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Old 19 July 2003, 09:20 PM
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for such a huge car, it dont half shift, Lotus at their best.
Anybody had the privilege of owning or driving 1?
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Old 19 July 2003, 09:23 PM
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marky-san's the man you want mate, he owned one of these monsters
Old 19 July 2003, 09:24 PM
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No, but my ma's other half wants one
Very hard to find a good one now too.
Must admit, i wouldnt mind a spin.
Did you get a go then?
Old 19 July 2003, 09:53 PM
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Nah m8 just dreaming, saw a nice 1 for sale.

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Old 20 July 2003, 11:38 PM
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yo yo..

i own one thank you very much...

and am involved with a business who specialise in restoring and making kits for them

so anything u wanna know just ask

and they really are as quick as their legend suggests
Old 20 July 2003, 11:47 PM
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Guy I get parts off has bought himseld one a few months ago, apparently its amazing
Old 20 July 2003, 11:50 PM
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Lets put it in perspective....

until a couple of years ago it was STILL the worlds fastest production saloon car....

and thats sayin somethin for a car which at the time was 10 years old...

its sayin somethin else that the audi rs6 is only just quicker than it now..so much for 10 years hard development eh

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Old 21 July 2003, 12:26 AM
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Si,

I don't care whaever you say, they were still built in LUTON
Old 21 July 2003, 12:29 AM
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Luton???

I think you are slightly confused my lad....

The donor gsi carltons (of which i am an owner by the way) are german..they were built in russelheim germany and shipped to the lotus factory at HETHEL!!

ahaha...so much for you tryin to be clever ed..lol
Old 21 July 2003, 12:31 AM
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and there was me thinking they were made on the Frontera line
Old 21 July 2003, 12:32 AM
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If a carlton was in any way like driving a pair of wet underpants in a washing machine ala frontera then i would agree..but they are not so nerrr.

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Old 21 July 2003, 12:35 AM
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Thats a pair of GREEN pants in a washing machine
Old 21 July 2003, 12:37 AM
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Was once having a go in a mate's E36 M3, in 3rd and ragging it. Not racing, just pushing his car to its limits (about to be traded in so he didn't care). Was touching 90 and climbind rapidly, and this fooking great big, ugly saloon came wanging past like I was feathering the throttle.

A Lotus Carlton.

I tried to catch up but decided 140mph was plenty and didn't bother.

1st and last time of seeing one.
Old 21 July 2003, 01:42 AM
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Big and ugly???

i am glad he wasted you
Old 21 July 2003, 01:51 AM
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My dad's best mate had a LC 'til recently, he put his foot down from 30mph to 90mph ( in a 30 limit :rolleyes ) and the acceleration was immense. Stopped pretty well too

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Old 21 July 2003, 01:55 AM
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They are big and ugly!

But that's surely part of the attraction?

It wasted the M3 good and proper, as it should have anyway!

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Old 21 July 2003, 11:44 AM
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I'd have one...

Old 21 July 2003, 11:45 AM
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we'll have to agree to disagree...

i suppose beauty really is in the eye of the beholder...

i would have said majestic, powerful and brutish..lol..but if we all thought the same things life would be very boring and there would be no point posting here at all..lol
Old 21 July 2003, 03:32 PM
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how much is a good example of a Lotus Carlton going for these days Bader23
Old 21 July 2003, 04:26 PM
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Theres one for sale in last weeks Autocar, 1992, one owner from new, 26K miles, 23 grand.

