually identical...

Cup:

Power - 172bhp(DIN) @ 6250rpm
Torque - 148lb/ft @ 5400rpm
Weight - 1021kg
P>W Ratio = 168bhp/tonne
0-60 - 6.5secs
0-100 - 16.9secs
Speed - 138mph


182:

Power - 182bhp(DIN) @ 6500rpm
Torque - 148lb/ft @ 5250rpm
Weight - 1090kg
P>W Ratio = 167bhp/tonne
0-60 - 6.3secs
0-100 - 17.0secs
Speed - 138mph

(using Autocar figures for both)


The 182 is slightly better in the 0-60 dash due to the wider & grippier Michelin Exalto 2's but at the end of the day it's gonna be down the the driver & conditions and in reality there's b*gger all between them!

Rich D

iTrader: (12)

I've driven a 182 without the Cup suspension and it felt soft compared to my old 172 Cup, and it didn't handle as well.

For £200 you'd be a nutter not to spec it, and no it can't be retro fitted...

matlow

had a test drive in the 182 (had the cup suspention) very impressed, chuckable grippy and rapid. grip was phenomenal. cant compare to the cup or outgoing 172 as i havent driven them.

cheers for digging out the figures RICH D

the website is http:\\motorpoint.co.uk i know a couple of people who've dealt with them in the past and glowing reports from one and all.

from the garage, he could'nt confirm or deny on retro fitting cup options but said he would find out for me.

in case anyones interested he knocked a grand off the asking price there and then without even really talking figures.

also motorpoint are going to see if they can source them with the cup suspention option, wait and see i'll let you know what if anything comes of it.

Rich D

iTrader: (12)

In theory you "could" retro-fit the Cup suspension at a later date if you really wanted, but it would cost you a LOT more than £200 and it's not quite as simple as you may think...

With the Cup suspension you get:

• Firmer shocks
• Higher spring rates
• Lower ride height
• Increased front castor
• Larger front hub bearings
• Wider track (wheels are different offset)
• Firmer sidewalled tyres

Would cost a bomb to get that lot at a later date!

Chins

I bought my UK main dealer 182 for £13,450 inc Metalic, Cup Spoiler and Suspension.

You can get a main dealer down to nearly 13k, but I wanted an ex stock car.

I would be wary of buying a 182 without the cup suspension. They might be less popular than Blair come resale time.

Still enjoying the car, could do with more poke though. Love the toys and the way the headlights come on automatically !!. Plus the door pockets take a bottle of wine with no grief !

Jonathan

currymonster

Chins are the headlights any good? ***** me off that the headlamps on my classic scoob are so pants!

Cal

matlow

right, quick update, no the cup suspension pack isnt retro fittable. now bearing in mind the resale values etc...

£11699 gets a grey import from motorpoint minus the cup suspension spoilers and cat 1 alarm imobiliser

£12795 gets a uk spec car and i can add the suspension and spolers if i want (suspension 200 spoilers 150)

do i pay £1500 quid more for a car with a £200 option that i want and will increase resale. although the uk spec car is still 2 grand cheaper than out of the showroom?

i've lost objectivity so advice appreciated

davyboy

Knowing the you will have to call on the warranty at some point as it's a Renault, I'd take a full UK 3 year warranty. I was told the Motorpoint ones are only 2 years.

UK Spec + Cup pack

matlow

Davyboy, think your right mate. i'd be mad not to go for the uk spec car, from what i can gather i'd be paying more for insurance for an import without the alarm and over a couple of years and the resale that 1500 saving would shrink.
what was sticking in my throat was the feeling that a £200 option was costing me £1500.
added bonus of eusacar being here in the north east and not far from work, so peace of mind an added bonus.

if anyone wants the addy its: http:\\eusacar.com delivery time 1 - 2 weeks, they do however offer silly money for part ex's.......so if anyones after a 52 323 sport.........

misty

I was in Sunwins today! They have a screen price of £15335 for a 182 with cup susp and spoller kit!!! How dear is that??

dave

matlow

pulls out calculator.......tappety tap..........about 2 grand too much!! lol

Rich D

iTrader: (12)

The headlights are good on the Cup, let alone the HID units on the 182, so yes they are good!

currymonster

Jolly good, think I'll have fun with the scoob till next Spring then go see Motorpoint or see what the second hand markets like, rubs his hands together and cackles manically
cal

billythekid

Rich..... I assume its you.

You might not know who I am so I will say 3 words.

Adrians wedding corvette

I got your e-mail the other day about the CTR....

Did not know you came on here

TTYL - you now have my new e-mail address.

BTK
(ps I am known only as BTK here )

Rich D

iTrader: (12)

Hello Si!

Yeah, been on this forum for a long time now, but still (as you know) not got a Scoob!


Actually got the CTR on Friday afternoon, which was earlier than I expected, but I've been on a stag do all weekend and the car stayed at home, so not driven it much yet...

billythekid

Yeah I got your e-mail.

My WRX is going good, just looking for a new back box at the mo.

You got my e-mail address so drop me a message in the week.

TTYL

BTK

Rich D

iTrader: (12)

The CTR has a full system on it and sounds like a f*cking mad machine on VTEC!!!

Scoobs sound superb though, I love the barble they make...

billythekid

You will have to bring it along to Elvington - I am planning to go with the scoob at some point in the summer.

Dream Weaver

Rick, have you sold the Cup now then? Should have told me, I seem to be interested in them at the moment now my Mi16 needs a full rebuild before Elvington.

Sounds like you bought a CTR then, what colour etc?

PS Know anyone that wants to do a full Mi16 rebuild for very good money?

Dream Weaver

You from round our neck of the woods then BTK??? (Barrowford)