Tiggs

having tested an evoVII i have realised that after the TVR nothing is going to FEEL very quick, so i will settle for quite quick and comfy instead of very quick and plastic/cheap (evo)

so whats the feeling out of stuff like:

BMW 330
S4
S type 4 V8

do these feel nippy?

Johnny50

I'd go for the S4 out of that lot.

But the downside is...they're all pretty conservative..albeit fast, but very smooth delivery, so the impression of speed is small.

Falski

BMW M5 - Class
Mercedes E55 AMG
Mercedes C36 AMG
Mercedes C43 AMG

I now what your thinking not a boring old merc, but seriously if I was you try a AMG you'll be surprised.

Old_Fart

We had a standard S4 Avant and it never felt 'nippy', did pull well on the motorway though. Didn;t like lack of communication from brakes and steering, cack gearchange (quickshift modded within a week though)nor the standard leather seats which wern't very supportive at all.
Chuckles
Edit - mine was a my99, new one is bound to be better as I found the My02 S3 was a big step forward in driver dynamics, new S4 must be better again! Hopefuly

[Edited by Old_Fart - 6/27/2003 3:45:39 PM]

Dapster

Cayenne Turbo - looks like a barn but accelerates quicker than a Boxster S and Evo mag got it around a track faster than an M3....

Went to Oulton Pk last week and the instructor said he'd had a go in an E55 AMG Merc and it was the fastest thing he'd been in without stickers on the door! He said he spent the entire lap with the trac control off while looking out of the side window. Fine if you're not paying for the tyres!

MattOz

My M5.

Fast, Comfy and Communicative. Recently regained top spot in Evo magazines "The Knowledge", as best big saloon car. Has better bite and turn in than Evo7 or 8 according to a number of journos. Handles beautifully for a car weighing 1800kg!

It's the best car I've ever owned. Just wsh it did more mpg! LOL

Matt

Nick_TypeUK

Interesting about the TVRs since i have never seen one on track that could go round corners fast, look and sound awesome and go in a straight line.

M5s are an amazing piece of engineering probably the best car BMW has ever made when you take into acount its size and weight.

Outgoing S4 is the worst car i have ever purchased, wanted to hand it back instantly, a ream of mods just about made it drivable, the RS4 wasnt alot better.

If you want the explosive aceleration feal try cars that dont have alot of body work or any accoustic deadening, VX220 turbo should be interesting. Sub 5 sec 60 in an ironing board.

evoviifan

fast and comfy????

a sofa falling off a cliff

evoviifan

seriously...my mate has a BMW 330 sport and it feels dog slow when compared to my evo...The BMW wins hands down in terms of interior quality, spec,mpg,service interval,etc,etc....but performance was pants i thought.

worley

I've just been driving a 330i sport touring - It was quite quick, but the handling in the wet was superb...switch the traction control off and it becomes quite entertaining.

Admit it's not a quick as the M3 , but you can fit a dog in the back.

vindaloo

Definitely going to get roasted here......

Aren't Audi TT's relatively quick and comfy?

What about a Jaguar X or S type?

How many people have to be comfy?

black knight

holden type R. very comfy deffo fast.

FASTER MIKE!!

Bentley cont turbo? second hand of course

Rich and Mini

E39 M5, or if that's a little too expensive, an E39 540 ain't bad either.

Rich

Mycroft

My car swats TVRs' with no problem... but it doesn't feel fast... just smooth and quiet... so if thats what you want spend £10k to £12k and get 190mph, sub 5s' 12+ quarters... yet drive around in quiet comfort then nothing comes close... I am building the 3rd such car for a friend and if you want to know how to do it then later this year there will be a big piece on the TIF with all the instructions on how... but they are discrete and not at all showy... they cost less to run than a Scoob and are the most reliable superfast car I know of...

Many Humbug Returns

Mycroft:

no one is listening.....and it's not even funny any more.

carl

Tiggs -- are you and Mycroft one and the same? Is Mycroft STi Go Fast no 2?

Tiggs

lol- no, you can spot the difference as sti go fast is funny and knows it

Mycroft

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Mycroft:

no one is listening.....and it's not even funny any more.
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Except you all are... that is what is really funny... you are a true 'captive' audience... I love irony, don't you... hahaha

M3 Evo

Gotta be an E39 V8 M5

Best car i have ever owned too!

Another to look at would be AMG C43, very nice and discreet.

[Edited by M3 Evo - 6/28/2003 11:27:25 PM]

47 NAT

The bird at 19 Sorry couldn't resist that I'll get my coat...

On a serious note I'd say either a nice AMG Merc or M5. Both spacious and comfy, with all the creature comforts of an executive lounge.

Nath

PS: Or something that corners well

[Edited by 47 NAT - 6/29/2003 12:31:26 PM]

barge

Mycraft

your numbers dont add up.

190mph, sub 5s' 12+ quarters

dont be a muppett, you have a super car top speed, but dont have the acceleration [sp]

what is fast & comfy depends who is doing the judging & your budget

agree with the BMW 540I, serious bit of car, Holden as already mentioned held a M5 for most of the back to back testing & has a great Chevy V8 but I am biased towards the GM V8


try a GMC lightening [yes the pickup truck] it will waste a lot of cars, including scoobys

before you ask no that wont be my next car, divorce pending it will be Harley Davidson F150 pickup

Mycroft

190 + 5 + 12 =207... so not only do they add up for simpletons... [} but they 'add-up' on my car... by the way Bodge, my names MYCROFT... don't abuse it or wear it out please.

barge

2 + 0 + 7 = 9 your mental age ?

stop being an idiot

call me bodge if you like, I have been called a lot lot worse

where is your evidence of these numbers ?

I would like to see them, proper evidence not just you typing them in, scan in some timeing slips, some rolling road graphs, show me some evidence.

otherwise I am not interested

put up or shut up

jasabz

Tiggs,
sorry to sound like a stuck record but the Lotus Carlton would be a perfect option. Forget what you hear about age, this is still the fastest production saloon out there by far!!!
They took the latest M5 and an old lotus onto an autobhan last year. The reason being that they reckoned the new M5 would leave the lotus standing but the lotus would have it at top end so a few miles was decided as a fair test.
Results......after quarter of a mile the old Lotus had pulled out so much on the M5 that the test / race was never repeated or completed!!!
Repairs and servicing is expensive so make sure you get a good one. If you do find one let me know as a chap in the UK has kept records on evey UK car ever sold , so should be able to tell you a little about its history and treatment,

jas

jasabz

PS Tiggs,
still rate this car higher than my skyline which is saying an awful lot!!! Plus a simple and inexpensive "chip" and a removal of cats , gives 510bhp...honest!!

jas

Mycroft

But they don't add up... you have said so, so that is it isn't it?

Surely I can produce nothing to sway such a catagoric re-buttal based on... based on what exactly?

barge

so you have admitted your number dont add up fine.

but you are not shutting up or producing the evidence

all you have to do is prove it with evidence or just shut up about it, its not hard

Mycroft

... based on???

Tiggs

take it elsewhere morons