Mind you, you can get a good car for that sort of price
Old 21 July 2003, 04:27 PM
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and how cheap are replicas
Not being cheeky, I just know I wont be able to afford a real one!
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Old 21 July 2003, 06:15 PM
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ok...shabby LC's (anything up to 80k miles is ok..remember its proper servicing that counts) normally the older ones or hard used ones fetch between 9 and 12k ....this is normally because the owners cant afford to put right the problems and they are all in need of bodywork repairs if they havent had treatment.budget between 5 to 7k (maybe more maybe less) depending on bodywork repairs required or maybe some mechanical parts cos at this price its guaranteed they'll need it...

for a very good example depending on age (and remember rhd cars being rarer fetch a premium) you can expect to see from 15 to 16k for an average car up to 23 to 25k for a concourse condition car. these prices are merely guides.

best advice would be to buy a concourse car for higher money...remember you get what you pay for in life....unless you have the patience to spend the proper money putting a shabby car right.

What we do is restore cars. i.e. full respray..new leather..service all mechanicals..brand spankin new fibre glass bodykit....a properly restored car should fetch 20 to 25k all day cos all the preservation work has been done.

as for replicas.... it depends on who has done the replica and what kit was used...almost all replica kits are sub quality and wrong..... i'll give you some examples...a well looked after gsi lotus replica (you may aswell atleast go for the 3 litre carlton to make a replica) will be between 2 to 8 or maybe even 9 grand if you can find one...

tyo actually convert a carlton gsi to a lotus carlton reps..which would include..18 inch azevs..full genuine lc bodykit...respray in imperial green..fitting of all decals.....leather retrim...and exhaust...comes to about 9 grand for a conversion..obviously u dont have to have everything....we have even done one in red .

well thats a guide for you..in other words not cheap..and i havent even got going on other costs such as insurance or repairs... but you have to bear in mind lc's are proper supercars and hence need supercar attention with supercar costs...when you compare them to a ferrari or a porsche they are more than reasonable as long as you can give them the tlc required

and nothing gives you the same thrill..just to put this beast into context...whereas alot of modern cars and supersaloons (see audi rs6) are slightly quicker (and only just) the LC doesnt have 4wd..or traction control..or any other driver aids...actually all it has on its rear wheel drive is a lsd ..abs..and pas....thats it...so its a raw driving experience

right i have babbled enuff..lol
Old 21 July 2003, 06:15 PM
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There's 1 for sale on warrender.co.uk, '91 H 71,000miles £15995
Old 21 July 2003, 06:16 PM
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I think they have had that for quite a while ...if only i had the money..i'll have to sell mine first

i have an h plate with the same miles on the clock currently having a full restoration job ...can you say look brand new
Old 21 July 2003, 06:27 PM
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the 1 for sale is rhd too? which means what bader23? lol
Old 21 July 2003, 06:29 PM
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LOL!!

RHD houdln't really make a difference other than that there were less of them made and its called carlton as opposed to omega.... its the same car other than they have slightly different heat shield set up in the engine bay.

rhd fetch more here for obvious reasons.!!!!! they only made 248 of them...if i have the exact figure wrong dont have a go..LOL
Old 21 July 2003, 06:34 PM
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cheers m8, i got no reason to disbelieve u lol, u certainly know what ur talking about
Old 21 July 2003, 06:35 PM
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I would like to think so and its no problem..i love chattin about LC's to anybody....


Old 21 July 2003, 06:42 PM
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do u just use it on weekends? and is ur business just restoring LC's or do u do other motors too?
Old 21 July 2003, 06:47 PM
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hehe..
its currently on axle stands awaiting painting...

unfortunately being that i am 24 and skint i wont be keeping it..when its finished its going up for sale.... i will get one for keeps but i'm lookin abit down the line before i can afford to keep one full time.and it will be for evenings and weekends when i do.

yes our business is bodykits and paintowrk... at the moment obviously our core is lotus carltons..but we do some corsa stuff and alot of mr2 stuff...we are looking to expand into other stuff especially german stuff and jap import....i saw a lovely bumper for the new sti on a japanese import car...but its all about money to get the kits from japan....

but we can work on anything...my m8 who does the bodywork i am quite sure is the best in the country...and hes a wiz with fibreglass

hoping to get going properly full on at some point but not for a while yet.

i'll let u know when our website is up


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