Golf/Corrado VR6
25 July 2003, 11:07 AM
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My Financee is expecting our first baby,
So I will have to change my Clio Cup to a bigger car so I can get baby things inside the boot (Clio's boot is very small).
I fancy the above cars because I visit relatives abroad/Scotland alot, so I fancy the VR6 Grunt.
Does anyone know any good websites or have any advice on these models?
Im mostly want to know about build quality, comfort, depriceation economy and power.
Thanks in advance
Scott
So I will have to change my Clio Cup to a bigger car so I can get baby things inside the boot (Clio's boot is very small).
I fancy the above cars because I visit relatives abroad/Scotland alot, so I fancy the VR6 Grunt.
Does anyone know any good websites or have any advice on these models?
Im mostly want to know about build quality, comfort, depriceation economy and power.
Thanks in advance
Scott
25 July 2003, 11:22 AM
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The Corrado is MUCH better than the golf but is probably a little less practical.
I had a Corrado VR6. good build quality, 30mpg comfortably. reliable, solid and strong. Exclusive. Comfy for long journeys, powerful (0-60 in 6.5, 145mph tops, 30-70 5.7 secs). Won't depreciate much as have strong image and also now old(ish). Hatch with split fold rear seats so you can fill it up with stuff, boot is decent size for a coupe.
Get a late one with all the equipment (leather, electric pack etc.) if you can.
What else do you want to know.
I had a Corrado VR6. good build quality, 30mpg comfortably. reliable, solid and strong. Exclusive. Comfy for long journeys, powerful (0-60 in 6.5, 145mph tops, 30-70 5.7 secs). Won't depreciate much as have strong image and also now old(ish). Hatch with split fold rear seats so you can fill it up with stuff, boot is decent size for a coupe.
Get a late one with all the equipment (leather, electric pack etc.) if you can.
What else do you want to know.
25 July 2003, 11:46 AM
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Scott I too had a corrado, loved it too bits, but it did cost me a fortune as the miles reached 100K, new valve stem seals and guides, new head gasket, new discs, bushes etc etc etc and it was starting to rust in areas.
Not trying to put you off, but I know lots of people who were stung hard with pretty big bills. I estimate I spent about 5K in 3 years on wear and tear componants.
Still loved it though, great to drive.
Not trying to put you off, but I know lots of people who were stung hard with pretty big bills. I estimate I spent about 5K in 3 years on wear and tear componants.
Still loved it though, great to drive.
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25 July 2003, 12:34 PM
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just get it checked out to get a good un. Or get a a warranty if you're worried.
many parts are actually from mk2 golfs and mid 90's passats. Those bits are cheapish. The corrado specific bits are more pricey (e.g. body panels etc.). Compared to a Golf VR6, there's not gonna be much in it costwise although many Corrado's have 'prouder' owners who take care of their cars more than the Golf owners.
Mechanically they're quite solid, well more so than other coupe's of that era (calibra, probe, fiat coupe etc.)
Labour charges depend on where you go and will be the same for the golf (i.e. VW labour charges) which are cheaper at main dealers for cars over 5 years old. I used a VW specialist at £30 something an hour who knew their stuff.
many parts are actually from mk2 golfs and mid 90's passats. Those bits are cheapish. The corrado specific bits are more pricey (e.g. body panels etc.). Compared to a Golf VR6, there's not gonna be much in it costwise although many Corrado's have 'prouder' owners who take care of their cars more than the Golf owners.
Mechanically they're quite solid, well more so than other coupe's of that era (calibra, probe, fiat coupe etc.)
Labour charges depend on where you go and will be the same for the golf (i.e. VW labour charges) which are cheaper at main dealers for cars over 5 years old. I used a VW specialist at £30 something an hour who knew their stuff.
25 July 2003, 12:47 PM
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Scott,
can't believe nobody's mentioned this yet, but where's the baby going to go? I too owned a Corrado several years ago (albeit a 16v), and I wouldn't fancy trying to get a baby seat in and out of the back. Can't honestly remember if the VR6s have a passenger airbag, if not the front seat is an option.
You'd be surprised how much crap you'll end up carting around.
Having said that a friend of mine's just had a baby and they've kept their megane coupe.
