Andy McCord

Ok, im trying to fathom out how porsche get there model nos, ok understand bm's 530 5 series 3ltr engine, how the hell do porsche work theres out, ive seen 911 (996) what the hell is this all about, someone please unravel this b4 my brain melts

IN THE STICKS

From what I can remember the 996 bit refers to a 911 but built after 1996 as this was the year they changed the shape , so a 993 is a 911 but the body shape that came out in 1993 .
Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong
dave

Andy McCord

Thanks dave that sounds feasible, but other models are even more weird, i thought a 924=4 cylinder & a 928=8 cylinder, your explanation for the 911 range sounds good to me but the 92 series? god knows

davyboy

I have a 951, although as its a RHD strictly speaking it's a 952.

Dracoro

so they're gonna run out of 9nn codes soon then!

what happens then?

tiggers

And BM's aren't as simple as it may seem as I think some 316's (maybe all) had 1.8 engines and some 523's had 2.5 engines.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong as BM's aren't my specialist subject (Thank God!!!)

Regards,

tiggers.

MarkCSC

They call them gay names like Cayenne

Andy McCord

mark cheers mate but its still as complicated as dog sh*t in a blender, was i not right with ref to the amount of cylinders on a 924 & 928 or is that coincidental?

MarkCSC

Either a coincidence or they choose those numbers because they matched the cylinders. Don't know really.

Dracoro

Checked up on this. The numbers are design sequence numbers and have nothing to do with engine size or year built/designed.

986 - boxster
993 - 911 (coincidental that was designed in 1993)
994 - 911 turbo iirc
996 - 911 (boxster style lights)

Not sure about Cayenne, it's probably a 998????

Still don't know what happens after 999

mik

and before the 911 (993) there was the 911 (964), and before that the 911 (952).

No idea what the codes are about!

davyboy

No, my cars a 951/952

MarkCSC

Before the 964 there was only the 911. Different versions had different numbers e.g. the turbo was the 930 but they were still referred to as 911's. This includes the SC etc.
The 964 was the first model range to be referred to by their design designation but they were still 911's. The same was true of the 993 and the current 996.
Confusing as hell I know

A good history of the 911 can be found at http://www.idee.demon.nl/

RB5#295

Confusion reigns!

Mark & Dracoro are right - they're internal model numbers from the development stage. Even the 964 etc. weren't officially anything other than 911's when they came to market, in the same way as BM's are E30 or E36 etc. - anoraks know what they're talking about by using the non-911 designation.

What's to stop them going on over 1000 with the numbers? It looks like any new ranges will have names when they hit the showroom from now on based on the example of the Boxster and Cayenne models, but internally they can be 1012 or whatever. Even the 996 is still sold as the 911, because of the heritage of the name presumably.

Fen

MarkCSC

All Porsche models after the 356 have had a 9** format. The first one was called the 901 but Peugeot had a copyright on all car names made up of three didgits with a 0 in the middle. So Porsche called their car the 911.

After that it just went sequentially. 912 up to 996. Some cars where variations of other models eg 930 is a 911 turbo, the 931 is a 924 turbo. 917 was a racing car same for 956 and 962.

There are a few numbers missing but most are different variation on a model (turbo, LHD or RHD), race cars or prototypes that never made production

Hope this helps.

Mark

[Edited by Mark Champion - 7/9/2003 2:49:58 PM]