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Old 14 March 2003, 12:35 PM
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Hi peeps,

just a quick question... does anyone know how many 93-L reg Sierra Sapphire Cosworth's were produced??? also how many in RED?? (not burgundy/magenta..... just plain shiny red...same as escort cossy red)

I know Junction 28 has a pure red one but theirs is on a G plate... just wondered how rare an L reg one was???

any1 ever had/seen one around?

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Old 14 March 2003, 12:44 PM
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None I think, I've never seen one anyway...

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Old 14 March 2003, 12:58 PM
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RAF

There are a handful of L reg ones about but not many. What do you mean by pure red on the G plate? They never made a base colour red saphire cossie that I know of only magenta

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Old 14 March 2003, 01:13 PM
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never seen one like this before


they say on the site "one of only four made by ford"

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Old 14 March 2003, 01:15 PM
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Have only ever seen one about (not sure what reg. It could be the same one as I only live about 1.5 miles from J28.

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Old 14 March 2003, 01:23 PM
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I like that
Old 14 March 2003, 01:43 PM
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Hi Raf....where abouts in Bradford you from?you got a scooby? ( dont worry I aint a car thief!)

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Old 14 March 2003, 08:41 PM
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mark - thanks for the pic... clears up pauls question

Turboman I live in BD9 about 2 mins from BRI.....
oh and i'm scoobyless at the mo where u from????

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Old 14 March 2003, 08:48 PM
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They did do a plain red one but not many....not sure how many where produced
Old 14 March 2003, 09:16 PM
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i thought all cossies were two door? obviously wrong i guess, 2door saphire looks the best imho
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all 2 doors? - you're joking surely?

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Old 14 March 2003, 11:27 PM
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Ford never made a 2 door sapphire!
Old 14 March 2003, 11:34 PM
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junction28 cars is dodgy IMO...!!

I bought a celica GT-Four from them, and after 2 days and only 30miles the water pump went and while my local garage where fixing the pump they discovered a crack in the engine block...!!! they would not take the car back or fix it..! Even though my dad is a soliciter he just said take me to court knowing full well i would not want to do it as i would not have a car for how ever many months it would take to get to court...!!

beware..!

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Seem to remember that bright red was a "special order" colour from Ford, and very few were made. In the same way that a very small handful of 2.8 Capri's were automatic.

Cross check the chassis number and the VIN plate: this should tell you the original colour.

As for Junction 28, can't comment. A good bud of mine once bought an Escort Cossie from them, an as new 2k miler. (for 31k!!) No problems, but then you wouldn't expect any would you?
Old 15 March 2003, 09:34 AM
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Raf...I live not too far from you....Shipley......used to be a scooby owner,...now driving an m3 evo...
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Olly - "cross check the chassis/vin should tell u the colour" How do you identify the colour this way???


Raf.
Old 15 March 2003, 01:51 PM
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There's a VIN decoder on http://www.fordeurope.net but they dont have the colour codes for the Sierra, only the newer cars
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they did saphire RS was 2 door, thats what i assumed the saph cossie was as well, not into fords so excuse my cossie ignorance, but 2 door saphire RS is fact as my neighbours had one for about six years, i saw it daily
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Ask about the JUNK....SION 24
on the RSOC ..... Ive never heard a good word for them !
Old 15 March 2003, 02:18 PM
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oppppsssss... 4 junctions short !!!
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All German built Sierras had the factory colour (by name) & the chassis no stamped onto an ally plate which was riveted to the front cross panel over the n/s headlamp prior to painting. This plate should look undisturbed & have 'Rosso Red' stamped on it, along with the same chassis no as is under the cover between the drivers seat & the sill.

As with all Cossies, you must check the floor around the chassis no for signs of welding
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they did saphire RS was 2 door, thats what i assumed the saph cossie was as well, not into fords so excuse my cossie ignorance, but 2 door saphire RS is fact as my neighbours had one for about six years, i saw it daily
FORD never made a 2 door.....other people have made a 2 door but not FORD!!
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The only 2 door saloons Ford were making at that time were Orions, and AFAIK they were only development prototypes, none were ever sold.
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i read somewhere that there were 6 red cossie sapphires that were built
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I was under the the impression the last 25 were red? I've seen a couple in classifieds and they've been on K plates. Confusing that that one is on a G...?
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Midmotorsteve,

What on earth are you talking about . Quote "not into Ford's so excuse my ignorance". Clearly !

No such thing as a 2-door "Sapphire RS" ever existed from the factory. Obviously, 2-door (or 3-door as they are more commonly known) Sierra RS Cosworths existed, approximately 5000 or so between 1986/1987 and 500 ish RS500's 1987/1988. Completely different car to the one you discuss. The Sapphire by Ford's own definition was a 4-door variant. In short and not trying to be harsh, you are talking nonsense in the extreme. Whatever your neighbour had, I assure you that it was not a factory 2-door Sapphire which is a complete contradiction in terms. What you were looking at "daily for six years" sure baffles me.

Regards, Meridian



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Meridian,

Man of truth...

I agree
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