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Scott,
can't believe nobody's mentioned this yet, but where's the baby going to go? I too owned a Corrado several years ago (albeit a 16v), and I wouldn't fancy trying to get a baby seat in and out of the back. Can't honestly remember if the VR6s have a passenger airbag, if not the front seat is an option.
You'd be surprised how much crap you'll end up carting around.
Having said that a friend of mine's just had a baby and they've kept their megane coupe.
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25 July 2003, 12:54 PM
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Isn't 30mpg a bit optimistic?
Never got below low 20's apart from traffic jams/busy town traffic (if this is all you do then it's the wrong car! get a town runnabout) and on the motorways mid 30's was quite achievable.
25 July 2003, 01:07 PM
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Does anyone know why there is such a big performance difference between a Golf VR6 and the Corrado VR6. I thought they shared similiar engines etc and the Golf being smaller would be quicker but that is not the case. The Corrado is over a second quicker to 60.
25 July 2003, 01:56 PM
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The Corrado was a 2.9 and was geared for "proper diving", B roads et al. The Golf 2.8 was more set up for cruising on Mways. I've got a Corrado at the mo' and I can't see any probs with lugging all the "stuff" required for a sprog. I've taken fridge/freezers to the tip in mine (try that with a Fiat/Alfa coupe). I agree with the others, go for as low a mileage as u can find and try for a Storm (leather/AC), you should find some between 40-60k at around the £8k mark. If you do you'll be joining an exclusive little club full of proud and enthusiastic drivers, with a car which attracts a lot of respect from the better end of the driving community (most young d**kheads are too young to remember them).
Hope you find a good 'un.
Hope you find a good 'un.
25 July 2003, 02:07 PM
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Scott, a back bumper costs £500, not fitted! The door handles on mine broke 5 times and cost £75 a pop to be fixed, electric Recaros stopped working, sunroofs are notorious for breaking and the lights are the worst i've had. The car also ran much hotter than you would expect, I know a guy with a 40K mint Classic Green Storm and he has to keep the heater on permanantly. So make sure if you do test drive, that the oil temp (on the trip computer) does not go crazy when your stuck in traffic, check the coolant aswell for any signs of oil or a mayonaise looking substance, could spell trouble. Also check there is no blue smoke at full revs, get someone to rev it hard.
The windows also came off the runners a few times on mine, go along a cobbled street with the window partly down and make sure it does not rattle.
These are some of the bad points though, as the other guys said, if you can get a mint FSH and low miles then you should be fine. That's the reason I bought a brand new CTR, as servcing used to give me a heart attack.
I'm a big Corrado fan, but some owners just tell you all the good points, of which there are many. You will find a good one though, but you will need to search hard. Karman built the corrado, not VW, so the build quality is not as good as a golf m8.
A great drive though, and the VR6 has one of the best sounding engines this side of a TVR!
The windows also came off the runners a few times on mine, go along a cobbled street with the window partly down and make sure it does not rattle.
These are some of the bad points though, as the other guys said, if you can get a mint FSH and low miles then you should be fine. That's the reason I bought a brand new CTR, as servcing used to give me a heart attack.
I'm a big Corrado fan, but some owners just tell you all the good points, of which there are many. You will find a good one though, but you will need to search hard. Karman built the corrado, not VW, so the build quality is not as good as a golf m8.
A great drive though, and the VR6 has one of the best sounding engines this side of a TVR!
25 July 2003, 03:12 PM
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Noooooooooooooooooo.
Don't get the Golf. You started this thread with a view to buying one of the best fwd coupes ever made, and you've allowed yourself to be dilluted into buying just another boring hatchback. Get a Focus/Astra/306 or whatever and blend into the background in schoolrun shopping trolley blandwagon with stiff suspension and a bit of poke. Where's the style. C'mon.
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Don't get the Golf. You started this thread with a view to buying one of the best fwd coupes ever made, and you've allowed yourself to be dilluted into buying just another boring hatchback. Get a Focus/Astra/306 or whatever and blend into the background in schoolrun shopping trolley blandwagon with stiff suspension and a bit of poke. Where's the style. C'mon.
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25 July 2003, 03:33 PM
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If you do get a mint Corrado, you will be driving a much rarer and better looking machine. Get some Koni suspension with Eibach springs and you will also have amazing handling, not that the standard car was bad, just a bit soft IMO.
