camk

yes you'd get them in the twisties no probs 450BHP(unmodified) FFS

[Edited by camk - 7/4/2003 2:38:59 PM]

tiggers

Surely the 'ultimnate driving machine' was not humbled by a mere Audi - must be some mistake.

DISCLAIMER: Just having a bit of fun before you M3 fans all start on me again.

Regards,

tiggers.

[Edited by tiggers - 7/4/2003 2:47:13 PM]

Nick_TypeUK

Nice txs, My RS4 had a kerb weight of 1680kgs according to the copy of the log book i have

996 turbo stats- hehe beat me 2 it, EVO VII?

so a P1 is close enough then, 20bhp difference is hardly god like, but the 562kgs lighter it is will make a big difference on cornering

[Edited by Nick_TypeUK - 7/4/2003 5:35:02 PM]

Nick_TypeUK

anyway as i was saying i would expect the RS's to be fast in a straight line but you would make it up on the corners

i got a great vid of me in the RS4 playing with a yellow exige at coombe, he was killing me on the tight twisty stuff but i passed him back on the long straight and fast corner every time as i was doing over 160, great fun.

[Edited by Nick_TypeUK - 7/4/2003 5:51:54 PM]

camk

if only PPP got you 26 BHP/Tonne and 153 lb/ft Torque increase

[Edited by camk - 7/4/2003 9:11:39 PM]

Christ

"Straight line from 30 RS4 Will Leave a Scoob.."
Wet & Twisties the RS4 would still leave a Scoob..

Sorry to state the obvious..



[Edited by Christ - 7/5/2003 4:44:32 PM]

moses

and yeah it did kill it

it had 550 bhp and 440 torque and it was sold at the end for more money to roy keane and was the only second rs6 with the audi chip for 2500 k after the audi boss in the uk

and forgot , his 996 turbo was modded too and it wasnt standard and the rs6 was alot faster in a straight line and only failed in the bends but his evo 7 was faster than his 996 turbo in all areas

[Edited by moses - 7/5/2003 9:52:36 PM]

GTI

rite now scoobs are v. nice but simple maths:

1 STI = 265 bhp
1 RS6 = 450 bhp

now I'm no good at maths but 450 - 265 = 185 bhp difference and thats a STI not a WRX so slightly faster there! lol
So basically ur little scoobie doo's will get left for dust!

Mr Maths Teacher lol

Some people really need to get over that fact! Sorry but its true!

[Edited by GTI - 7/5/2003 10:06:24 PM]

GTI

Anyway who cares the both fast as ****, just do it different ways - but the smile you must get when you burn past M3's etc on motorways in the avant version with winnie the pooh sun shades

[Edited by GTI - 7/5/2003 11:11:16 PM]

CarpetCleaner

Had a burn off the lights against an RS6 Avant.

**** me they are quick, I had to give up and an E36 M3 is not slow

medders

Aren't they like a million bhp 4wd ?
The only thing that will touch them is a lightly modded soarer

CarpetCleaner

450BHP auto so no fluffing the gearchange, 4WD so good off the line

I'd guess they'd murder a Scooby, In evo they have one modded to 550bhp now that will be seriously quick

medders

IIRC the mods were well expensive as well !
My Audi's going into the garage soon. I'm going to try and blag a drive if i can.

Paul

Nick_TypeUK

Very fast in a straight line but theres only about 0.2sec difference between the RS4 and RS6 on the 0-125mph dash as the RS6 is so heavy. Just find some braking zones and corners and you will have no problems from them.

Nick_TypeUK

Power has nothing to do with cornering ability, weighing the best part of 2 tonnes as the RS6 fueled and 2 up does would have alot to do with it, also having a large heavy engine high up and infront of the driving axel and a 4wd system that uses the ABS system to simulate axel diffs all help the uber barge undesteer nicely.

medders

Oi - The RS6 is NOT the uber barge. My S8 is

image doctor

Impreza would 'ave an RS2/4/6 any day!

the chosen one

what the hell is up with people on this forum and soarers?

Nick_TypeUK

I had a black S8 for a few days on one of my RS4s many trips to the repair man. Made me feal like a drug dealer, i got some very very funny looks from the locals as i drove around hackney in my Audi baseball hat and a black T shirt. i liked it alot as a fast comfy cruiser (especially the his and hers arm rests)

CarpetCleaner

he was way too quick for me to try anything under braking, he was gone

I thought my M3 was supposed to be quick?

Jeff Wiltshire

CC....4WD & 450BHP + loads of Torque.....you never stood a chance !

Image doctor....I think you've been dreaming again....all of these have significantly more power in standard form than an STi Impreza.....

image doctor

Jeff - I forget the winkie smiley!

Even though Impreza's often have more than 100 bhp less than some cars, they are still quicker?

I can't believe an educated guy like you did not know that.

Nick_TypeUK

RS4 is only about 225bhp tonne and the RS6 not alot more so its not hard for a scooby or evo to match them

However the Audis are also easy to chip and often are. RS6 can easily have 520bhp+

CarpetCleaner

my M3 is 217/tonne not much difference on paper but on the road it was massive

those RS Audis are serious tools. I am sorry but a 22B was beaten on a Clarkson vid by a M Coupe. An RS6 would annihilate ANY scoob , it simple fact

Nick_TypeUK

the other thing to rememeber they have insane torque over a massive amount of the rev range so there alot more flexable to drive.

My RS4 was 420bhp and faster than a stock RS6, my none PPP STi7 would leave it for dead on a track.

camk

LOL, its clear the Audi does not corner as well as a Scooby on the Internet Superhighway

CarpetCleaner

makes me laugh how just cause a car is a scoob it can defy the law of physics

the fookin RS6 has 450BHP!!!! this one may have been chipped for all I know

I can say I felt like I was going backwards when he disapperd up the road

Nick_TypeUK

i have some fantastic incar vids of my RS4 understeering like a pig on track as various EVOs and 911s wiz past it (and me ).

hmmm CC doesnt seam to good in the maths department

Audi RS6 450 (bhp) / 2 (tonnes) = 225 bhp per tonne

a 1.2 tonne scooby (older model) therefore only needs 270bhp to match the RS6's power to weight ratio.


Jesus what would you guys do if you came accross a car that was actually fast like my m8s (ex) Evo Extreme RS450 which was 450bhp and weighed way under 1400kgs?



[Edited by Nick_TypeUK - 7/4/2003 5:14:23 PM]

camk

Nick,
Check your numbers there is not a 0.8 tonne difference between a scoob and a RS6. Its only 455kg between WRX wagon and RS6 Avant. RS6 Saloon and Avant are 1860 and 1810 KG's respectively. Subaru says Sti WRX is 1470kg.

Regards
Camk

[Edited by camk - 7/4/2003 5:07:30 PM]

[Edited by camk - 7/4/2003 5:12:52 PM]

Nick_TypeUK

with a tank of fuel and and 2 ppl (or 1 me) an RS6 would weigh 2 tonne, yep modern Scoobys are very heavy but have better crash protection, older models are much much lighter so they would have no trouble getting 225bhp per tonne +

just for the record i dont consider my STi that great (it is pretty good), the EVO VII and VIII are much much faster cars but the scoobys far easier to live with on bumby roads.

Oh and over 120 in a straight line the Audi would vansih into the distance (they are after all made to storm autobahns not race tracks)