The VW Corrado Club of GB is also worth joining, really nice guys and excellent advice.
The VW Corrado Club of GB is also worth joining, really nice guys and excellent advice.
25 July 2003, 03:35 PM
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I was thinking of buying either a Golf or a Corrado.
I think the extra space in the golf would be good bearing in mind there is a child on the way.
What kind of milages will these do?
Well what other cars would you suggest?
Scott
I think the extra space in the golf would be good bearing in mind there is a child on the way.
What kind of milages will these do?
Well what other cars would you suggest?
Scott
25 July 2003, 03:37 PM
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I've got a Corrado at the mo' and I can't see any probs with lugging all the "stuff" required for a sprog.
Just IMHO of course.
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25 July 2003, 04:21 PM
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Evo has it as 6.2
Autocar at 6.4
heard 6.7 plastered about too.
Like I said b4, I got 30mpg over 2 years 'typical' driving. Not going mad all the time but not hanging about either.
Autocar at 6.4
heard 6.7 plastered about too.
Like I said b4, I got 30mpg over 2 years 'typical' driving. Not going mad all the time but not hanging about either.
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I think the corrado 0-60 is slightly misleading, as it manages 60 in 2nd gear. I'm sure the official figure was 7.2, although mags claim better.
You will also find there is almost as much room in your Clio Cup in the back seats m8.
You will also find there is almost as much room in your Clio Cup in the back seats m8.
25 July 2003, 06:32 PM
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Re both 0-60 figures on the golf and Corrado, have you ever seen people at Gti Internatinal 0-60 and 1/4mile with standard versions get anywhere near their quoted figures?... I didn't after watching many 100s attempt it over the last 5 years. I personally think the Corrado is closer to 7.1/15.5secs and the Golf 7.6/16secs.
Neither of them are hardly economical or cheap to run like Clio Cups and CTRs are. Having said that, they are solid cars that can handle mileage, and both have a good tuning following if you want to improve them.
I pesonally would look at a Fiat 20v Coupe Turbo with decent looks, performance, running costs and economy (37mpg touring!). A Decent boot BUT check to see if the rear is OK for a sprog. Or better still, the sprog in the front, and the Misses in the back.
Neither of them are hardly economical or cheap to run like Clio Cups and CTRs are. Having said that, they are solid cars that can handle mileage, and both have a good tuning following if you want to improve them.
I pesonally would look at a Fiat 20v Coupe Turbo with decent looks, performance, running costs and economy (37mpg touring!). A Decent boot BUT check to see if the rear is OK for a sprog. Or better still, the sprog in the front, and the Misses in the back.
25 July 2003, 07:08 PM
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Scott, it would appear that no one has noticed that you want the golf and not the corrado.
so: http://www.clubgti.com/classifieds.asp
I am now on my fourth golf, and replaced a corrado G60 to get it, a car I would recommend over the vr6 for performance everyday of the week. In standard form it is quicker at midrange acceleration than the vr6, more economical and lighter. ONce upgraded there is little chance of anything but a supercharged vr6 getting close.
Anyway, I wouldn't personally bother with the golf VR6 either, the gti has a lot more bottom end poke with 60bhp less, it does run out of puff at the top, but you will pay a lot less and the fuel consuption is far better.
As for practicality, there is no question that the corrado is not going to be comfortable everyday.
Consider a 5 door gti, 16v or vr6, and if you can find it, a tdi. If you can stretch its also worth looking at the 1.8 gti turbo mk 4.
so: http://www.clubgti.com/classifieds.asp
I am now on my fourth golf, and replaced a corrado G60 to get it, a car I would recommend over the vr6 for performance everyday of the week. In standard form it is quicker at midrange acceleration than the vr6, more economical and lighter. ONce upgraded there is little chance of anything but a supercharged vr6 getting close.
Anyway, I wouldn't personally bother with the golf VR6 either, the gti has a lot more bottom end poke with 60bhp less, it does run out of puff at the top, but you will pay a lot less and the fuel consuption is far better.
As for practicality, there is no question that the corrado is not going to be comfortable everyday.
Consider a 5 door gti, 16v or vr6, and if you can find it, a tdi. If you can stretch its also worth looking at the 1.8 gti turbo mk 4.
